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Jiro Watanabe vs Payao Poontarat 1

Would've been the first unification at super flyweight/Jr. Bantamweight but Jiro was stripped of the WBA for taking on this fight for the WBC title. This is still the first Lineal championship for the division


Jiro Watanabe vs Payao Poontarat 2

 

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If manny asked floyd for random blood testing he would be a hero. If floyd said no, he would be barry bonds. Really shows how badly some ppl hate mayweather

How would Floyd be Barry Bonds??.. Rodquez's s&d coach Angel "memo" Heredia admitted under oath at a supreme court hearing that he created the roids Bonds was taking, and bragged about being able to pass any test...

Manny has no reason to demand Floyd do olympic style unlimited blood test and vice versa niether did Floyd

 

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yes he did. and that lesson was....take the damn test. either we both can be clean or we both have a chance of being dirty. cant claim Marquez was cheating because you dont like to get tested your damn self. if I were Marquez...and I were suspicious of this guy cheating...why would I walk into a fight having the notion that its going to be an unfair advantage? IF Marquez was cheating....he simply used the loophole that he KNEW Manny would allow.

Manny never claimed Roidquez was cheating

 

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Manny never claimed Roidquez was cheating

camp sure as hell did...Roach stayed talking shyt

Same way Floyd gets shyt when Big Floyd or Roger says something

 

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camp sure as hell did...Roach stayed talking shyt

Same way Floyd gets shyt when Big Floyd or Roger says something

I shyt on Floyd for his actions and what comes out his mouth

 

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How would Floyd be Barry Bonds??.. Rodquez's s&d coach Angel "memo" Heredia admitted under oath at a supreme court hearing that he created the roids Bonds was taking, and bragged about being able to pass any test...

Manny has no reason to demand Floyd do olympic style unlimited blood test and vice versa niether did Floyd

Because if a Undefeated black who the media hates made suspicious excuses about not wanting to take a drug test, den the media would and other would crucify him. the media loves manny and to be honest, don't care if hes taking it or not. He got a Huge pass.

Nothing wrong with either one demanding a drug test as long as both of them were doing, and there was no reason for either of them to decline it. if floyd didn't wanna do a drug test, i'd give him the same criticism

 

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Because if a Undefeated black who the media hates made suspicious excuses about not wanting to take a drug test, den the media would and other would crucify him. the media loves manny and to be honest, don't care if hes taking it or not. He got a Huge pass.

Nothing wrong with either one demanding a drug test as long as both of them were doing, and there was no reason for either of them to decline it. if floyd didn't wanna do a drug test, i'd give him the same criticism

Floyds demands were unreasonable and bytchmade... the media agreed, especially since OSDT had never been demanded, Pac has never been connected to drug use, and Pac agreed to the test a year and a half later.... then Floydie swithced up and demanded he controls 100% revenue..im sure the media took note of that too... if pac fails a drug test then the media would be all over it, just like with any other fighter... @ you thinking if the roles were reversed Floydie and his ego would allow anyone to dictate blood testing procedures to him... Floydie would've been like" I don't need Pac, next"

 

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Floyds demands were unreasonable and bytchmade... the media agreed, especially since OSDT had never been demanded, Pac has never been connected to drug use, and Pac agreed to the test couple a year and a half later.... then Floydie swithced up and demanded he controls 100% revenue..im sure the media took note of that too... if pac fails a drug test then the media would be all over it, just like with any other fighter... @ you thinking if the roles were reversed Floydie and his ego would allow anyone to dictate blood testing procedures to him... Floydie would've been like" I don't need Pac, next"

So is asking for 10 million per pounds, saying he is afraid of needles and I small he big not bytchmade................


It could be argued Both was sort of responsible for the fight not happening in the first 2 go arounds, Manny had a chance to erase doubt on his side, and he complained of a paper cut taking 8 months to heal and talked about MGM Grand not being suitable and having to build a temporary venue on top of 50 other lies...........................Manny ducked then fought in that very MGM his next fight, Manny never wanted it



When all you Pactards die off or abandon ship history will crucify Manny, ducked the biggest fight over testing only to test for Rios bum ass

 

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Fernando Montiel Will Face Jaderes Padua on June 22 - Boxing News

thats a pure definition of a gimme record padding fight..montiel loses that one and he's done to me

 

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So is asking for 10 million per pounds, saying he is afraid of needles and I small he big not bytchmade................

asking 10 million per pound only insures Floydie dont violate since HE DID in his previous fight with JMM.. and thats $10 mill for Manny to pay Floydie if he went over as well.. I'd like you to link where Manny said he was afraid of needles also I believe it was the unlimited blood possibly being drawn close to the fight Manny had a problem with... dont see how thats unreasonable..

It could be argued Both was sort of responsible for the fight not happening in the first 2 go arounds, Manny had a chance to erase doubt on his side, and he complained of a paper cut taking 8 months to heal and talked about MGM Grand not being suitable and having to build a temporary venue on top of 50 other lies

Manny erased doubt when he agreed to testing and Floydie said he had to now control 100% of all the revenue, instead of doing co pronotion like its always been done.. Manny vs Floydie was always supposed to be in a venue that could sit quadruple the capacity of the MGM Grand.. It doesn't even make since that as a promoter, which Floydie claims to be, he wouldn't want to maximize profits by having possibly the biggest fight boxing has ever seen in an arena that sits more than 12,000 people... Unless Floydie didn't really want the fight and had planned on fighting Insert spanish fighter here ___________ on Cinco De Mayo anyway

Manny ducked then fought in that very MGM his next fight, Manny never wanted it

yea because Manny/Bradley could fill up a stadium ... right??

When all you Pactards die off or abandon ship history will crucify Manny, ducked the biggest fight over testing only to test for Rios bum ass

Nah Floydie not fighting, avoiding, ducking, whatever the fukk you wanna call it, Pac will always be a stain on his career

 

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The latest installment of “Pinoy Pride” will take place July 6 at the Solaire Casino and Leisure Park in Manila, Philippines and feature a WBO minimumweight title clash between Merlito Sabillo (21-0, 11 KOs) and Jorle Estrada (16-6, 5 KOs). Also super flyweight Arthur Villanueva (21-0, 11 KOs) meets Arturo Badillo (21-4, 19 KOs), and AJ “Bazooka” Banal (28-2-1, 20 KOs) returns against Ramon Maas (26-3, 15 KOs).

Jhonny Gonzalez Eyes Ring Retun on 7/27 in Mexico - Boxing News

By Miguel Rivera

Former champion Jhonny Gonzalez (54-8, 46KOs) will remain active with a planned return on July 27th in Mexico. Gonzalez lost his WBC featherweight title to Daniel Ponce De Leon last September due to an eight round technical decision. There was a rematch clause but Gonzalez never got a chance to exercise that option as Abner Mares knocked out Ponce in May to capture the WBC belt. Gonzalez has won two in a row since the title loss and now wants a shot at Mares' belt.

The GAWD returns!

 

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Jhonny Gonzalez Eyes Ring Retun on 7/27 in Mexico - Boxing News


The GAWD returns!

Bombardero is back !

 

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The Breadman from boxingtalk.com on why he believes Floyd deserves majority blame for why the Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight never happened.

First off I believe that Floyd Mayweather takes the brunt of the blame on why the fight didn’t happen. It seemed that Mayweather was always throwing monkey wrenches in the negotiations.

Weight: Floyd allegedly asked for a fight at 154 pound. Manny wanted 147. It’s pretty obvious both are welterweights and the fight should be at 147lbs.

Glove Size: Fights over 147 are contested in 10 ounce gloves. Fights under 147 are contested in 8 ounce gloves. In my opinion these should be non issues, but they became issues because Mayweather made them issues. When you hear people say Floyd agreed to ALL of Manny’s terms, they never say what the terms were. The terms were 147 pounds, 8 oz gloves of their choice and a penalty of 10 million per pound if either fighter came in over 147lbs. Although the $10million per pound is a steep penalty, it should be a non-issue for a fighter that his team insist walks around at 147 and could easily make 140. I don’t want to make light of the $10 million penalty, but let me give you an analogy: If I wanted a government job but before I got the job I had to sign off on an agreement stating I would never dress in drag and if I did I would forfeit a years salary. Sure that’s steep but it would be easy for me to sign off on. I’m never dressing in drag under any circumstances. People made that out to be a big concession when actually it wasn’t.

Drug Testing: When Floyd came out of retirement if anybody remembers he never talked about drug testing. In fact he didn’t ask Marquez who was coming up 2 divisions in September of 09 to take any special test. Just the standard governing commissions test. After the Marquez fight the insults on Pacquiao reigned supreme, the allegations started and drug testing became an issue.

Manny had a solid leg to stand on by saying I don’t have to bend for you buddy. Any star of his stature would have. The bigger you are the more power you have at the negotiation table. Besides that Floyd had NOT at that time set any precedence of drug testing…..

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