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[surv2syn]

That's his one big issue.

Bradley has had the right fights as I have stated before. A good fight would be him and Berto. Berto could really damage Bradley, but at the same time....Bradley could totally outwork Berto. Dont count on that fight happening. Not enough money for the risk for 2 black fighters who are not really knock out punchers.

 

[surv2syn]

Matthysse would've laid his ass out, no doubt in my mind.......

I have a question though, why doesn't Timmy move back down to 140, he was a lot more effective down there. The higher in weight you go, the harder it is to mask skill deficiencies you may have...you'll be exposed to more danger than need be

They MUST be making JMM-Bradley at Welterweight cause no way should he have went back to 147. Also explains why he turned down Peterson at 140 and went with another 140lb fighter to return against, just at a higher weight.

yes, Matthysse wouldve laid him out. the reason why Bradley doesnt go back down is because there arent any matches that can be made for the money he is getting at WW that would be any easier than Ruslan. when I say cant be made, people will say...well what about Khan, and blah....its a lot of red tape involving promoters and managers. its not that easy.

edit: another reason is, although WW have more power, if Bradley is accustomed to 147....which by looking at his body you can see he is....if he goes back to 140, he will feel those shots much more. I could see a guy like Matthysse stopping him at 140, but stopping Bradley at 147 would be a tall task for anyone.

 

[TheNig]

I could actually see Maidana beating him. He's a worker and takes punches well.

 

[123456789]

Anybody got a link to Bradley-Provodnikov?


The link at boxtube and sweetboxing's twitter stop @ the 4 minute mark

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Bradley has had the right fights as I have stated before. A good fight would be him and Berto. Berto could really damage Bradley, but at the same time....Bradley could totally outwork Berto. Dont count on that fight happening. Not enough money for the risk for 2 black fighters who are not really knock out punchers.

You talking like Bradley is some protected fighter when you say "right fights"

His resume includes

Peterson
Alexander
Abregu
****

Thats pretty damm good if you ask me....yea he ducked khan to get that pac fight but who wouldn't??

 

[surv2syn]

Considering that both Roger and Floyd Jr in recent times both publicly stated that it was Jr's toughest bout to date......we should all be inclined to believe it

I agree with what you're saying though I have a request; define your difference between a threat and a test.

Emanuel Augustus' middle name should be "TEST". he has presented tough fights for a lot of fighters. He is more of a test type of fighter....but hardly any of the fighters he faced that he was supposed to provide a test to...he was hardly a threat to beat them.

Paulie is a test for Broner. He is a crafty veteran fighter who has been in big fights with great fighters. He is a bigger guy and Broner's first fight at WW. He will show Broner some looks he hasnt seen before. All that being said...Paulie is not much of a threat to beat Broner though.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

We finally got a weekend with some competitive entertaining action fights.

I feel Jessie Vargas should have loss, but a draw would have been cool. Neither guy really put their stamp on the fight, but Wale seemed to have more effect with his shots and did more to me but...

Ruslan was giving Bradley that work though

Bradley pulled it out by the skin of his teeth. That's the best I seen his offense ever look. Dude was landing some crazy ass combinations. This was a real good fight. If Ruslan was just a lil more seasoned he would have won and the Ref fukked him out of that early knockdown call to. Hopefully he learns and improves from the experience.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

You talking like Bradley is some protected fighter when you say "right fights"

His resume includes

Peterson
Alexander
Abregu
****

Thats pretty damm good if you ask me....yea he ducked khan to get that pac fight but who wouldn't??

It is pretty damn good and it's not like Provo was an easy fight to...

Stylistically that was a bad matchup for Timmy and you also have to factor in he was out of the ring for 9 months...Provo is a tough dude to take on for a comeback fight...

 

[surv2syn]

You talking like Bradley is some protected fighter when you say "right fights"

His resume includes

Peterson
Alexander
Abregu
****

Thats pretty damm good if you ask me....yea he ducked khan to get that pac fight but who wouldn't??

man....I dont know what I have to do to prove to you guys...all of these dudes are protected. Bradley didnt fight anybody before he fought Witter. Of course once he starts making 7 figure paydays he will fight good opposition...but he has had the right fights. Its not like he was gonna fight Berto, which Berto wouldve loved....but it wouldnt have made sense for the Bradley camp.

Alexander's resume is more impressive.

Alexander pre-title:
Callist
Corley

Bradley pre-title:
Miguel Vasquez?

Alexander post-title:
Bailey
Maidana
Matthysse
Kotelnik
Urango
(and if he fights Brook, thats a much better resume reference than Provodnikov)

Bradley post-title:
Cherry
****
Campbell (severely shot)
Peterson
Abregu
Casamayor (severely shot)
Pacquiao
Provodnikov

take Pacquiao out and there is no question Alexander has had the better resume

the difference.....promoters. GSP got Bradley in good position then he went to TR because Pac needed an opponent. Had Alexander been with TR he couldve gotten that fight.

 

[surv2syn]

another thing....a guy like Randall Bailey would be a dangerous fight for Bradley due to the styles. If Bradley was taking those shots last night from Bailey....well....if he takes one of those shots directly from Bailey, he may not recover.

 

[surv2syn]

It is pretty damn good and it's not like Provo was an easy fight to...

Stylistically that was a bad matchup for Timmy and you also have to factor in he was out of the ring for 9 months...Provo is a tough dude to take on for a comeback fight...

that fight wasnt difficult for Bradley! he made the shyt more difficult than it had to be by trying to prove he is something that he is not...and thats a banger. he listened to the critics!

Bradley shouldve worried about winning ugly than damn near losing pretty.
Not saying Alexander will beat Brook, but Brook is better than Provodnikov.

 

[surv2syn]

it was a wise move for Bradley to avoid Khan because he was being mentioned as a Pac opponent. I dont argue that....but dont go telling me Bradley cleaned out the division...he didnt. Everyone is protected. Broner, Khan, Alexander, FMJ, everyone. No manager and promoter goes out and says lets find the toughest guy and fight him. No. The objective is to get as many high profile fights as you can get and hope it increases your marketability. Bradley is pissed because the Pac fight hasnt made him into a superstar. He shouldnt be worried about that, only winning his every fight. Top Rank never intended for him to be a star, only Pac-Man fodder. Remember how they did Raheem after he beat Morales??? Same thing they did to Bradley. Just because you beat Tiger Woods doesnt make you Tiger Woods!

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

man....I dont know what I have to do to prove to you guys...all of these dudes are protected. Bradley didnt fight anybody before he fought Witter. Of course once he starts making 7 figure paydays he will fight good opposition...but he has had the right fights. Its not like he was gonna fight Berto, which Berto wouldve loved....but it wouldnt have made sense for the Bradley camp.

Alexander's resume is more impressive.

Alexander pre-title:
Callist
Corley

Bradley pre-title:
Miguel Vasquez?

Alexander post-title:
Bailey
Maidana
Matthysse
Kotelnik
Urango
(and if he fights Brook, thats a much better resume reference than Provodnikov)

Bradley post-title:
Cherry
****
Campbell (severely shot)
Peterson
Abregu
Casamayor (severely shot)
Pacquiao
Provodnikov

take Pacquiao out and there is no question Alexander has had the better resume

the difference.....promoters. GSP got Bradley in good position then he went to TR because Pac needed an opponent. Had Alexander been with TR he couldve gotten that fight.

Errybody is protected when they are prospects....who gives af bout who they fought 6 yrs ago at an indian casino on some thurday night undercard

You must be a Alexander fan N Bailey fukking sucks stop it

Bradley isnt all that, he got no power but hes taken on N won tough fights

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

that fight wasnt difficult for Bradley! he made the shyt more difficult than it had to be by trying to prove he is something that he is not...and thats a banger. he listened to the critics!

Bradley shouldve worried about winning ugly than damn near losing pretty.
Not saying Alexander will beat Brook, but Brook is better than Provodnikov.

He did win ugly...

I don't know who you think Timmy is bruh...Timmy ain't known for his skill and boxing IQ, he don't box around nikkas...He's an annoying little headbutting smotherer with an iron chin and heart...

Everybody knows Timmy likes to bang on the inside and has no power hence why a tough as nails pressure heavy handed Russian was a bad fukking style matchup for him...Not many dudes out there come off a 9 month layoff fighting a dude like that...

 

[surv2syn]

Errybody is protected when they are prospects....who gives af bout who they fought 6 yrs ago at an indian casino on some thurday night undercard

You must be a Alexander fan N Bailey fukking sucks stop it

Bradley isnt all that, he got no power but hes taken on N won tough fights

I like Alexander. Bradley beat him though. My point is that Bradley is not on a higher tier than Alexander...he just was able to get a fight with Pacquiao. Bailey sucks? Yeah, if thats the case then Provodnikov really sucks. Bailey will probably be more successful than Prov will ever be. 2 division titlist is nothing to sneeze at. He is one dimensional but styles make fights. All I am saying is, because of the style, dont count on seeing Bradley against fighters like Bailey. Bailey wouldve killed Bradley if Bradley wouldve been stupid enough to trade with him.

Who cares about who someone fought 6 years ago? Just proving a point. You act like Bradley is fighting the top fighters...he is not. Not consistently...but no one is. Berto has made millions fighting guys coming up from lower weights and such...as soon as Collazo gave him life or death...u think Berto's people wanted a rematch? when a potential big money fight was out there?