Fonfara is ranked NOW, he wasnt a top 10 RING ranked Light Heavyweight until AFTER the Struggleson fight
He's receiving the John Molina Jr treatment
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Fonfara is ranked NOW, he wasnt a top 10 RING ranked Light Heavyweight until AFTER the Struggleson fight
He's receiving the John Molina Jr treatment
dammit IBF why the fukk do you want to enforce molina vs bundrage mandatory? 
we all know that molina is the superior boxer against k-9. No one wants to see that. i want to see my boy spoil the more talented, hard punching, and undefeated charlo.
we all know that molina is the superior boxer against k-9. No one wants to see that. i want to see my boy spoil the more talented, hard punching, and undefeated charlo.
I dont think ill be able to stay awakedammit IBF why the fukk do you want to enforce molina vs bundrage mandatory?
firemanBk
The Manslayer
RING #4 LHW with absolutely no victories worth mentioning. Shumenov isHow was Bernard Hopkins, a Showtime exclusive fighter, even gonna fight Kovalev....a HBO exclusive fighter?
Secondly, Fonfara wasnt even ranked in the top 10 at Light Heavyweight and "Struggleson" had problems with him in a showcase fight
Bernard Hopkins, at 49 years old, destroyed the #4 RING ranked Light Heavyweight and the WBA Champion in his fight with no problems
I think Ward and B-Hop may be alike, making easy work of Champions and then watch the opponent get called a bum afterwards
Explain to me what this guys' great victories are and no the Campillo travesty does not count. I'll wait
Meanwhile, Fonfara was unranked even though he actually didn't need a disgusting robbery to beat Campillo. Just a nasty right hand to the solar plexus
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ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
Wasn't fat Dan accusing of bhop ducking Stevenson?? N caused Bhop to verbally abuse his lard ass
Now its Bhop licking his chops
Only in boxing
Boxing is full of flip flopping triangle theory ass nikkas.
RING #4 LHW with absolutely no victories worth mentioning. Shumenov is
Explain to me what this guys' great victories are and no the Campillo travesty does not count. I'll wait
Meanwhile, Fonfara was unranked even though he actually didn't need a disgusting robbery to beat Campillo. Just a nasty right hand to the solar plexus
Are we gonna act like Fonfara wasnt losing the fight to Campillo when the fight was ended?
Im not about to argue over no gatekeeper because Stevenson got dropped and outboxed at some points by him
Bottomline, and the facts are, 49 years old B-Hop beat the Champion and RING #4 ranked Light Heavyweight. Stevenson showed some undeniable flaws that a very good boxer like B-Hop can easily exploit.
If any off yall feel confident about Stevenson beating Bernard, we can put some coli cash on the line
firemanBk
The Manslayer
I know Campillo was ahead before the KO. My point was that Fonfara still actually won the fight on his terms and didn't have to rely on a horrible decision to win unlike the fraud Shumenov. The fact that a paper champ like Shumenov was ranked as high as 4 tells you all you need to know about rankings and why they suck dikk.Are we gonna act like Fonfara wasnt losing the fight to Campillo when the fight was ended?
Im not about to argue over no gatekeeper because Stevenson got dropped and outboxed at some points by him
Bottomline, and the facts are, 49 years old B-Hop beat the Champion and RING #4 ranked Light Heavyweight. Stevenson showed some undeniable flaws that a very good boxer like B-Hop can easily exploit.
If any off yall feel confident about Stevenson beating Bernard, we can put some coli cash on the line
You think Bernard is gonna win, fine
But don't act like
cause Hopkins beat up on some scrub that had a alphabet soup belt as if it's some indicator of how Hopkins would do against Adonis.
How much you wanna bet?Are we gonna act like Fonfara wasnt losing the fight to Campillo when the fight was ended?
Im not about to argue over no gatekeeper because Stevenson got dropped and outboxed at some points by him
Bottomline, and the facts are, 49 years old B-Hop beat the Champion and RING #4 ranked Light Heavyweight. Stevenson showed some undeniable flaws that a very good boxer like B-Hop can easily exploit.
If any off yall feel confident about Stevenson beating Bernard, we can put some coli cash on the line
I know Campillo was ahead before the KO. My point was that Fonfara still actually won the fight on his terms and didn't have to rely on a horrible decision to win unlike the fraud Shumenov. The fact that a paper champ like Shumenov was ranked as high as 4 tells you all you need to know about rankings and why they suck dikk.
You think Bernard is gonna win, fine
But don't act like
Im not comparing Shumenov to Adonis at all.
Im comparing the FLAWS that Stevenson exposed and using my boxing knowledge to see that what he showed me (lack of defense, stamina is EXTREMELY questionable, chin is suspect, footwork lacking, etc) and realizing that a great boxer such as Bernard Hopkins can exploit all that in their fight.
It's not even a question to me anymore....Im guaranteeing a Bernard Hopkins victory and if anyone disagrees, let's put up the coli cash when the time comes
You have $95,000 in coli cash.....I'll put up $95,000 in coli cash.
Me: Bernard Hopkins is gonna beat Adonis Stevenson.
You: Adonis Stevenson will beat Bernard Hopkins
We have a bet.
It's not even a question to me anymore....Im guaranteeing a Bernard Hopkins victory and if anyone disagrees, let's put up the coli cash when the time comes
Done.
Adonis Stevenson wins but gets brutally exposed by Andrzej Fonfara
By Ivan Ivanov | Published May 25, 2014 | 212 Comments
Adonis Stevenson won via a UD on Saturday night against Andrzej Fonfara but lost credibility as “The Superman”. Perhaps he did enough to win beyond doubt and he knocked down Fonfara twice but he struggled in the second half of bout and went down himself.
Fonfara is an unheralded and light punching prize fighter but he has several years of high level amateur experience as a cadet. Amateur boxing usually instills good technique and steady skills through methodical coaching. Fonfara showed resilience and good form which helped him to survive the initial onslaught and stand his ground in the second half of the bout.
Adonis Stevenson not only disappointed fans, he was exposed and out boxed at times by an average boxer. Despite his concussive power and good chin, Stevenson proved to be a one-dimensional fighter with rudimentary boxing technique and fragmentary skills. He had only one gear and very spurious defense. He got away with it initially when he was fresh and focused but ran out of ideas when he could not get an early stoppage. His opponent was disciplined and Stevenson was uncoordinated and sluggish. He only relied on single backhand power punches and could not throw more than two shots at a time effectively. He was essentially a “one-armed bandit” and had nothing else but a big left hand.
“The Superman” would only fight at long and mid-range and his idea of combination punching was to load up and throw a big shot, check to see how the opponent was doing and then throw another one. His jab (if any) was a lazy slow motion effort that started from the waist and ended up there. Nothing was coming behind the jab, he saved his left cross for spectacular single shot assaults. His idea of a double jab was to throw one in this round and another in the next round. He acted as if the “one-two” was a risky long flurry.
His balance, footwork and head position were unacceptable for an elite boxer. Whenever he threw a shot, he shifted his weight too far forward and lost balance. He worked form flat feet and lost balance in defense as well. His defense was to simply back away and freeze after the second shot. He backed away too far to be able to counter and his feet were out of position for him to punch at all while going backwards.
When the opponent threw combinations Stevenson would take one huge backward step, then freeze and close his eyes with his mouth open. He kept his arms low and telegraphed his best shot by lowering the hand further to get momentum, bringing the shoulder back and finally firing. His game was a one way street, no pace variation and angle shifts and he moved mainly in the wrong direction. He was easy to hit and countered only if Fonfara missed, otherwise he closed his eyes like a beginner wishing the punches away while being off balance and off guard.
Stevenson’s body movement was stiff and his hand defenses were non-existent. Being flat footed all the time he did not use slips and ducks effectively and his speed was limited. When he had his opponent in trouble he just did not know how to finish him, no combination punching and not enough speed and agility to apply his power at close range or through tight defense.
His rhythm and feet position were strange for a high level fighter, he needed to be flat footed and immobile to throw a shot. Moving and punching of his toes, slipping and pivoting and throwing shots, feinting and hitting seemed to be outside his skill set. His guard was down all the time, he bent forward and his defense was his offense. He deterred his opponent with his power but he was laughably easy to hit. Stevenson’s coach was so frustrated he started demonstrating footwork and moves with real time speed b/n rounds 11 and 12 – he was 15 years late for that.
Rigid and out of rhythm, Adonis Stevenson seemed to be lacking a lot of boxing basics. There was no boxing fluidity in his movement, perhaps he did too much weight training but he simply did not look like a boxer last night. He should avoid Sergey Kovalev as if he has the measles and he should cross to the other side of the street if he meets Hopkins. Andre Ward and Gennady Golovkin would easily outclass “The Superman” any given day of the week.
Read more at http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2014/adonis-stevenson-wins-but-gets-brutally-exposed-by-andrzej-fonfara/#JG7DSsX8MtKYiUMd.99
I felt almost the exact same way about Adonis Stevenson watching the fight, which is why I said Bernard Hopkins was somewhere rubbing his hands together like Birdman in anticipation of this fight
By Ivan Ivanov | Published May 25, 2014 | 212 Comments
Adonis Stevenson won via a UD on Saturday night against Andrzej Fonfara but lost credibility as “The Superman”. Perhaps he did enough to win beyond doubt and he knocked down Fonfara twice but he struggled in the second half of bout and went down himself.
Fonfara is an unheralded and light punching prize fighter but he has several years of high level amateur experience as a cadet. Amateur boxing usually instills good technique and steady skills through methodical coaching. Fonfara showed resilience and good form which helped him to survive the initial onslaught and stand his ground in the second half of the bout.
Adonis Stevenson not only disappointed fans, he was exposed and out boxed at times by an average boxer. Despite his concussive power and good chin, Stevenson proved to be a one-dimensional fighter with rudimentary boxing technique and fragmentary skills. He had only one gear and very spurious defense. He got away with it initially when he was fresh and focused but ran out of ideas when he could not get an early stoppage. His opponent was disciplined and Stevenson was uncoordinated and sluggish. He only relied on single backhand power punches and could not throw more than two shots at a time effectively. He was essentially a “one-armed bandit” and had nothing else but a big left hand.
“The Superman” would only fight at long and mid-range and his idea of combination punching was to load up and throw a big shot, check to see how the opponent was doing and then throw another one. His jab (if any) was a lazy slow motion effort that started from the waist and ended up there. Nothing was coming behind the jab, he saved his left cross for spectacular single shot assaults. His idea of a double jab was to throw one in this round and another in the next round. He acted as if the “one-two” was a risky long flurry.
His balance, footwork and head position were unacceptable for an elite boxer. Whenever he threw a shot, he shifted his weight too far forward and lost balance. He worked form flat feet and lost balance in defense as well. His defense was to simply back away and freeze after the second shot. He backed away too far to be able to counter and his feet were out of position for him to punch at all while going backwards.
When the opponent threw combinations Stevenson would take one huge backward step, then freeze and close his eyes with his mouth open. He kept his arms low and telegraphed his best shot by lowering the hand further to get momentum, bringing the shoulder back and finally firing. His game was a one way street, no pace variation and angle shifts and he moved mainly in the wrong direction. He was easy to hit and countered only if Fonfara missed, otherwise he closed his eyes like a beginner wishing the punches away while being off balance and off guard.
Stevenson’s body movement was stiff and his hand defenses were non-existent. Being flat footed all the time he did not use slips and ducks effectively and his speed was limited. When he had his opponent in trouble he just did not know how to finish him, no combination punching and not enough speed and agility to apply his power at close range or through tight defense.
His rhythm and feet position were strange for a high level fighter, he needed to be flat footed and immobile to throw a shot. Moving and punching of his toes, slipping and pivoting and throwing shots, feinting and hitting seemed to be outside his skill set. His guard was down all the time, he bent forward and his defense was his offense. He deterred his opponent with his power but he was laughably easy to hit. Stevenson’s coach was so frustrated he started demonstrating footwork and moves with real time speed b/n rounds 11 and 12 – he was 15 years late for that.
Rigid and out of rhythm, Adonis Stevenson seemed to be lacking a lot of boxing basics. There was no boxing fluidity in his movement, perhaps he did too much weight training but he simply did not look like a boxer last night. He should avoid Sergey Kovalev as if he has the measles and he should cross to the other side of the street if he meets Hopkins. Andre Ward and Gennady Golovkin would easily outclass “The Superman” any given day of the week.
Read more at http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2014/adonis-stevenson-wins-but-gets-brutally-exposed-by-andrzej-fonfara/#JG7DSsX8MtKYiUMd.99
I felt almost the exact same way about Adonis Stevenson watching the fight, which is why I said Bernard Hopkins was somewhere rubbing his hands together like Birdman in anticipation of this fight
That is a whole lot of typing just to point out Stevenson was gassed. 95% of the things people are claiming exposed him can be chalked up to the fact that dude needs to work on his stamina and conditioning.