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[The axe murderer]

Khan smiley is versatile

 

[The axe murderer]

All this talk about being poor and making it from nothing gives you the edge in a Boxing match..............hopefully anyone that agrees with that also feels that Deontay Wilder beats Anthony Joshua, who grew up in better circumstances, because of it as well

I'm thinking about it like....... how many boxers were straight up tougher than Froch and James Tony if they count

I know a fukkton of tremendous boxers came from impoverished areas boxing has a way of weeding people out regardless of background.

 

[morris]

Azumah Nelson, Muhammad Ali, Amir Khan, Carl Froch, Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Marco Antonio Barrera, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Gene Tunney, Chris Eubank Jr, Vernon Forrest, Juan Manuel Marquz, Lennox Lewis, Juan Diaz, Nathan Cleverly, Wilfredo Vasquez Jr, James Toney, Sugar Ray Leonard, etc. None of them grew up starving, wondering where their next meal would come from, surviving on the streets hoping one day that will make and Boxing would be the vessel. Im sure it's PLENTY more through the vast history of Boxing, but it's "history" for a reason. It's hard to go through the background of every single Champion who ever boxed, but everyone on the ATG list weren't from the slums.


You keep saying "throughout the history of boxing", but let's talk MODERN era Boxing. The ATG list is littered with people who fought in the GOLDEN era, when life was totally different

To further back that up........we JUST seen Jarrett Hurd KTFO Tony Harrison, who's from the streets of Detroit. Hurd was raised in the working middle class



Basically, I disagree.

Nelson lost to Sanchez. Poor from Mexico am ATG

Ali - the ultimate

Khan - Howard Davis with a better promoter career but he lost his first fight by ko to the poorer Colombian.

Barrera and JuanMa - rarities especially JMM who has an American boxing style with Mexican left hook

JT and SRL were not rich at all .matter if fact SRL turned pro to make money..Im at work but Tunney also lost to the poorer Mickey Walker...Savage fight

 

[Newzz]

Nelson lost to Sanchez. Poor from Mexico am ATG

Ali - the ultimate

Khan - Howard Davis with a better promoter career but he list his curse fight by ko to the poorer Colombian.

Barrera and JuanMa - rarities especially JMM get has an American boxing style with Mexican left hook

JT and SRL were not rich at all .matter if fact SRL turned pro to make money..Im at work but Tunney also lost to the poorer Mickey Walker...Savage fight

Name me some active notable fighters, from below poverty, who have beaten active notable fighters from above poverty.

The Poverty Level

The lowest class includes any American household that falls under the poverty line, meaning families or individuals who don't earn enough money to meet their basic needs. The Census Bureau estimates that about 14% of the U.S. population (approximately 43 million people) live below the poverty line and fall into this class today.

The current official poverty threshold is an income of $24,257 per year for a family of four and $18,871 for a family of three. This figure has often been hotly debated because many poor Americans live in urban areas that have a high cost of living, making it likely that people earning more would fit the definition of poverty in a high-cost city or region.

Which Income Class Are You?

 

[morris]

Name me some active notable fighters, from below poverty, who have beaten active notable fighters from above poverty.

Hard for me to do as I do not follow boxing like I used to...I used to buy the ring, ko, and boxing illustrated...all the documentaries.

Youtube now shows the now. Have you ever seen the documentary boxing's little giants?

See Lennox was knocked out by McCall the poorer fighter. JCC Jr..is NOTHING like the poorer papa.

I'm not saying if you're rich you can't fight. The opposite should be true as training and equipment cost a lot of money.

But as a living? Rich dudes don't compare...until they have success in the arts.

 

[Newzz]

Hard for me to do as I do not follow boxing like I used to...I used to buy the ring, ko, and boxing illustrated...all the documentaries.

Youtube now shows the now. Have you ever seen the documentary boxing's little giants?

See Lennox was knocked out by McCall the poorer fighter. JCC Jr..is NOTHING like the poorer papa.

I'm not saying if you're rich you can't fight. The opposite should be true as training and equipment cost a lot of money.

But as a living? Rich dudes don't compare...until they have success in the arts.

 

[HeruDat1]

Just to boil it down to, "whoever came from least wins" is so false, it just doesn't make sense to me....no disrespect @morris

Just because you're poor doesn't mean you have hands brehs

That's why I prefaced my entire post with there are no absolutes, there are exceptions, but in general there is a pattern and that stretches across majority of sports that dont require a lot of wealth to start in, from the US across the globe. And I gave several examples.

If two guys are fighting I'm picking whoever I feel is better and 99.9% of the time it won't be based on who grew up where. Though I'm biased for Black fighters for my own reasons. They could be rich or poor. American or Cuban.

Anything you do, you have to have passion for. Passion trumps this whole conversation BUT

If you took 100 poor kids, and 100 rich kids and started them in boxing, giving them examples of what can be achieved especially financially in boxing (or any sport).

I bet you would find significantly more of the poor kids stick with boxing (sport) for the opportunity.

Now who will win or be great, is another story judged on a case by case. Interesting topic, thats just my opinion on it.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Based on what?

Is this a joke?Brook ain't fast fights up n down and Pac is Pac. Lol Brook best FIGHT was a close hug fest w Porter. You're exposing urself

 

[patscorpio]

interesting

 

[MoroccanBoy]

Is this a joke?Brook ain't fast fights up n down and Pac is Pac. Lol Brook best FIGHT was a close hug fest w Porter. You're exposing urself

It's not a joke it's a question. PAC isn't PAC. He's 38, he fights Timothy Bradley once a year, and isn't interested in boxing.

Brook beat Porter more convincingly than Thurman did. An unbeaten Porter at that.

Exposing what? What makes you think PAC can beat brook at this point in time? Are you serious?

Everybody in the boxing community respects Kell Brook. He hits damn hard, he's not easy to hit. He doesn't just have technical skills hes a BIG ww who can punch.

I think you are seriously misinformed on Kell Brook.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[MoroccanBoy]

brook has impeccable timing which more than negates his lack of speed. And again he's not slow either.

There's a reason Khan and many other wws want nothing to do with brook. Unfortunately because of his personality he's in a Charley Burley "who needs him" category. He's not even a draw in his own country. Unless you really want to prove you the best ww in the world you don't need to fight Kell Brook. so props to Errol Spence for coming to England taking the fight. I'm not really too aware of American public opinion but to me it looks like Spence is the American brook in that he's too good and not a big enough draw to fight.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Idk why yall slipping on Brook. I would take Brook over Thurman and Pac. Now between him and Spence it's a toss up because Spence LOOKS to be special. Thurman/Brook/Oldman Pac is not special.

If Spence out classes Brook he would be the clear cut number 1 welterweight

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Brook slumps the shyt outta

Name the last puncher Manny has fought....name the last natural Welterweight Manny has fought

 

[Big Boss]

This quote irks the hell out of me



Its really annoying how boxing is almost like rap where people actually look at street cred. Never made any damn sense to me. fukk does that have to do with anything?

I remember watching Hopkins vs Shumenov and they kept bringing up his background and how he was a lawyer and shyt. Almost as if they were saying "why is he even boxing?"

I remember when Erik Morales took shots Barrera about how he grew up in a middle class home and went to college and shyt, and how Morales was a real Mexican fighter because he grew up in the streets.

All that shyt is so corny to me, and I don't understand why it even matters. If you can box, you can box. fukk all that extra shyt

Yea in sports either you good or not


Look at steph curry



Being from the hood is a nice story to some people.