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[patscorpio]

Soooo AJose lost to Lundy

Tell me again how he was such a beast N a great win for Matthysse

shut up choc ..don't be talking shyt about my breh ajose

i was there at that card at rockingham park....that place is some bullshyt....there was no a/c in that bytch whatsoever..i was sweating when i got into the building, sweating during the fight, then sweating when i left...ridiculous ...got to meet tony demarco and teddy atlas..my dude edwin rodriguez was there so i was able to shoot the shyt and catch up with him...it was good shyt..that ajose-lundy fight surprised me alot...i figured hank would have been overwhelmed by him but dude looked good and textbook...dude was hittin that roll with no problem and was never in any trouble..ajose was gettingrocked over and over...had me like because i didn't give him a round..minor upset indeed..i also ran into ajose and his trainer after the fight in the lobby...my breh was looking so dejected like he had been crying ..i chopped it up with him, told him he was still going to be a threat at 140 and gave him some dap....he was real cool though

 

[patscorpio]

i just saw the molina-bey fight..GOTDAMN!!!! ..i don't know what bey thought he was doing but the second he got hit with that left hook he should have been holding like a mufukka...instead the nikka just stood in front of him get blasted over and over with some ready to 2 rumble punches..surprised he didnt go down though.. at ellerbe...fukking guy was like hold hold and spazzing when they stopped it

 

[surv2syn]

so the opening odds got lucas at a 2 to 1 favorite. honestly, I just can't see danny making it the distance. if zab had this dude out on his feet, them matthyse bombs gonna have him retreating real fast. but sooner or later, lucas will catch him flush, and it will be a wrap. but I still expect fireworks for as long as it lasts. goldenboy deserves major props for puttin this together. this is a die hard fans wet dream.

2-1

 

[surv2syn]

i just saw the molina-bey fight..GOTDAMN!!!! ..i don't know what bey thought he was doing but the second he got hit with that left hook he should have been holding like a mufukka...instead the nikka just stood in front of him get blasted over and over with some ready to 2 rumble punches..surprised he didnt go down though.. at ellerbe...fukking guy was like hold hold and spazzing when they stopped it

he shouldve taken a knee is what he shouldve done because he wasnt doing a good job of holding even. the thing that really got him KOed was, his head looked clear for a min but then he looked at the ref and got clocked again. he just didnt know what to do in that situation when he was being pressed, plus he tired himself out early in the round.

wtf is up wit this new layout maaaaaan!

 

[I-Hate-You]

That Bey/Molina finish was nuts

 

[surv2syn]

So it takes 5 hours for you bytch ass to run and type up this manifesto, you all over the place nikka.......


So Freitas and Casamayor is the league of SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Benitez, is that how much yall nikkas hate Floyd ...................


Floyd cant force nobody to fight him he was chasing both for years and they wanted no parts of it til it sense money wise, and when they fought theirselves into the picture they took L's, how can that be used to slight Floyd especially when he conquered the number one fighter in that division a guy who beat both fighters no matter when that happened

every true boxing fan in this forum will agree with me that had Floyd been in that mix to fight all of those guys it wouldve been more exciting and enhanced his career. who said Casa was in the league of Benitez...etc? Just comparing good times in good eras. Same as we had...to a maybe lesser degree because they were somewhat past their primes/best weights with ODLH, Vargas, Mosley, Mayorga, Trinidad. Plus you can slightly insert guys like Forrest, Quartey, Wright. When guys are around the same weight classes for years there is no excuse for them not to fight each other.

I am not the biggest ODLH fan and I criticized him at times too, but he shut me up plenty of times with his selection of opponents...it mattered a damn whether he won or loss. His resume is just plain better and even though he didnt fight everyone, his history doesnt show that he wouldve been reluctant to. He fought Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, Sturm, Hopkins, Manny. All were in their primes except Whitaker and B-Hop maybe but still they were championship fighters that wouldve been tough for anyone to beat at that time. Then he stacked his resume with guys like Hernandez, MAGO, Chavez, Camacho, Paez, Leija. He didnt have to fight Oba Carr or Yori Boy...fighters who were more risk than reward but he did, and I had to give him props for that.

 

[surv2syn]

That Bey/Molina finish was nuts

the crazy thing was the instructions from both corners. in the Bey corner, FMS said "I dont want u to get careless....but if you go to the body I think you can get him out of there" looked like it was gonna happen too.

then Goosen said...."you can stop him if but not if you fight for 30 sec. you gotta fight for 3 min and you can stop him"

those were excellent instructions from both corners and the fighters actually went out and followed those instructions! its just that Molina came out on top.

that...was a great round.

 

[NormanConnors]

Duke...your history is shaky. Johnston didnt lose to Lazcano until AFTER he had lost his belt to Castillo. WTF would Floyd want to fight the nikka for then unless it was a bytch move? When Stevie defended that belt 9 times and called out Shane and Floyd they didnt want him.

As for Shane being bigger name, I said "thats the way it is". They both ducked each other if thats your definition of a duck. I never said it was ok and never gave Shane a pass for that. I said thats what happened.

Anyway, to close this out..because its other shyt to talk about...

A lot of yall dudes is fans of BOXERS. Me..I am a fan of BOXING. So I try not to show any bias. If Roy was a ducker, so was Floyd. If Floyd wasnt, then neither was Roy. Simple as that.

My point is this...and yall can tell me what yall think...but...
Floyd fought Castillo twice and Corrales once then moved on. After that you had a great round robin of fights consisting of Corrales, Castillo, Casamayor, and Freitas. ALL on Showtime IIRC. We got a lot of great fights out of those. A Corrales-Casa trilogy (never forget when Casa hit him so hard it split his mouthpiece and went through his lip/cheek!) A near Corrales-Castillo trilogy which produce one of the all time classic fights. Casa vs Castillo, Casa vs Freitas, Freitas vs Corrales.

That was a great time for 130-135. Great fights, and the best fighting the best. Just think what it wouldve been like if Floyd wouldve been in that mix? He never wanted it though. And they called Roy reluctant...and went as far as to attempt to "Roycott" his fights. If he had dudes like that he wouldve fought them but everyone was overseas.

I would never knock Floyd for being a businessman...but for anyone to sit here and say he actually wanted to fight Casa or Freitas yet it never happened because it takes two to make a fight?? insisting that Freitas or Casamayor rather face each other is ridiculous.

Just think if Floyd was in that mix. It was like a throwback to the days of SRL, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Benitez. Obviously Floyd followed the blueprint laid by SRL...because when it came down to it...neither of them wanted it. The difference is....SRL beat better opposition.

Floyd beat the main cats/cream of the crop that did damage in those trilogies though (Castillo and Diego)

When was Freitas ever taken seriously, he was a quitter. That era's version of Ortiz and we see what happened to him.

 

[Black Gatsby]

shut up choc ..don't be talking shyt about my breh ajose

i was there at that card at rockingham park....that place is some bullshyt....there was no a/c in that bytch whatsoever..i was sweating when i got into the building, sweating during the fight, then sweating when i left...ridiculous ...got to meet tony demarco and teddy atlas..my dude edwin rodriguez was there so i was able to shoot the shyt and catch up with him...it was good shyt..that ajose-lundy fight surprised me alot...i figured hank would have been overwhelmed by him but dude looked good and textbook...dude was hittin that roll with no problem and was never in any trouble..ajose was gettingrocked over and over...had me like because i didn't give him a round..minor upset indeed..i also ran into ajose and his trainer after the fight in the lobby...my breh was looking so dejected like he had been crying ..i chopped it up with him, told him he was still going to be a threat at 140 and gave him some dap....he was real cool though

Made the same prediction, he was just too slow. Couldn't deal with the counters and ended up eating punches for fun. Never in danger of being stopped or hurt like they were saying. Think him getting staggered was more to do with poor balance

 

[Black Gatsby]

Lundy saying he wanted Matthysse was
Still remember the idiot getting stopped by Molina, holding the rope whilst getting the beats

 

[Worl Boss 1Don]

Badou Jack vs. Farah Ennis


Mickey Bey vs. John Molina Jr.

damn ole boy got his teeth shattered

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

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@DannySwift a bro F$%k that dude up then I'm go handle the other argentine!!!

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@AdrienBroner lets get it!




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[surv2syn]

Floyd beat the main cats/cream of the crop that did damage in those trilogies though (Castillo and Diego)

When was Freitas ever taken seriously, he was a quitter. That era's version of Ortiz and we see what happened to him.

Yeah, we see what happened, he ended up rich and a national icon. see this is what I mean by :udontknow: either that or your memory is flawed. When was he taken seriously??? when he was 29-0 with 29 KOs. thats when. the shyt u talkin about as far as quitting is years after Floyd left the division. we are talking about when they were in the division at the same time, both undefeated. if Popo wasnt taken seriously then why yall on GGG dikk then? huh??? Freitas was a huge star as proof that his wedding was broadcast on Brazilian TV. At the end of the day Popo is rich. I am just sayin, dont come tellin me Roy ducked a dude that never fought outside of Germany yet Floyd had undefeated guys in his own division fighting in Foxwoods but its not no duck. dont come tellin me Roy ducked Benn or Eubank, when they were makin more money there than Roy could offer them to come here. that dont make sense breh. call it consistent or dont call it at all.

truth of the matter is, they thought Castillo was an easy vick...plus more marketable than Johnston because he was Mexican and a student of JCCsr. he was never interested in fighting Johnston who reigned 135. when Castillo fought him to a close fight, they had to make a rematch for P.R. reasons. otherwise, he was on his way to 140.

thats what pisses me off is when I hear nikkas doggin out Floyd, I stick up for him but dont go putting other fighters down to lift him up. the people that say Floyd's team never has interest in matching him with someone who causes stylistic problems do have a point though. only real stylistic threat he had was Zab....everyone just knew Zab was a frontrunner. What does Casa, Freitas, Johnston, even Cory Spinks (who Floyd and Mosley had a chance to fight for undisputed title and both said they didnt want to because the fans didnt want to see them chase Cory around) all have in common? they aint slow, plodding Mexicans. Canelo is the only exception to this rule. Is it business? Yes. But you nikkas is mistaken if you are saying that Castillo was a bigger fight when he only made big purses against Corrales and Floyd in THE REMATCHES. Freitas made more for fighting Casa than Castillo (the guy who almost beat Floyd) did for fighting Corrales (1st fight), Lazcano, and Julio Diaz.

Know your history.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Yeah, we see what happened, he ended up rich and a national icon. see this is what I mean by :udontknow: either that or your memory is flawed. When was he taken seriously??? when he was 29-0 with 29 KOs. thats when. the shyt u talkin about as far as quitting is years after Floyd left the division. we are talking about when they were in the division at the same time, both undefeated. if Popo wasnt taken seriously then why yall on GGG dikk then? huh??? Freitas was a huge star as proof that his wedding was broadcast on Brazilian TV. At the end of the day Popo is rich. I am just sayin, dont come tellin me Roy ducked a dude that never fought outside of Germany yet Floyd had undefeated guys in his own division fighting in Foxwoods but its not no duck. dont come tellin me Roy ducked Benn or Eubank, when they were makin more money there than Roy could offer them to come here. that dont make sense breh. call it consistent or dont call it at all.

truth of the matter is, they thought Castillo was an easy vick...plus more marketable than Johnston because he was Mexican and a student of JCCsr. he was never interested in fighting Johnston who reigned 135. when Castillo fought him to a close fight, they had to make a rematch for P.R. reasons. otherwise, he was on his way to 140.

thats what pisses me off is when I hear nikkas doggin out Floyd, I stick up for him but dont go putting other fighters down to lift him up. the people that say Floyd's team never has interest in matching him with someone who causes stylistic problems do have a point though. only real stylistic threat he had was Zab....everyone just knew Zab was a frontrunner. What does Casa, Freitas, Johnston, even Cory Spinks (who Floyd and Mosley had a chance to fight for undisputed title and both said they didnt want to because the fans didnt want to see them chase Cory around) all have in common? they aint slow, plodding Mexicans. Canelo is the only exception to this rule. Is it business? Yes. But you nikkas is mistaken if you are saying that Castillo was a bigger fight when he only made big purses against Corrales and Floyd in THE REMATCHES. Freitas made more for fighting Casa than Castillo (the guy who almost beat Floyd) did for fighting Corrales (1st fight), Lazcano, and Julio Diaz.

Know your history.

Breh Freitas does NOTHING for Floyds legacy

Hatton was undefeated N that W gets shytted on N Ricky is better then Popo in erry single category

I can hear it now "Frietas really lost to Casa"
"Chico made him quit"
"He was a C class fighter who feasted on Brazilian bums"

Floyd fought the two best out the bunch Castillo N Corrales...its nitpicking saying he didn't fight Johnston or Popo

You got the Roy shyt twisted...it's the Roy stans that shyt on Floyd's "cherry picks" ignoring all the fukkery RJJr did

 

[NormanConnors]

Yeah, we see what happened, he ended up rich and a national icon. see this is what I mean by :udontknow: either that or your memory is flawed. When was he taken seriously??? when he was 29-0 with 29 KOs. thats when. the shyt u talkin about as far as quitting is years after Floyd left the division. we are talking about when they were in the division at the same time, both undefeated. if Popo wasnt taken seriously then why yall on GGG dikk then? huh??? Freitas was a huge star as proof that his wedding was broadcast on Brazilian TV. At the end of the day Popo is rich. I am just sayin, dont come tellin me Roy ducked a dude that never fought outside of Germany yet Floyd had undefeated guys in his own division fighting in Foxwoods but its not no duck. dont come tellin me Roy ducked Benn or Eubank, when they were makin more money there than Roy could offer them to come here. that dont make sense breh. call it consistent or dont call it at all.

truth of the matter is, they thought Castillo was an easy vick...plus more marketable than Johnston because he was Mexican and a student of JCCsr. he was never interested in fighting Johnston who reigned 135. when Castillo fought him to a close fight, they had to make a rematch for P.R. reasons. otherwise, he was on his way to 140.

thats what pisses me off is when I hear nikkas doggin out Floyd, I stick up for him but dont go putting other fighters down to lift him up. the people that say Floyd's team never has interest in matching him with someone who causes stylistic problems do have a point though. only real stylistic threat he had was Zab....everyone just knew Zab was a frontrunner. What does Casa, Freitas, Johnston, even Cory Spinks (who Floyd and Mosley had a chance to fight for undisputed title and both said they didnt want to because the fans didnt want to see them chase Cory around) all have in common? they aint slow, plodding Mexicans. Canelo is the only exception to this rule. Is it business? Yes. But you nikkas is mistaken if you are saying that Castillo was a bigger fight when he only made big purses against Corrales and Floyd in THE REMATCHES. Freitas made more for fighting Casa than Castillo (the guy who almost beat Floyd) did for fighting Corrales (1st fight), Lazcano, and Julio Diaz.

Know your history.

i meant in regards to Floyd knocking Ortiz the fukk out. So what if he is rich there are quite a few bums out there paid in boxing that means nothing . Freitas still wasn't known in the states, which is where the big money is made. Freitas had nothing for Floyd money or skill wise. The most dangerous fight Floyd could have taken in that era was against Diego, in which he won impressively. I think you're forgetting Floyd was a whole different monster at 130-135.

I'm not on the GGG bandwagon, I need to see him against somebody like Chavez Jr or maybe Ward before I buy the hype.

I don't think Roy or Floyd has ducked anybody for the record. Even though they can be intertwined business and fear are two different things.