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[Axum Ezana]

40 Cal had moved up to 175 by then, had already dominated the 2 best SMWs (prime Jeff Lacy and then prime Mikkel Kessler later and took both their 0s) at the time of his retirement...plus he was 37. No need to fight on against young pups when you already proved you were the best in the division twice

so pac don't have to fight craw then. he only needs to beat jmm(which he has) and most importantly may

 

[patscorpio]

Have a panel with whoever is down to make they lists once a month (no more then 10 members)

1. On your P4P list = 10 pts
2. On your P4P list = 9 pts
3. On your P4P list = 8 pts

So on N so forth

Someone has to be in charge of the thread N tallying the points... The 10 Boxers with the most points would be

The Colis official P4P list

Pat can sticky it N P4P discussions would be in that thread

im down with stickying the thread if anyone wants to create it...you can do the tallying up at the end of the month

 

[The axe murderer]

i see what pat was saying.

Floyd is a terrible promoter. Oscar coke boy way better.

AB seems better too

 

[patscorpio]

i see what pat was saying.

Floyd is a terrible promoter. Oscar coke boy way better.

it really is a shame...in the past he's bigged up other fighters (spence, broner) more than his own camp..he did try with tank before all the fukkery between them came to a head...but tank is going for his first world title and jack is going into a title unification this month...not one gotdamn mention...its also hilarious when you see the casuals spout off TMT but cant name a fighter on there

 

[patscorpio]

AB seems better too

which is surprising as all hell..broner can seriously make some bread if he keeps that together

 

[The axe murderer]

it really is a shame...in the past he's bigged up other fighters (spence, broner) more than his own camp..he did try with tank before all the fukkery between them came to a head...but tank is going for his first world title and jack is going into a title unification this month...not one gotdamn mention...its also hilarious when you see the casuals spout off TMT but cant name a fighter on there

Man I really hope TMT don't mess with Shakur's Stevenson's progress

 

[Newzz]

so pac don't have to fight craw then. he only needs to beat jmm(which he has) and most importantly may

When has Pacquiao proved he was the best fighter at Welterweight?


Last time I recall he faced Floyd....he was clearly defeated. And last time he faced JMM, he decided it was time for a power nap

 

[Black_Jesus]

When has Pacquiao proved he was the best fighter at Welterweight?


Last time I recall he faced Floyd....he was clearly defeated. And last time he faced JMM, he decided it was time for a power nap

When he beat Cotto..

After beating Bradley for the 3rd time

 

[reservoirdogs]

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[Newzz]

When he beat Cotto..

Oh....you mean back 8 years ago? We got to go back all the way in the archives to 2009.......and it's 2017?

40 Cal beat Mikkel Kessler at SMW in 2007 & retired in 2009.

Pacquiao beat Cotto in 2009.........and is still fighting in 2017.


Secondly, Cotto wasnt even considered the 1st or 2nd best Welterweight in 2009 by the way. That distinction belonged to Shane Mosley & Floyd Mayweather, iirc, at the time that Manny Pacquiao fought Cotto.

After beating Bradley for the 3rd time

Was Bradley the considered the best Welterweight or at least the 2nd best Welterweight?


No?


So then how by beating him in April 2016 do you get the title of "best Welterweight" when Bradley himself isn't even considered in discussions as "best Welterweight today"?


Joe Calzaghe beat the guy who people thought was better than him at SMW, and was ranked right under him as RING Champ (Kessler was #1 by RING)

 

[Black_Jesus]

Oh....you mean back 8 years ago? We go to go back all the way to 2009 and it's 2017?

40 Cal beat Mikkel Kessler at SMW in 2007 & retired in 2009.

Pacquiao beat Cotto in 2009.........and is still fighting in 2017.




Was Bradley the considered the best Welterweight or at least the 2nd best Welterweight?


No?


So then how by beating him in April 2016 do you get the title of "best Welterweight" when Bradley himself isn't even considered in discussions as "best Welterweight today"?


Joe Calzaghe beat the guy who people thought was better than him at SMW......and did it twice

this nikka @Newzz really on that fukk shyt this morning...

I wouldn't give a fukk if it was 1999 when Pac beat Cotto... At the end of the day.. Pac proved he was the best in the division TWICE, PERIOD.. You asked when was this and I answered your question

As far as right now.. Pac is currently the most recent LINEAL champ.. Why is that?? Because he beat Bradley who was considered the best after Floyd retired..

Manny Pacquiao - BoxRec

• World Flyweight Title (December 1998-September 1999)
• World Featherweight Title (November 2003-March 2005)
• World Junior Lightweight Title (March 2008-July 2008)
• World Junior Welterweight Title (May 2009-July 2010)
• World Welterweight Title [1] (April 2016; Retired)

RANKINGS | Transnational Boxing Rankings Board


If Manny aint the best right now.. Who is??
A nikka that beat one of Manny sparring partners??

 

[Newzz]

this nikka @Newzz really on that fukk shyt this morning...

I wouldn't give a fukk if it was 1999 when Pac beat Cotto... At the end of the day.. Pac proved he was the best in the division TWICE, PERIOD.. You asked when was this and I answered your question

You cant be the best Welterweight when Floyd Mayweather literally beat Juan Manuel Marquez, easily, 2 months before Pacquiao even faced Cotto. How do you beat someone ranked UNDER Floyd...but be considered the best?


You mind showing me where was Cotto ever ranked RING Champion, RING #1 Welterweight, or RING #2 Welterweight at the time Pacquiao fought him?


No?


Then stop it


Manny, Mosely, and Floyd were the top 3 Welterweights. Cotto wasn't.

As far as right now.. Pac is currently the most recent LINEAL champ.. Why is that?? Because he beat Bradley who was considered the best after Floyd retired..

Manny Pacquiao - BoxRec

• World Flyweight Title (December 1998-September 1999)
• World Featherweight Title (November 2003-March 2005)
• World Junior Lightweight Title (March 2008-July 2008)
• World Junior Welterweight Title (May 2009-July 2010)
• World Welterweight Title [1] (April 2016; Retired)

RANKINGS | Transnational Boxing Rankings Board

Again, I dont recall Bradley being considered the best Welterweight after Floyd retired.


You chose to post "Don't call me breh"'s ranking list...but yet, I don't recall you ever using TBRB rankings previously. Why is this choice now?



Especially since you called TBRB "fraudulent" just a little over a month ago to me directly

Who's disregarding their divisional rankings?? And why does it matter that GoldenBoy bought the magazine?? The rules for holding the RING belt and being ranked in their divisional rankings are still > any of the alphabet sanctions

Obviously the fighters themselves have chosen RING as the true chanpion since they chose to rock the RING strap and the ones that do are considered the best or have beat the top ranked best in the division.. fukk how fraudulent ass Boxrec or TBRB feels about it..

Be honest with me breh.....is it because Pacquiao is ranked #4 by RING

If Manny aint the best right now.. Who is??
A nikka that beat one of Manny sparring partners??

"When has Pacquiao proved he was the best fighter at Welterweight?"


That's the question. Your answer is 8 years ago


Problem with that is, unless you can show me where Cotto was ranked one of the top 3 WWs at the time of the fight vs Pacquiao, then there's no comparision

40 Cal proved that he was the best in his division in 2007 when, as the RING Champion he faced the RING #1 ranked challenger (and consensus 2nd best SMW period)...beat him, moved up for a year in 2008, and then retired a year later in 2009.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Dope fight

Zlat will cause problems for young mikey.

 

[Newzz]

This will make a good co-main on a Showtime/PBC card

 

[The axe murderer]

Dope fight

Zlat will cause problems for young mikey.

Yeah he has some serious power. That shot he put burns down with in the opening rounds was quick. I think he will bring the best out of Mikey. Mikey has TNT for hands man. Some of his shots that get ppl on gazelle legs he doesn't even look like he is trying. shyt ain't normal