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Adonis Stevenson: Kovalev looked like a 4 round fighter vs. Ward!

By Ryan Burton

There certainly isn't any love lost between WBC light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson (28-1) and former WBA/IBF/WBO champion Sergey Kovalev (30-1). The two men have mocked each other for years in the media while their attempts to unify all four major belts to produce an undisputed champion have failed for various reasons.

Kovalev had the biggest fight of his career this past November when he lost a disputed unanimous decision to Andre Ward in Las Vegas.

Kovalev started off fast in the fight and sent Ward to the canvas in the second round. The second half of the fight was a different story as Ward had found success fighting on the inside and Kovalev's energy level appeared to fade.

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Stevenson wasn't very impressed with Kovalev's performance.

"I saw the fight. Kovalev was tired. First of all, Kovalev was tired after four rounds. He looked like a four round fighter," said Stevenson.

"He fought Andre Ward and not (Bernard) Hopkins who is old and doesn't move as much. It's not the same thing. He fought Andre Ward and I saw Andre Ward win the fight."


Stevenson said that he noticed a drop in Kovalev's power in the second half of the fight and believes that was a big factor in Ward's comeback.

He believes that Kovalev would have to maintain that same high energy level throughout the fight to have a chance to defeat Ward but doesn't believe it is possible for the Russian fighter.

"Boxing is not only the first few rounds. If it goes all 12 rounds then it is all of the rounds. Kovalev talked a lot of sh*t that he was going to knockout Andre Ward and do this and do that and when he got in the ring it was different.

"You see that Kovalev was tired after four rounds. His legs were tired. I think Andre Ward saw that he was tired and saw that the power wasn't the same. If you can punch the same way after 12 rounds maybe it is different but he couldn't do that," Stevenson told BoxingScene.com.


As for Stevenson's next fight, he said an announcement is forthcoming.

"We will be announcing my next fight pretty soon. In the next couple weeks we will know. I am very interested to fight in New York, California or Las Vegas," said Stevenson.

Long Island, New York native Jone Smith Jr. (23-1) who defeated Bernard Hopkins in December, has been mentioned as a possible opponent.

- See more at: Adonis Stevenson: Kovalev looked like a 4 round fighter vs. Ward! - Boxing News



I agree 100%.


Same fight I saw:manny:
 

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Floyd still gets credit for beating an undefeated Canelo, but it still takes some luster off the win if GGG steamrolls and KOs him.
I don't really see how considering floyd completely dominated canelo. little g steamrolling canelo to a ko is basically the equivalent to floyd giving canelo a 12 round boxing lesson. floyd gets decisions. little g gets ko's. to me, that floyd performance vs canelo might just be my top floyd performance ever. dude really channeled pretty boy floyd in that fight. I mean dude beat the shyt out of canelo something serious. which left me all the more impressed with how canelo never quit or gave up. dude kept trying to the very last minute. that's when I knew he was destined for greatness. I don't think there's anything little g could do to canelo that could take the luster off that floyd performance. the shyt was godly.



shyt. even speaking in hypotheticals, it's hilarious to even consider little g steamrolling canelo :mjlol:
 

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I don't really see how considering floyd completely dominated canelo. little g steamrolling canelo to a ko is basically the equivalent to floyd giving canelo a 12 round boxing lesson. floyd gets decisions. little g gets ko's. to me, that floyd performance vs canelo might just be my top floyd performance ever. dude really channeled pretty boy floyd in that fight. I mean dude beat the shyt out of canelo something serious. which left me all the more impressed with how canelo never quit or gave up. dude kept trying to the very last minute. that's when I knew he was destined for greatness. I don't think there's anything little g could do to canelo that could take the luster off that floyd performance. the shyt was godly.



shyt. even speaking in hypotheticals, it's hilarious to even consider little g steamrolling canelo :mjlol:

Canelo wasn't in his prime when he fought Floyd....you know it and I do too. I even said it back then:

Canelo is NOT in his prime:ufdup:


When's the last time ANY athlete was in their prime at 22 years old? Canelo will be in his physical/mental prime at around 25-26 years old which is why Floyd must fight him now. Canelo is only gonna get better and better while Floyd is gonna get older and older.
Im not speaking for anyone else though.

I've always said Canelo at 23 was too young to face Floyd...he wasn't even in his prime. My posts on that are documented on this very website.

I still don't think Canelo beats him, but he's better now than he was then.



Canelo IS currently in his prime and has faced better opposition in order to be better prepared for GGG, then he was to prepare for Floyd.:yeshrug:

If GGG steamrolls & KOs a 27 year old version of him, that win is going to be held in higher esteem to me than Floyd giving him a Boxing clinic at 23 years old with Austin Trout as his best opp because I believe Canelo is better TODAY than he was when he faced Floyd:manny:
 

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@((ReFleX)) matter of fact breh, Canelo should start calling Floyd out for Mexican Independence Day since Floyd is tip-toeing the retirement/not retired line now.


Canelo deserves every chance to run that back imo....he was 23, had to weigh in at 152lbs, and had Trout as the best he ever faced up until that point.


I would like to see how Canelo does now after having faced Floyd, Khan, Lara, and Cotto...fights in which he's now showing tremendous growth in actual "skill" after facing all of em. He doesn't even gas anymore:yeshrug:


27 year old Canelo vs Floyd > Floyd vs McGregor or Floyd vs Pacquiao 2 again imo
 

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Shawn Porter-Andre Berto crossroads welterweight fight close to being finalized


By Mike Coppinger January 12, 2017 12:55 am

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By: Mike Coppinger | January 12, 2017 12:55 am

Shawn Porter impressed, even in defeat to Keith Thurman, but he was on the shelf for the second half of 2016 following the fight of the year candidate.

Now, Porter is inching toward a return bout, and it’s an intriguing one.

A person close to the negotiations informed USA TODAY Sports that a crossroads bout between Porter and Andre Berto is likely to be finalized soon for the first quarter of 2017. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of contract talks.

There’s no location at this time, but the fight will headline either a Premier Boxing Champions show or a Showtime-televised event.

“It’s a fight my team has been wanting for months now,” Porter told USA TODAY Sports via text message Wednesday. “I think it’s a great fight for the fans and the sport. Not often two very explosive fighters line up against each other.

“I prayed tonight at church that the fight gets made soon. Looking forward to competing against a great fighter in Berto.”


Porter, USA TODAY Sports’ No. 6 welterweight in boxing’s most stacked division, will be the favorite, but Berto is the one coming off a victory.

The former welterweight titleholder knocked out Victor Ortiz in April, but was sidelined the rest of the year as he waited on a bout with Danny Garcia that never materialized.

Both Berto (31-4, 24 KOs) and Porter come forward, and their styles likely will mix for a fan-friendly affair. It’s also a fight both men desperately must win.

For Porter (26-2-1, 16 KOs), no fighter can afford to lose two consecutive bouts in boxing; not if they want to stay on the main event level as an A-side. And Berto is still on the comeback trail.

The 33-year-old has scored just four wins in his last eight bouts, including a shutout defeat to Floyd Mayweather. Berto packs a punch, though, and against a fighter like Porter that applies non-stop pressure, he’ll have ample opportunity to land a big shot.

Porter, 29, is also a former champion, and owns wins over Adrien Broner, Devon Alexander and Paulie Malignaggi.

His June title fight with Thurman was a tantalizing battle, with each man trading blows in the center of the ring. And it’s one Thurman barely eked out via decision, with Porter improving his stock in defeat.

If the bout indeed comes to fruition, one man will move on in the talent-laden 147-pound division, while the other takes a big step back


Shawn Porter-Andre Berto crossroads welterweight fight close to being finalized




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So HBO passed on a dbl header featuring Valdez and Ramirez :martin:.

Another cable network needs to get in the boxing game because this is getting ridiculous, HBO isn't even trying anymore.
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It was in hyperman's post up above

While Arum is pleased to have a date for Lomachenko and Gvozdyk, he said HBO passed on a March doubleheader he proposed that would have featured featherweight titlistOscar Valdez -- possibly against former titleholder Nonito Donaire -- in the main event and super middleweight titlist Gilberto “Zurdo” Ramirez against undefeated up-and-comer Jesse Hart in the co-feature.

“They could have that card for less than a million dollars, but they passed,” said Arum.
 

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N muhfukkers over here wondering why the great one ain't sign no papers
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Just imagine what other bullshyt terms they got in there...a ginger headed bytch N a cross dressing coke addict playing good cop bad cop thinking they going get Jccjr to sign a bad deal :hhh:
 

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He aight(at fukking best). We talking about the nikka that knows boxing the best. One ok fighter ain't going to cut it. Seeing how he's the smartest nikka in boxing and all:hhh:
We'll see how Gervonta Davis pans out though... maybe he can be something

but otherwise I agree, Floyd isn't great hen it comes to promoting and noticing talent
 
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