by the way..if you brehs haven't read mike tyson - the undisputed truth...please do..the stories that mike tells in there 
...shyt is an excellent read
...shyt is an excellent read
Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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About last night's GBP card on Fox Sports 1:
Rocky got that WBC Silver (
) Featherweight belt...now he can get either a shot at Featherweight champ Jhonny Gonzalez or Super-Featherweight champ Takashi Miura. Hopefully he has it enough in him to get a legit world title and not some color-coded version before he retires for good.
The rest of the card was a bit meh though. Keandre Gibson was not impressing me at all right up to him getting the KO with that really weird looking body shot.
High school students fighting grown women? What's up with dat?
And that dude who fought the debuting Ginger Cowboy with a record of 1-10.
Plus Jim Ross seemed awkward as fukk. I guess he will need to find his legs when it comes to calling boxing and maybe he would benefit from a better co-commentator.
Rocky got that WBC Silver (
) Featherweight belt...now he can get either a shot at Featherweight champ Jhonny Gonzalez or Super-Featherweight champ Takashi Miura. Hopefully he has it enough in him to get a legit world title and not some color-coded version before he retires for good.The rest of the card was a bit meh though. Keandre Gibson was not impressing me at all right up to him getting the KO with that really weird looking body shot.
High school students fighting grown women? What's up with dat?
And that dude who fought the debuting Ginger Cowboy with a record of 1-10.
Plus Jim Ross seemed awkward as fukk. I guess he will need to find his legs when it comes to calling boxing and maybe he would benefit from a better co-commentator.
I haven't seen Juarez fight in years & I have no interest in seeing him fight at all.
He had, I want to say a good 3-5 year period where this dude was on every single damn card. He had entertaining fights at times because of his power, but he had so many boring fights where he wouldn't throw any punches whatsoever.
He had, I want to say a good 3-5 year period where this dude was on every single damn card. He had entertaining fights at times because of his power, but he had so many boring fights where he wouldn't throw any punches whatsoever.
When did Ward call out Floyd? I was under the impression that they have always been cool, Ward has had multiple workouts at Floyd's gym as recently as the Maidana fight so I'm going to need some receipts for this claim friend. If he did call out Floyd then I don't respect that, Floyd is my height he would look like a kid standing next to Ward.
You lost respect for Ward cool.How exactly does that mean he is hiding something?
He has promotional issues, it happens.
I asked you earlier who you think gives him problems at 175 and I didn't get an answer.
You mention Stevenson so I'm assuming that's who you think gives Ward problems at 175. You don't even feel comfortable picking Stevenson over a 49 year old Hopkins. What do you think an in prime Ward which is pretty much young BHop with a better left than right hand does to him?
I honestly don't understand the Ward hate on this boad, you nikkas see mediocre boxers with power and fall in love yet Andre Ward gets hated on.
Stevenson is not an easy fight for Ward...neither is BHop. they both give him problems. we dont know who else will though because he wont step up...lol.
its no Ward hate...not as far as his boxing ability. the dude has potential to be an ATG. something about him and this coddling shyt though. if he can fight in Oakland every time out...cool...but dont expect everyone to come there...like Froch. step up to 175. the problem with Ward is, he gives the perception that he doesnt care about greatness.....not if its at the expense of him moving out of his comfort zone.
BHop wouldn't have struggled with Fonfara but I'm going to let thesquad cook.
breh, you not looking at things logically. hell no BHop wouldnt struggle with Fonfara...but thats because the style is different and BHop aint trying to KO Fonfara. Stevenson TRAINED to knock Fonfara the fucc out! thats why you saw a competitive fight. thats like comparing Floyd and Manny common opponents. One guy may look more spectacular because he is trying to hurt the opponent. the other not so much because he is trying to box his ears off and not take much return fire.
I cant wait for Adonis Stevenson vs Bernard Hopkins......I have a feeling a lot of quotes made in here will be re-upped
nikkas propping up Fonfara now? It was supposed to be a showcase fight
But I should've expected this, yall the same brehs that tried to elevate John Molina Jr after Lucas Matthysse struggled to death with him
nikkas propping up Fonfara now? It was supposed to be a showcase fight
But I should've expected this, yall the same brehs that tried to elevate John Molina Jr after Lucas Matthysse struggled to death with him
It started when Ward picked his childhood friend Guerrero to beat Floyd. Floyd talked shyt to him. Said he was horrible at building his name/brand and cant draw flies to chit outside of Oakland. Said Broner was more popular and Broner was making just as much money. Told him to come to his team and they would show him how to market himself into a star and get the big paydays. So a reporter asked Ward would he fight Floyd...and his answer was yes, he would fight him at 160. It wasnt a call out but then again it was. He went on to try and clarify by saying he is not going to chase a Floyd fight because it wasnt realistic. So, he didnt say he wanted to make a Floyd fight, but he said he would fight him at 160. Not the same thing but in some ways it is.
to me if you say you are #2 and Floyd is #1 and you wont fight anyone else at 160 but you will fight him because you are coming for the #1 spot....its a pretty sly way of calling someone out.
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I cant wait for Adonis Stevenson vs Bernard Hopkins......I have a feeling a lot of quotes made in here will be re-upped
nikkas propping up Fonfara now? It was supposed to be a showcase fight
But I should've expected this, yall the same brehs that tried to elevate John Molina Jr after Lucas Matthysse struggled to death with him
Molina is a threat. He is a known spoiler and a guy you have to watch until the final bell. Doesnt mean he is great...but he is a guy you just dont want to put your guy in there with if you are looking for a tune-up.
Fonfara is a decent fighter. He'd probably beat Kovalev that night. it all depends. If Kovalev couldnt get him outta there early like Stevenson it wouldve been worse because Kovalev looked really gassed against the limited Agnew.
I dont know how yall watch fights but the styles are different. Dont think because Fonfara gave a good fight that means he gets washed by BHop. if thats the case....BHop couldnt do nothing with Chad but it didnt take Stevenson but a couple of minutes to dispose of him. BHop outboxed Cloud but Stevenson beat blood from him. Stevenson comes for the KO. Bernard comes to not take risks and complain about close scorecards.
if the fight went exactly the same way....I dont see Kovalev beating Fonfara. Stevenson almost got him out of there early but he didnt. he still laid leather on his ass for 12 rounds. he was in a fight. Kovalev on the other hand? he wasnt in no fight with Agnew.
Agnew went back and forth from defense to offense and just that lil bit had Kovalev sucking wind. 
HARLEM AL
Your broad loves me.....
Im still going with Stevenson. My only hope is ref dont allow to much fukkery with B hop
Anybody with activity will beat B hop(Chad, JT, Joe Cal)
Anybody with activity will beat B hop(Chad, JT, Joe Cal)
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Who is saying BHop is an unstoppable giant though? You nikkas are talking about Stevenson knocking dude out
do you know how far we have to go back to find footage of BHop being hurt but the same dude that couldn't get Fonfora out of there is going to stop Hopkins. 
I just said that if he loses it will be a close decision that's more in tune with reality and the shyt you guys are talking about.
breh, you not looking at things logically. hell no BHop wouldnt struggle with Fonfara...but thats because the style is different and BHop aint trying to KO Fonfara. Stevenson TRAINED to knock Fonfara the fucc out! thats why you saw a competitive fight. thats like comparing Floyd and Manny common opponents. One guy may look more spectacular because he is trying to hurt the opponent. the other not so much because he is trying to box his ears off and not take much return fire.
So he struggled because he was trying to knock him out? Sounds like excuses to me. We can literally apply that logic to all of his deficiencies.
You got yourself a nice set up here for the
stans. "He only struggled and lost to BHop because he was looking for the knockout."
Stevenson KO'd Dawson after Miranda KO'd Dawson in sparring and Ward was dropping Dawson left and right in their fight. It wasnt the same Chad Dawson that B-Hop fought
My thing is this, Bernard Hopkins is much more skilled than Fonfara, much better defensively, a much slicker boxer/puncher with stamina and a chin on him. Stevenson doesnt possess any of that. He's not "highly skilled", not a defensive fighter, apparently has low stamina which has been hidden due to his KO's early, and I dont trust his chin (even though Bernard aint gonna really test it, a properly placed punch will down Stevenson).
After this performance, it showed to me that without KO'ng his opponent, Stevenson has alot of weaknesses that an intelligent fighter like B-Hop can pick apart. There is nothing that Stevenson is better than B-Hop at, imo, except power and body work. I expect him to get thoroughly out-boxed by B-Hop
Im still going with Stevenson. My only hope is ref dont allow to much fukkery with B hop
Anybody with activity will beat B hop(Chad, JT, Joe Cal)
and JT didnt really have much activity against him...but Bernard was extra cautious with him because he was a big strong MW. so how do you think he will fight a big strong LHW who has been dropping and stopping world class opposition. Remember, before he fought Bernard...JT didnt stop any fighters above a D-level.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
If Ward/Stevenson gets made I'll make whatever bet you want avi/coli cash/ban
Ward would take Stevenson into deep waters and FEAST.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
nikkas propping up Fonfara now? It was supposed to be a showcase fight
But I should've expected this, yall the same brehs that tried to elevate John Molina Jr after Lucas Matthysse struggled to death with him
I don't feel like digging up the predictions from this thread but yeah you get the idea.