true but the last few weeks we feasted pretty good. Plus we still have next week and the week after..
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true but the last few weeks we feasted pretty good. Plus we still have next week and the week after..
Mike Tyson cartoon set to air
NEW YORK -- Adult Swim says it's turning Mike Tyson into a cartoon detective.
The network announced Friday it will show a new animated series called "Mike Tyson Mysteries" that will feature the retired boxing champion.
On the show, a cartoon version of Tyson will solve wacky problems, assisted by a trusty associate: a foul-mouthed pet pigeon. The network said Tyson will voice the animated character, as well as make live-action appearances.
The show targeted for next season, but no premiere date was specified.
NEW YORK -- Adult Swim says it's turning Mike Tyson into a cartoon detective.
The network announced Friday it will show a new animated series called "Mike Tyson Mysteries" that will feature the retired boxing champion.
On the show, a cartoon version of Tyson will solve wacky problems, assisted by a trusty associate: a foul-mouthed pet pigeon. The network said Tyson will voice the animated character, as well as make live-action appearances.
The show targeted for next season, but no premiere date was specified.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Pac is a big draw, but JMM has an enormous Mexican following. Only Canelo and JCCjr compare. JMM is largest Mexican draw of all time next to Barrera, Morales, and JCCsr. Also, Cotto is a huge draw, as evident by recent talks of him earning $10 mil to face Canelo. Guerrero cant come close to comparing to any of Pac's opponents as far as draw and recognition....not even Tim Bradley.
Its not as easy as you seem to think for a few reasons.
- Floyd was the only draw on that card. those undercard fights were just not popular fights. Mares - PDL wouldve maybe been Main Event on Shobox but as far as Showtime Championship Boxing, it likely wouldve been part of a triple header with two other really good fights.
- Robert Guerrero is virtually unknown by casuals outside of Gilroy. He doesnt have a huge Mexican fan base.
- Showtime's "All Access" was "aiight" nowhere near as good as 24/7.
- Showtime is in about 7 million less homes than HBO.
- There was no press tour or initial press conference to announce the fight.
- $70 is a lot to pay for any PPV, much less this card.
you mean Oscar is the largest mexican draw of all time....
the card was stacked with Mexicans on Cinco De Mayo weekend, the
at Timothy Bradley being a bigger draw than Guerrero, especially @ the time when Pac fought Bradley.. That nikka was Macklin status.... Ortiz was a bigger draw than Bradley as wellthe ppv was only $70 for folks who want to watch in HD only (right?)
All i'm saying is Floyd fighting Mexicans on Mexican holidays while having his cards stacked with Mexicans, unpopular or not, and still touching a million homes is not that big of a deal when its Floyd Mayweather vs a gang of Mexicans or Pac fighting anyone notable
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Mike Tyson cartoon set to air
NEW YORK -- Adult Swim says it's turning Mike Tyson into a cartoon detective.
The network announced Friday it will show a new animated series called "Mike Tyson Mysteries" that will feature the retired boxing champion.
On the show, a cartoon version of Tyson will solve wacky problems, assisted by a trusty associate: a foul-mouthed pet pigeon. The network said Tyson will voice the animated character, as well as make live-action appearances.
The show targeted for next season, but no premiere date was specified.
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That has adult swim written all over it.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Pac didn't agree two years after he was offered 40 mill 0 ppv.... that was Floyd Mayweathers response after Pac agreed to the tests in 2011... get that fact straight.
The truth is that Floyd pricing himself out was why the fight didn't happen the second time, remember this was before Floyd/Cotto Pac/Bradley/Roidquez4
and he fooled the public in believing in this huge drawing power over Pac despite him only fighting on Mexican holidays and always having a better undercard than Pac stacked with notable Mexicans.. This bytch had Josesito Lopez, Canelo, Eric Morales, and was fighting Victor Ortiz all on the same card and I think the fight did about 1.2 mill, but Floydie takes all the credit of course and was feeling himself.....
All these excuses yall make for why Floyd dont need Pac NOW is weaksauce because this is after Pac finally loss and got KO'd, after the fact.. No shyt he dont need Pac NOW duhhhhh.. Even I acknowledge this
but its funny how nikkas wont acknowledge that if Floyd didn't price himself out, refusing to accept any less than 100% ppv rev and fought Pac back in 2011 WHEN PAC AGREED TO ALL TESTS. that in that ONE fight would've made AT LEAST half of what hes making with this 6 fight showtime deal...
Floyd couldve fought and beat Pac, shutting all his haters up, fought Cotto at his imaginary prime weight of 154, fought Canelo or maybe Martinez or both then retired undisputed
InvictusAeternusEternus
In the cut
breh, explain to me how the main draw can price himself out of a fight. they had the figures right in front of them. the lower paid fighter or the smaller draw is the one who prices himself out. for some reason, yall nikkas think Manny could dictate to Floyd. where they do that at? Manny had L's on his record....Floyd never needed Pac and Pac really didnt need Floyd for that matter. if Pac wanted the fight...then agree to the testing, then you leave Mayweather with no excuse.
InvictusAeternusEternus
In the cut
Your wasting your time arguing with that fuctional retard ! I done damn near written dissertations trying to school that moron. I even created a fvcking timeline with corresponding articles from multiple sources and he still just repeats the same stupid argument over and over shyt goes back to the
days .
I may be off, but if so, what was the elapsed time period? He was offered the 40 mil at the end of 2009. when did he agree to take the tests and they would be RANDOM? thats what I may be missing.
Floyd Mayweather Vs. Manny Pacquiao Almost Happened In 2010 With 50/50 Split - Bloody Elbow
He agreed to random urine tests, but as for blood....
"one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight."
:dkufdup: that aint random worth a damn.
no later than 30 days before the fight then one after the fight?
so 14 days would really weaken him that bad? I wonder what the stipulations of this USADA testing will be.
where is the mathematical breakdown here? 2009-2011 is 2 years aint it? or am I missing something?
that did it. now I know :udontknow:
Oscar is a Mexican American. Do you know how many Mexicans hate Oscar??? He has a good size Mexican following but not like the guys I mentioned. Oscar effectively became a crossover star in America with casual boxing fans and women. He tried hard, but real Mexican fans wont forgive him from beating up on JCC, possibly the most beloved and popular fighter to come out of Mexico.
Answer this. If Oscar is the biggest draw, then tell me why he only has one fight on the Mexican Netflix region? The only fight he has is the one against Chavez. Chavez has documentaries on there. All of JMM's big fights, Morales, and Barrera's are on there. Floyd and Pac appear on there once....against JMM. Oscar is a crossover star that alienated much of his Mexican fan base. Most of them believe him to be a phony, arrogant, self-centered a$$hole who only acknowledged his heritage when it was convenient. To them, he is a cac with Mexican blood.
this is a dissertation a guy wrote on "Why Mexicans Hate Oscar..."
Mexicans started to see that De La Hoya portrayed his Mexicanity only when convenient, specially prior to his fights, and his management was more preoccupied on gaining this community for the money they could generate as a boxing market rather than for building De La Hoyas credibility. De La Hoya never embraced this community in obvious manners and he found rejection as reciprocal reaction.
Why Mexicans Hate Oscar De La Hoya | Israel's House of Madness
if he is the largest drawer of Mexican fans, its because they wanted to see him get his ass kicked and watch cacs take a dump on him.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
You just said it in the bolded... if Floyd didn't need Pac and Pac didn't need Floyd then niether one could really dictate to the other...
When teams are both cash cows you negotiate not dictate.. Floyd can pull that shyt with peons like Guerrero ortiz marquez...pretty much anyone not named Pacquiao..
Floyd was on some take ot or leave it shyt with Pac like Pac wasn't not only THAT nikka in the ww div under top rank and a cash cow, but like he his numbers wasn't doing around the same as Floyds fights...
Floyd and Pac were both main draws and cash cows so how can Floyd dictate to team Pac what his purse is gonna be and that he should get 100% ppv revenue... shyt is laughable...
To say that Pac wasn't just as big a draw as Floyd at that point in time is just being biased.. I don't get bias vibe from you so what gives??
We actually have a very basic disagreement. You somehow believe the fight was ready to go had Floyd gave in to financial demands. I believe the fight was ready to go had Pac given in to the testing.
Someone is right and someone is wrong. May be you, may be me. Lets focus on this though. How many fights are not made because of money? A ton right? How many are not made because of drug testing? I can only think of one.
You can call a guy overpricing himself greedy.
What do you call a guy who refuses to take the same drug test as his opponent?
Come on breh......just.......come on:really: