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We did over 10k for the Kessler fight and 8,500k for the Dawson fight with both held in Oakland:sas1:

Golovkin just set his highest attendance mark with 8,572 at MSG against Geale:sas2:


Hell, SOG did 8100 against Allan Green......but GGG is a bigger draw though:mjpls:
ward drawing tht cuz its his hometown.... im gonna say tht GGG is more famous in the US.
 

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3 men have dominated the division in a 40 year span without no real threats or MW nemesis, in Hagler, Bhop and Sergio, and Sergio was a bum ass nikka...................

this is true. as much as I respect BHop and know that his 20 defenses are nothing to sneeze at...the closest thing he had to nemesis' was Echols and Allen. the best natural MWs he faced were Mercado and a green Glen Johnson. the best names he beat were Brown, Trinidad and Oscar....guys who had not too long came from WW. he had solid wins against Holmes, Joppy and Eastman but those were B level fighters at best.

but just think, some of those defenses came against Syd Vanderpool who Lacy stopped, Carl Daniels another jmw, and Morrade Hakkar :scusthov:

Hagler actually dominated some good opposition, it wasnt a golden era of fighters he was facing but much better than any other MW champion since Monzon.

Sergio was really a place holder. in the right place at the right time. had PWill gotten to Pavlik first, Sergio may have never become a star and history as we know it could be dramatically different.

GGG, if he has the goods, he has the chance to prove it. but not by fighting the likes of Geale. Geale really aint shyt if you wanna get technical. he beat a couple of decent fighters. we think higher of guys sometimes because they are solid all around or durable.

TCraw just beat Gamboa, but all you nikkas harp on is how little Gamboa is. but even though Crawford was favored against Burns and Gamboa, there wasnt any certainty he would win. Likewise with Swift against Matthysee. In fact, Swift was the underdog. I aint gonna say Broner bit off more than he could chew against Maidana but he just wasnt taking him serious enough. even though he was a big favorite.....people questioned how well he would take Maidana's punch.

there are many more examples but those are recent. no one thought Geale was gonna beat GGG. :comeon:

my point is, GGG may be a great in the making but he will never get there if he doesnt face guys that people think can beat him. I know, I know....bu bu but Floyd dont either. Floyd done kicked so much ass over 16 plus years...he gets a pass.

if these dudes aint steppin up to fight real threats to them then it aint no use in following the hype. if GGG cant get Cotto for starters then he needs to truly clean out that division and seek out JCCjr or Ward. unless he wants to be another BHop and I dont think he wants to stay in a division for years fighting mediocre name after name.
 

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Move that goal post :sas1:

Ward/Froch was in the great state of New Jersey :sas1:

Where have all of #Shookboys fights been recently? :sas1:

#SOGGang :umad:
i stand by and say GGG is more famous in the us than andre
 

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i stand by and say GGG is more famous in the us than andre


That's your opinion friend but I don't think a nikka who is having empty arena matches is as popular as the.....




The Olympic Gold Medal Winning :banderas:


Super Six Tournament Winning :whew:


168lb Division Cleaning :sas1:


Generic EuroCac Destroying :merchant:


Light Heavyweight Champion Defeating :wow:



2014 ESPY Fighter of the Year™ Nominee :lawd: (No GGG on that nomination list :sas1: damn pleighboy where that popularity at :sas2:)


#2 Pound for Pound fighter in the world. :ohlawd:


The Greatest Super Middleweight of All Time :blessed:




Andre "Son of God" Ward :king:

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#SOGGang
 

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That's your opinion friend but I don't think a nikka who is having empty arena matches is as popular as the.....




The Olympic Gold Medal Winning :banderas:


Super Six Tournament Winning :whew:


168lb Division Cleaning :sas1:


Generic EuroCac Destroying :merchant:


Light Heavyweight Champion Defeating :wow:



2014 ESPY Fighter of the Year™ Nominee :lawd: (No GGG on that nomination list :sas1: damn pleighboy where that popularity at :sas2:)


#2 Pound for Pound fighter in the world. :ohlawd:


The Greatest Super Middleweight of All Time :blessed:




Andre "Son of God" Ward :king:

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#SOGGang
GGG is still more popular in the US
 

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GGG is still more popular in the US

We did over 10k for the Kessler fight and 8,500k for the Dawson fight with both held in Oakland:sas1:

Golovkin just set his highest attendance mark with 8,572 at MSG against Geale:sas2:


Hell, SOG did 8100 against Allan Green......but GGG is a bigger draw though:mjpls:


In case you missed it friend. :sas1:
 

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let me know when ward goes to msg as the main star and sells.

This was his first fight outside the little msg arena and #shookboys feeling themselves :dead:

If I wasn't watching RAW i would pull the #s from GGG's fights outside of NYC but instead I'll tell you to look them up and feel that self ether. :ahh:

hbo flat out told them nikkas they couldn't film at some of these places because they were too small :russ:
 

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if these dudes aint steppin up to fight real threats to them then it aint no use in following the hype. if GGG cant get Cotto for starters then he needs to truly clean out that division and seek out JCCjr or Ward. unless he wants to be another BHop and I dont think he wants to stay in a division for years fighting mediocre name after name.
168 is a deeper division, but the same could be said for Ward right now. At 168 if he continues there, Ward basically from now on is fighting C level guys. In order to stay in that division he has been trying to call out GGG (who still is at 160 and for all the talk hasn't moved up for even one fight) and JCC who can't make his mind up about anything. Ward can keep on fighting C level guys (or not fighting at all) or move up where there is a B level fighter who wants to be an A in Kovalev.

IMO, GGG gets a fair amount of leniency due to the fact he wants to clean out 160 and he still has a lot to do there. The big fights for legacy will come down the road. :manny:
The Ward talk works both ways. GGG doesn't have a contract signed and presented to Ward like Chavez...but Ward doesn't have a contract in talks vs anybody...his legal situation is affecting his career and he blames it on guys ducking him. :comeon:
 

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This was his first fight outside the little msg arena and #shookboys feeling themselves :dead:

If I wasn't watching RAW i would pull the #s from GGG's fights outside of NYC but instead I'll tell you to look them up and feel that self ether. :ahh:

hbo flat out told them nikkas they couldn't film at some of these places because they were too small :russ:
those are the current numbers... they usually grow with kos
 

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those are the current numbers... they usually grow with kos

Are you arguing that he IS more popular or he is going to be in the future because the current #s don't back up what you're saying friend.

Now will he be in the future most likely, nikkas like Floyd, Rigo, Ward aren't really popular unless they make heel turns but to say that he is currently more popular is :camby:
 

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Are you arguing that he IS more popular or he is going to be in the future because the current #s don't back up what you're saying friend.

Now will he be in the future most likely, nikkas like Floyd, Rigo, Ward aren't really popular unless they make heel turns but to say that he is currently more popular is :camby:
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