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Yup. Shoulda said fukk you, ppv aint happening. Then been like :jawalrus:

At that point in time you know damn well you hold all the cards and floyd can suck a dikk. You lose nothing by refusing to fight with your approved gloves 1 day before the fight except money.

Floyd loses 40 mill + and his reputation. Who is buying a fight after they cancel one on the day of the fight over "gloves" :mjlol:

Chino shoulda said 10 mill or :manny:

Agreed. That was a lemme call your bluff moment right there.
 

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Hype :camby: I'm one of the few on here who DON'T shyt on Bradley. Don't catch feelings because Crawford isn't near his level. Start and end of it.

catch feelings?? thats like Canelo stan being mad 4 years ago because Cory Spinks was JMW champ or some shyt. :camby:

they are not the same age nor do they have the same career trajectory.

at the same age Bradley's best opponent was ****. Crawford destroyed Gamboa and was never close to going down. Bradley nearly got decapitated in the first round and got KD again at the end of the fight. if **** werent so lazy, he'd handed him his first loss.

135 Gamboa still>>>>>>>>>>>than **** that went back and forth with Ricardo Torres....and lost to Kaizer Mabuza :snoop:

here is the real end of it though....you are the only one that dont shyt on Bradley because everyone else knows what he is. he is an overachieving blue-collar type fighter.

he is NOT nor will he ever be the best WW in the world. he has no problem with this either. dont speak Floyd name and re-up with TR just because you think you can beat Manny again....which backfired. you talkin a lot of shyt for this dude who really is not comfortable fighting outside of TR circle jerks.

I am sorry, Manny off peds aint the puncher he used to be and if Provo could hurt him like that....I feel confident that Thurman would get in his ass....probably Porter too.
 

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Where did this myth he has no defense start?:heh:


Maidana and Malignaggi BOTH said he's hard to hit, both only landed 28% (Marcos) and 25% (Paulie) of their punches against him, Maidana just so happened to have the power to make the ones he landed over the top count.


He has defense, he doesnt USE footwork so to say it's horrible is kinda crazy....he stands in front of you and likes to walk down his opponent. He hasnt shown any really footwork, or movement, to say it's neither good nor bad. I think it's counter productive, because if he BOXED, he'd be much better, but he likes to stand there:manny:


Another thing, B fighters dont have average skills....C fighters do.


Broner is not just average. He's better than average.

his defense is leaky. he has good reflexes...thats why he is hard to hit. fundamentally, he is not very good. its kinda like saying a basketball player who gets a lot of steals or blocks is a good defensive player when that couldnt be further from the truth. without those cat-like reflexes as a 25 year old he'd be in for some serious naps. the shoulder-roll is not for him. not against upper echelon. it works on Rees and Demarco....but if it dont work on Maidana...there is a problem.

when Maidana was throwing that lil fake uppercut...Broner tried to judge it with reflexes instead of putting his damn hands up :what:
if Broner was a superior counterpuncher then I could see that style working better for him. but to stand and wait to deliver, he takes too many shots.

I would say is is a B- defensive fighter due to his reflexes.

remember, Zab was supposed to be Sweet Pea with "pop" but Zab was same way....his reflexes got him out of trouble mostly. his fundamental defense was pretty average....and his dad with his kickboxing ass :beli: never really taught him the right way. they had Pernell for one fight and let ego get in the way. against Cotto, he fought one of the dumbest defensive fights I have seen just by circling into Cotto's power and away from his own.
 

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Was Gamboa not popped for them Arod roids in Miami??:rudy:

N the Hometown fighter blows up to jmw....looked like death at the weigh in

The commission is like nah we cool no need to test these nikkas:aicmon:
This was my thought. Terrence Crawford is the TR fighter and the one HBO is pushing.
Obviously by Gamboa saying that, it appeared to my interpretation he was wondering, since he has been popped before he was probably waiting for that test...who benefited by not being tested? Implying Crawford?

No fire yet...but sounds like smoke signals were being sent up.
 

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here is the real end of it though....you are the only one that dont shyt on Bradley because everyone else knows what he is. he is an overachieving blue-collar type fighter.

he is NOT nor will he ever be the best WW in the world. he has no problem with this either. dont speak Floyd name and re-up with TR just because you think you can beat Manny again....which backfired. you talkin a lot of shyt for this dude who really is not comfortable fighting outside of TR circle jerks.

I am sorry, Manny off peds aint the puncher he used to be and if Provo could hurt him like that....I feel confident that Thurman would get in his ass....probably Porter too.


:banderas:


:whew:
 

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Breh.........Terence Crawford said it himself:mindblown:


Why are you even arguing it, when your fighter said:


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So, Crawford himself thinks he was fighting a blown up featherweight, but we're supposed to just dismiss it?:dwillhuh:



That's exactly what it was. Yes, Crawford got a good victory, but it is what it is. Let's not act like Gamboa was a legitimate 135lber

thats how yall see it. if you check my posts....I dont think you will see me harping so much on weight. I never said Maidana victory wasnt shyt. is Broner a natural 147lber? if thats the case, dont make a big deal about JMM loss to a naturally bigger Bradley. since its mostly about weight now. the only time recently I said something about weight was about Porter being to strong for Paulie because Porter came down in weight to win a title and Paulie came up. and when JCC fought Vera the 1st time.

I know Crawford was bigger but he is not Randall Bailey or somebody. he is a boxer. and he outboxed dude, he didnt over power him. Broner got out boxed. so did JMM. to me, if weight is the MAIN factor then I will speak about it. other than that I give credit where is due if a fighter actually used skills to win. these arent handicapped fights.

I guess its cool for Canelo to call up 140lb Josesito and beat him within an inch of his life but then we didnt hear none of that weight talk when he quit against Floyd. :sas2:
 

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his defense is leaky. he has good reflexes...thats why he is hard to hit. fundamentally, he is not very good. its kinda like saying a basketball player who gets a lot of steals or blocks is a good defensive player when that couldnt be further from the truth. without those cat-like reflexes as a 25 year old he'd be in for some serious naps. the shoulder-roll is not for him. not against upper echelon. it works on Rees and Demarco....but if it dont work on Maidana...there is a problem.

when Maidana was throwing that lil fake uppercut...Broner tried to judge it with reflexes instead of putting his damn hands up :what:
if Broner was a superior counterpuncher then I could see that style working better for him. but to stand and wait to deliver, he takes too many shots.

I would say is is a B- defensive fighter due to his reflexes.

remember, Zab was supposed to be Sweet Pea with "pop" but Zab was same way....his reflexes got him out of trouble mostly. his fundamental defense was pretty average....and his dad with his kickboxing ass :beli: never really taught him the right way. they had Pernell for one fight and let ego get in the way. against Cotto, he fought one of the dumbest defensive fights I have seen just by circling into Cotto's power and away from his own.


I feel the same way.

He's about a B/B - defensively, because he's hard to hit.....but he doesn't keep his hands up at all times, which is exactly why Maidana (who only landed 28% of his punches) was able to make the ones he DID land count:snoop:

I'd rather him go back to his prior defense with both hands up high to his head or start working with Floyd Sr to get the Shoulder Roll correct.

Stafford never taught Broner the Shoulder Roll, he just started using it (which is why his version has flaws in it), so if he's gonna continue on with it, he needs to change trainers and get with one who knows it in and out
 
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