damn... whats this about?
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damn... whats this about?
I want to touch on something. True, Floyd was not a big welterweight....but he is deceptively strong. Very strong in fact. Strength is something that many people dont understand when it comes to boxing. It has nothing to do with punching power either. Roy Jones has been known in fights and sparring to have devastating punching power, but at the same time, most of his opponents and sparring partners agree that he is not a particularly strong guy. Same with Oscar. Floyd has a natural strength advantage over a lot of his opponents. In fact, although Mosley lifts weights and has been known at times to have a bodybuilder physique, I dont know if he has ever been one of the strongest fighters at any weight he has fought at. Maybe average. Hatton, although he mangled a lot of fighters...is no way stronger than Floyd. When the fight began I was watching it with some folk and they were thinking Floyd was in trouble because of the way Hatton was wrestling him. I kept telling them, he is gonna tire himself out doing that before Floyd, then its gonna be a wrap. Hatton may have had a strength advantage at 140 but he didnt at 147....which shouldve been evidenced when he fought Collazo, who despite being a boxer, is very strong himself.
Strength doesnt have anything to do with how your body looks really. Jermain Taylor was a strong guy but Winky was just as strong (I believe stronger physically) although he didnt have the big punching power.
Hatton blows up to 200 pounds when not in camp, lets not try to act like Floyd was at a advantage fighting the so called lil Hatton, like Hatton didnt rehydrate 15-20 pounds vs Mayweather
You are right, he was never really in that fight statistically...but I cant remember who it was but somebody was sooo pissed at Urango because he hurt Hatton bad to the body. The guy just didnt step on the gas. I am not saying he was winning the fight, only that he could have made it a much tougher fight if he had the will and experience that Collazo did. Collazo just didnt have the power that Urango had or he'd have finished Hatton. I was just noting that Hatton's days were beginning to be numbered as he moved out of protected status and into big money fights. I expected Tszyu to beat him but he apparently caught Tszyu at the right time. Plus Tszyu is not the type of fighter that Collazo is, different style. Tszyu relies heavily on timing and Ricky's smothering and wrestling just had dude all fukked up.
Hatton blows up to 200 pounds when not in camp, lets not try to act like Floyd was at a advantage fighting the so called lil Hatton, like Hatton didnt rehydrate 15-20 pounds vs Mayweather
I didnt say Floyd was at an advantage but since you quoted me I will clarify. I dont care if Hatton was 300lbs. He is still not a stronger fighter than Floyd. Size and weight has nothing to do with strength...only mass. When you shrink back down to the same size as your opponent that doesnt make you stronger. In fact, if he had to lose a lot it would make him weaker and effect his stamina.
What is Hatton? Like 5'7"? You are mistaken if you think him blowing up to 200lbs and shrinking back down to 147 makes him any bigger than his body frame says he is. Hatton was a 140lber. Plain and simple. He had an advantage over those guys because he was able to physically mangle them. Not the case at 147 and he found that out with Collazo.
And I am not really trying to argue with you, Floyd is my guy and I am not making excuses for him. I knew he would beat Hatton and this is why I felt that way.
Hatton blows up to 200 pounds when not in camp, lets not try to act like Floyd was at a advantage fighting the so called lil Hatton, like Hatton didnt rehydrate 15-20 pounds vs Mayweather
and let me be clear so you dont think I am making excuses for Floyd....if the fight wouldve been at 140 it wouldve been the same thing. Floyd may not be much bigger than Hatton if he is bigger at all but Floyd at any weight is stronger physically than Hatton.
ChocolateGiddyUp
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That was my whole point... that fight has the same out come at any weight...People try to take away frm Mayweather cuz it was at 147 N act like Floyd had Trinidad power N rehydrated into a middleweight while poor lil Ricky Hatton couldnt handle the weight
That was my whole point... that fight has the same out come at any weight...People try to take away frm Mayweather cuz it was at 147 N act like Floyd had Trinidad power N rehydrated into a middleweight while poor lil Ricky Hatton couldnt handle the weight
nah, if anything Floyd is the naturally smaller guy.
I went and added showtime to my cable package after they got GBP exclusivity.
I mean just look at this schedule comparison between HBO and Showtime.
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Showtime got it, there are a lot of fights on there I will be sure to watch, just about every one. I dont know if I will watch any of the fights on HBO except for Rios, Donaire and Kessler fights.
THIS..........
Who's to say Hatton didnt have a 200 pounders strength since he always blows up there instantly after a fight
Look how Floyd manhandled Mosley who mauled Margarito, and look how he struggled to keep Hatton off of him, hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink, before shattering his chin with that thunderous left hook. Even vs Cotto Floyd stood there with the
look while Cotto flailing away like a girl, contrary to the Hatton fight. Hatton dont have natural strength but he definitely have's fat boy strength, which is nothing to blink at
ChocolateGiddyUp
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My Predictions
Rios vs. Alvarado II - Alva UD - upset pick but i think it sets up a trilogy
Rigondeaux vs. Donaire - Doniare UD
Canelo vs. Trout - Canelo Split Dec..possible robbery
Garcia vs. Judah - Garcia KO
Mayweather vs. Guerrero - May UD
Peterson vs. Matthysse - Matt TKO
Froch vs. Kessler - UD
Broner vs. Malignaggi - Boner UD
Maidana vs. Lopez - Maidana UD
Rios vs. Alvarado II - Alva UD - upset pick but i think it sets up a trilogy
Rigondeaux vs. Donaire - Doniare UD
Canelo vs. Trout - Canelo Split Dec..possible robbery
Garcia vs. Judah - Garcia KO
Mayweather vs. Guerrero - May UD
Peterson vs. Matthysse - Matt TKO
Froch vs. Kessler - UD
Broner vs. Malignaggi - Boner UD
Maidana vs. Lopez - Maidana UD
Tide Run This
Veteran
Damn Showtime lineup 