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[Tommy Gibbs]

So the Haneys are no longer interested in the Norman fight because Norman wants to wait until August to enroll in Vada testing, instead of doing it now at Bill Haney's request.

Hmm......

I heard about that today. That means this mf is cheating. Any time a fighter says they can't enroll in testing while giving a timeline of when they can, they are definitely cheating. No doubt about it. And I'll tell them that too. Imagine going into work one day and you've got a surprise piss test and then tell your boss, "well I can't piss today, but get with me in a week...". Yeah, he cheating...


Pac is gonna get stopped tomorrow.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Shawn Porter predicted the Haneys would pull out.

I'm not sure if this is legit concern or maybe Bill trying to stir up drama to get more people to talk about the fight or maybe mind games to get into the norman's head or maybe he scared.

You don't think fighters using roids is a concern??

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Is the Wilder-Fury trilogy enough to rank Deontay Wilder over Tyson Fury?



From 1986 to 1990, Tyson beat twelve of his fifteen top-ten ranked opponents according to Ring Magazine, most by early knockout. Names include Trevor Berbick, James Smith, Tony Tucker, and Michael Spinks.

But Tyson lost or quit every match that turned into a fight

Ever heard of Razor Ruddock? At the time he was the highest rated contender. Even Holyfield didn't want to fight him. Tyson basically ruined his career over 19 rounds in 2 fights.

 

[TheDarkCloud]

Shawn Porter predicted the Haneys would pull out.

I'm not sure if this is legit concern or maybe Bill trying to stir up drama to get more people to talk about the fight or maybe mind games to get into the norman's head or maybe he scared.

The Haneys are traumatized after Garcia. They definitely scared. And I initially gave them props for even taking this fight. Its crazy they really expect the Normans to just move on command for them out of contract.

 

[NormanConnors]

This is why I wanted to see this fight in 07 after cotto beat Judah and mosley. That was cotto at his peak. He had already slowed down considerably by this time. People hate on cotto but dude was a great boxer with excellent timing. And he was in some great fights.

They tried to make that fight Cotto's team said he wasnt ready


Plus Cotto was better physically at 154 anyway. 147 he had chin/and even moreso bodyshot problems making that weight. He would have been massacred.

 

[Road20]

"That's why you stopped throwing punches when you fought a real one, you got dropped..........when you get dropped, you don't get back up & fight back"

That nikka got quiet & STFU for a second

That look away means Thurman got his ass

 

[TheDarkCloud]

Who yall got between Claressa and Laila Ali? Lol

 

[ba'al]

You don't think fighters using roids is a concern??

I literally never mentioned anything about steroids in my post. Legit concern meaning he thinks Norman Jr is on any PEDs not just steroids. If that's the case and you thinks he's a cheater why even take the fight in the first place? Here's my post. I don't see any mention of steroids.

I'm not sure if this is legit concern or maybe Bill trying to stir up drama to get more people to talk about the fight or maybe mind games to get into the norman's head or maybe he scared.

 

[ba'al]

I heard about that today. That means this mf is cheating. Any time a fighter says they can't enroll in testing while giving a timeline of when they can, they are definitely cheating. No doubt about it. And I'll tell them that too. Imagine going into work one day and you've got a surprise piss test and then tell your boss, "well I can't piss today, but get with me in a week...". Yeah, he cheating...


Pac is gonna get stopped tomorrow.

Oh so you just looking to argue just to argue.

Norman pissed clean for his last fight and said he would sign up for vada drug testing in august after vacation. Even in your analogy the person is at work not vacation. That's like your boss calling you in for work after he already approved your PTO. Norman's just fought last month. If Bill Haney legitimately suspected Norman Jr is a cheater Why even take the fight in the first place? Seems like Bill looking for a excuse for not going forward with the fight.

Boxer's taking time off to rest after a fight is nothing new. Rest is important.


Also Bill will talk about fighters using peds but trained Alycia Baumgardner at one point after she popped dirty for PEDS. He still did business with her why not Norman who never to this point popped for any drug test.

 

[Bigblackted4]

I legit will be cutting my birthday plans to watch Uysk vs Dubois I am a degenerate

 

[Apollo Creed]

Oh so you just looking to argue just to argue.

Norman pissed clean for his last fight and said he would sign up for vada drug testing in august after vacation. Even in your analogy the person is at work not vacation. That's like your boss calling you in for work after he already approved your PTO. Norman's just fought last month. If Bill Haney legitimately suspected Norman Jr is a cheater Why even take the fight in the first place? Seems like Bill looking for a excuse for not going forward with the fight.

Boxer's taking time off to rest after a fight is nothing new. Rest is important.


Also Bill will talk about fighters using peds but trained Alycia Baumgardner at one point after she popped dirty for PEDS. He still did business with her why not Norman who never to this point popped for any drug test.

 

[ba'al]

I legit will be cutting my birthday plans to watch Uysk vs Dubois I am a degenerate

Happy Birthday! Saying it early if I dont remember come fight day. But Why you got to be a degenerate for watching Boxing? Seems like a cool way to celebrate.

Going to watch now ( I like Mills) but I do believe Bill could be looking for a way out. I don't see why if he thought Norman Jr was a cheater before the fight why even make the fight in the first place? And he's already on record for working with someone who tested positive for Drugs Alycia Baumgardner. It wasn't a problem then why now?

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Nobody care about them and none of them were hall of fame type fighters.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Oh so you just looking to argue just to argue.

Norman pissed clean for his last fight and said he would sign up for vada drug testing in august after vacation. Even in your analogy the person is at work not vacation. That's like your boss calling you in for work after he already approved your PTO. Norman's just fought last month. If Bill Haney legitimately suspected Norman Jr is a cheater Why even take the fight in the first place? Seems like Bill looking for a excuse for not going forward with the fight.

Boxer's taking time off to rest after a fight is nothing new. Rest is important.


Also Bill will talk about fighters using peds but trained Alycia Baumgardner at one point after she popped dirty for PEDS. He still did business with her why not Norman who never to this point popped for any drug test.

Taking test to prove you're clean has nothing to do with rest. Some are enrolled in year round testing. Some like Lying ass Garcia aren't. And I'm not a Haney fan, but I think the sport needs to be cleaned up. Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong never pissed hot. And neither did Shane Mosley who admitted to using roids. Whenever a fighter doesn't want to be tested (ahem, Pac to fight Mayweather prior to 2015), those are red flags.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Do you think Wilfredo Benitez was better than Floyd? I'll leave that on the table.

That would I think it's 50/50. Even when Wilfredo partied instead of training he caused problems