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[YourMajesty]

So Showtime hired Ross Greenburg from HBO for the Floyd fight

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

who

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Dont go by who is shouting the loudest...go by the contracts signed. Bradley turned down a fight with Khan, hence GSP suing him. Bradley is guilty of ducking too. It wasnt a guarantee that he wouldve gotten Pacquiao...so why not take Khan out? Because he doesnt want to risk it. Not like the Khan fight was for peanuts, it was like $1.5 mil. Let me be clear, I dont really sympathize for Bradley because he is trying to get the easiest path as well and now he is pissed because he is not getting megafights after beating Pac. Well, he should worry about fighting quality fighters....but he wont. He is not looking for risk, only guys he is favored to beat and should beat.

Judah not stepping stone status yet, ask Vernon Paris who thought that shyt. Judah has been in with tough fighters like Matthysse and Khan, he hasnt lost to any bums yet so he is not a true stepping stone. Zab has never lost to any fighter who was not a world champion at some point and time. In fact, all of his losses have been in title fights. Garcia will prove a lot to me if he beats Zab. (I am picking Zab) Garcia has beaten a shot Morales twice, a B-level ****, and the china-chinned Khan who Prescott KOed in 1.

Garcia beat a china chinned Khan who was the top of the division....the same china chinned Khan that beat Zab who you hold in high regards

Garcia been getting better N better wit each fight....that left hook is Sure he beats a flabby Morales but its how he beat him thats impressive....the first fight Morales came in at 142 N didnt bother to lose the weight

2nd fight Morales gets popped for Peds N this happens

 

[surv2syn]

Garcia beat a china chinned Khan who was the top of the division....the same china chinned Khan that beat Zab who you hold in high regards

Garcia been getting better N better wit each fight....that left hook is Sure he beats a flabby Morales but its how he beat him thats impressive....the first fight Morales came in at 142 N didnt bother to lose the weight

2nd fight Morales gets popped for Peds N this happens

Ok, so we on the Garcia bandwagon now. Will be calling you out shortly. Khan beat Zab, but I promise you that was NOT the Zab of old or the Zab that beat Paris. Zab was trained by Pernell Whitaker for that fight and although Zab was playing nice defense, that was his worst offensive output I can ever recall. Never seen him fight like that before or after. Now perhaps the height and reach bothered him, but Zab didnt put himself in position to even be competitive in that fight by not mounting an offense. That dont mean he will lose to Garcia.

Nevertheless, what does top of the division mean when there is no one there? No Bradley, no Alexander, just Maidana who he just barely walked out with his life...wait...what am I talking about??? How the hell was he on top when he just lost to Peterson??? Now who is arguing over who is the tallest midget?

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Ok, so we on the Garcia bandwagon now. Will be calling you out shortly. Khan beat Zab, but I promise you that was NOT the Zab of old or the Zab that beat Paris. Zab was trained by Pernell Whitaker for that fight and although Zab was playing nice defense, that was his worst offensive output I can ever recall. Never seen him fight like that before or after. Now perhaps the height and reach bothered him, but Zab didnt put himself in position to even be competitive in that fight by not mounting an offense. That dont mean he will lose to Garcia.

Nevertheless, what does top of the division mean when there is no one there? No Bradley, no Alexander, just Maidana who he just barely walked out with his life...wait...what am I talking about??? How the hell was he on top when he just lost to Peterson??? Now who is arguing over who is the tallest midget?

I kno you arent trying to say 140 is weak ass division like 175

Even after Bradley N Alexander left there was...
Khan
Garcia
Alvarado
Matthysse
Super Judah
Peterson
Maidana was still there
Josesito Lopez was still there
JMM was there

But since the great Bradley N Alexander left the division it became weak no one was there

N lets act like Peterson didnt get home cooking officiating against Khan N lets act like Peterson didnt get busted for PEDs against Khan N he still couldnt get that china chin

Im betting all my coli cash on Garcia

April 27th ill be right here like

 

[surv2syn]

I kno you arent trying to say 140 is weak ass division like 175

Even after Bradley N Alexander left there was...
Khan
Garcia
Alvarado
Matthysse
Super Judah
Peterson
Maidana was still there
Josesito Lopez was still there
JMM was there

But since the great Bradley N Alexander left the division it became weak no one was there

N lets act like Peterson didnt get home cooking officiating against Khan N lets act like Peterson didnt get busted for PEDs against Khan N he still couldnt get that china chin

Im betting all my coli cash on Garcia

April 27th ill be right here like

its not as strong as you make it seem, I dont know why yall overrate these divisions. yes, to me the shyt is weak because what fukkin criteria do you have to say it isnt???

Mathessye is a good fighter but he is B-class, cant dominate Zab or beat Alexander.
Zab was an A-class fighter but that hasnt been for some time now. couldnt beat Khan
Peterson is B-class couldnt beat Bradley
Lopez is B-class
Maidana B-class cant beat Khan
Khan B-class (A-class offense, D-class chin) KOed by Garcia and Prescott in less than 5 rounds
Garcia is A-class by default because he is undefeated but really B-class cuz he aint beat nobody but Khan. sorry, cant give him credit for Morales
the only A-class fighter you named was JMM and when did he fight at 140??? only against Fedchenko. JMM was never interested in fighting any of these B-class fighters or he would have, thats why you know they aint shyt. In the past 4 years JMM fought 3 times at 147, and two times each at 135 and 140. Out of those fights guess where his two most meaningLESS fights took place. 140.

Alexander and Bradley were the best fighters and they would barely be considered A-class themselves.

maybe you guys think because 140 has a lot of parity that its stacked. the fact that no one can separate themselves from the rest of the pack just means you have a logjam of fukkin mediocre fighters.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

its not as strong as you make it seem, I dont know why yall overrate these divisions. yes, to me the shyt is weak because what fukkin criteria do you have to say it isnt???

Mathessye is a good fighter but he is B-class, cant dominate Zab or beat Alexander.
Zab was an A-class fighter but that hasnt been for some time now. couldnt beat Khan
Peterson is B-class couldnt beat Bradley
Lopez is B-class
Maidana B-class cant beat Khan
Khan B-class (A-class offense, D-class chin) KOed by Garcia and Prescott in less than 5 rounds
Garcia is A-class by default because he is undefeated but really B-class cuz he aint beat nobody but Khan. sorry, cant give him credit for Morales
the only A-class fighter you named was JMM and when did he fight at 140??? only against Fedchenko. JMM was never interested in fighting any of these B-class fighters or he would have, thats why you know they aint shyt. In the past 4 years JMM fought 3 times at 147, and two times each at 135 and 140. Out of those fights guess where his two most meaningLESS fights took place. 140.

Alexander and Bradley were the best fighters and they would barely be considered A-class themselves.

maybe you guys think because 140 has a lot of parity that its stacked. the fact that no one can separate themselves from the rest of the pack just means you have a logjam of fukkin mediocre fighters.

JMM has fought 2 people at Welterweight Floyd N two outta those 3 fights been at catchweights breh Not to mention JMM is Still ranked at 140

140 been producing good fights that's why people been talking bout that division...wit the mini tourney coming up they goin get that much more attention

NOBODY N I MEAN NOBODY has ever said man all these nikkas at 140 goin at it but who cares Devon Alexander left that division

Matter fact before you came along calling dude an A fighter... Devon was known for 2 things acting like a hoe "my eye my eye I cant see" N getting a gift decision/ robbery of Matthysse who according to you aint shyt

 

[xRapHeadx]

because they truly are B-level fighters. Peterson is a boxer, he dont pressure all the time either, he stayed in Bradley's face because Bradley has no power. Peterson doesnt have much more power if any than Bradley does. Peterson, again, fought the wrong fight. Shouldve used his length and boxing ability to beat Bradley. Bradley smothered him though. Abregu? You giving these guys too much credit. Who has Abregu beaten of note? Really. He has KO's but against nobody's. Not to take all credit from Bradley, he is a good fighter and he fights the right fight and right opponent most of the time. He gets other fighters out of their game plan.

Peterson is a pressure fighter. He has only outboxed Ortiz(because Ortiz was a huge guy)

Khan
Cayo
Bradley
****


In his biggest fights, he plays the swarmer role(except for Ortiz.)

 

[xRapHeadx]

Dont go by who is shouting the loudest...go by the contracts signed. Bradley turned down a fight with Khan, hence GSP suing him. Bradley is guilty of ducking too. It wasnt a guarantee that he wouldve gotten Pacquiao...so why not take Khan out? Because he doesnt want to risk it. Not like the Khan fight was for peanuts, it was like $1.5 mil. Let me be clear, I dont really sympathize for Bradley because he is trying to get the easiest path as well and now he is pissed because he is not getting megafights after beating Pac. Well, he should worry about fighting quality fighters....but he wont. He is not looking for risk, only guys he is favored to beat and should beat.

Bradley got a 1M guarantee to fight Casamayor, then 5M against Manny. It was a brilliant decision on his part, to get more to fight a better fighter.
He'd be favored to beat Khan if they fought lol.

Judah not stepping stone status yet, ask Vernon Paris who thought that shyt.

Paris was a shyt prospect. He got dropped and struggled with Tim Coleman lol. He was a fight to build Zab's confidence up.

Judah has been in with tough fighters like Matthysse and Khan, he hasnt lost to any bums yet so he is not a true stepping stone. Zab has never lost to any fighter who was not a world champion at some point and time. In fact, all of his losses have been in title fights. Garcia will prove a lot to me if he beats Zab. (I am picking Zab) Garcia has beaten a shot Morales twice, a B-level ****, and the china-chinned Khan who Prescott KOed in 1.

Judah was getting outboxed by Kaizer Mabuza lol. He hasn't beaten an elite fighter since Cory Spinks, and it's questionable whether Cory was ever elite. He's taken some one sided ass kickings when he stepped up. He's a name and Cannon fodder.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

cory spinks beat jermain taylor

 

[Newzz]

Band Camp

 

[Jello Biafra]

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It is amazing how awkward and forced his trash talking skills are. He is just so very bad at it.

 

[SuikodenII]

its not as strong as you make it seem, I dont know why yall overrate these divisions. yes, to me the shyt is weak because what fukkin criteria do you have to say it isnt???

Mathessye is a good fighter but he is B-class, cant dominate Zab or beat Alexander.
Zab was an A-class fighter but that hasnt been for some time now. couldnt beat Khan
Peterson is B-class couldnt beat Bradley
Lopez is B-class
Maidana B-class cant beat Khan
Khan B-class (A-class offense, D-class chin) KOed by Garcia and Prescott in less than 5 rounds
Garcia is A-class by default because he is undefeated but really B-class cuz he aint beat nobody but Khan. sorry, cant give him credit for Morales
the only A-class fighter you named was JMM and when did he fight at 140??? only against Fedchenko. JMM was never interested in fighting any of these B-class fighters or he would have, thats why you know they aint shyt. In the past 4 years JMM fought 3 times at 147, and two times each at 135 and 140. Out of those fights guess where his two most meaningLESS fights took place. 140.

Alexander and Bradley were the best fighters and they would barely be considered A-class themselves.

maybe you guys think because 140 has a lot of parity that its stacked. the fact that no one can separate themselves from the rest of the pack just means you have a logjam of fukkin mediocre fighters.

He started too late in the Judah fight and it could've went either way.....but you are out of your fukking mind if you think Alexander beat Matthysse, I don't care what the three blind fakkits at ringside say

 

[Rev]

He started too late in the Judah fight and it could've went either way.....but you are out of your fukking mind if you think Alexander beat Matthysse, I don't care what the three blind fakkits at ringside say

yea, I hate seeing fighters get that home cookin like Alexander did in that fight...way too obvious.

 

[HARLEM AL]

I thought Matthysse won 2 but people need to stop making it seem like it was a wash. shyt was close.

Abril-Rios is a robbery...