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[Newzz]

Canelo got all type of hands laid on him by Khan and Smith.........

I had Khan winning at the time of the stoppage

 

[Skip b]

I had Khan winning at the time of the stoppage

So did I; if Khan had a simple step up in the chin department ala a Victor Ortiz chin he might of pulled it off


The shot that dropped Khan was soft as fukk as well; Canelo aint even step into that arm punch, it just connected where it needed to hit

 

[Newzz]

cotto is a better boxer than little g, with FAR better footwork and head movement. and canelo is much improved since lara and trout. lara is better than anybody little g has ever fought and he's better than jacobs too. cotto was smart enough not to get wild with canelo. canelo bullied the shyt out of him when he wanted to. had him badly hurt to the body in the 12th. he just showed him too much respect. canelo will be able to land CLEAN head shots on little g. that's a fact. canelo will be stronger at 160. that's a fact. sergio wasn't getting crazy knockouts at 154. he moved up to 160 and started droppin everybody. canelo will see the same type of increase in punching power. no more draining himself. 160 will be canelo at his best.

Lara hasn't proven that breh. Dude has a draw with Carlos Molina, a draw with Vanes Martirosyan, and a close win over Martirosyan on his resume. He's not proven that he's better than Jacobs when Jacobs win over Quillen > anything Lara has done over the past 5 years.


I do agree that Canelo will be able to land clean head shots on GGG. My thing is, will Canelo be able to move around the ring to escape GGG, who's one of the best at cutting off the ring today, or will he be a stationary target for GGG? I believe he will be stationary, which is why I think GGG wins.


Now, you admitting that Canelo was having a hard time making 154 like I told you and you thought it was lies because he made weight vs Liam Smith. Canelo at 160 shouldn't gas like he did at 154. We'll have to see how he looks vs JCC Jr though as far as stamina goes

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Not true, Cotto is a good dancer, which he pulls out his pocket when he's getting hurt, his style is more slugging based, a slightly above average boxer boxes the shyt out of Trout, Cotto is a brawler

And GGG has Olympic pedigree, please believe he can fight anyway he chooses, looking at how accurate his jab was vs Lemiuex and such

cotto is no brawler. he's a legit boxer who can also brawl. he gave floyd problems and busted his nose up. floys still says cotto is his toughest fight. and that wasn't with brawling, it was with pure technical boxing.


and we really comparing david lemieux to canelo?.....who isn't accurate vs lemieux?....the guy is a one dimensional puncher with no head movement. the guy got slumped by marco rubio in 2 rounds. when canelo starts to slip that jab and comes back with straight rights and body shots, little g gonna start thinking twice about throwin that jab out.

 

[Newzz]

Golovkin is more a favorable style natchup for him than any of those though...

You think so? Canelo likes to tee off on you with combinations while coming forward.....but GGG comes forward as well.


How does Canelo escape the larger/stronger GGG's pressure and cutting off the ring? Is Canelo going to stand his ground and fight or is he gonna get on his back foot and move?

 

[Newzz]

So did I; if Khan had a simple step up in the chin department ala a Victor Ortiz chin he might of pulled it off


The shot that dropped Khan was soft as fukk as well; Canelo aint even step into that arm punch, it just connected where it needed to hit

That's when you know someone has a horrible chin.....when even Victor Ortiz is considered to have a stronger chin



Khan and his china glass chin

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Lara hasn't proven that breh. Dude has a draw with Carlos Molina, a draw with Vanes Martirosyan, and a close win over Martirosyan on his resume. He's not proven that he's better than Jacobs when Jacobs win over Quillen > anything Lara has done over the past 5 years.


I do agree that Canelo will be able to land clean head shots on GGG. My thing is, will Canelo be able to move around the ring to escape GGG, who's one of the best at cutting off the ring today, or will he be a stationary target for GGG? I believe he will be stationary, which is why I think GGG wins.


Now, you admitting that Canelo was having a hard time making 154 like I told you and you thought it was lies because he made weight vs Liam Smith. Canelo at 160 shouldn't gas like he did at 154. We'll have to see how he looks vs JCC Jr though as far as stamina goes

if anything lara and jacobs are same level. no way is jacobs better. I mean, dude looked like shyt vs sergio mora. lara vs jacobs is a toss up fight that I would favor lara in though.

canelo has good enough movement. but the thing is, even though canelo doesn't move his feet great, he's exceptional at reading punches and moving his head. like floyd is. he can be completely stationary and dodge every punch his opponent throws. I think canelo will sit in the pocket and fire off counter shots just to get little g's respect. canelo having a guy who will always punch first is exactly the type of fights he loves. little g will finally be in a fight with a guy who will make him miss 80% of his punches...and a guy with the best counter punching he's ever seen. then we'll see who the real little g is



as far as the weight. yesterday I was lying. today i'm telling the truth

 

[Newzz]

cotto is no brawler. he's a legit boxer who can also brawl. he gave floyd problems and busted his nose up. floys still says cotto is his toughest fight. and that wasn't with brawling, it was with pure technical boxing.


and we really comparing david lemieux to canelo?.....who isn't accurate vs lemieux?....the guy is a one dimensional puncher with no head movement. the guy got slumped by marco rubio in 2 rounds. when canelo starts to slip that jab and comes back with straight rights and body shots, little g gonna start thinking twice about throwin that jab out.

Canelo does have excellent body work. Definitely will be a major key in him taking that victory.


A perfectly placed left hook to the body from Canelo can change the whole trajectory of the fight....and Canelo follows up with BOMBS. He doesn't love tap when people are hurt, so yeah, body work is definitely something I failed to consider in discussing them fighting


*raises Canelo's chances to 25%*

 

[Skip b]

cotto is no brawler. he's a legit boxer who can also brawl. he gave floyd problems and busted his nose up. floys still says cotto is his toughest fight. and that wasn't with brawling, it was with pure technical boxing.


and we really comparing david lemieux to canelo?.....who isn't accurate vs lemieux?....the guy is a one dimensional puncher with no head movement. the guy got slumped by marco rubio in 2 rounds. when canelo starts to slip that jab and comes back with straight rights and body shots, little g gonna start thinking twice about throwin that jab out.

Nikkas noses bleed in fights everyday.......He gave Manny and Floyd problems when he started dancing, causing them to go into a different game plan


As far as Canelo slipping jabs, this nikka ate Khan shyt for 5 1/2 rounds; GGG is hurting and dropping nikkas with jabs....GGG and his pressure style is simply the wrong style type Canelo who is a pretty boy counter puncher with cement feet



And Floyd is a damn liar as well, alpha males will always lie about their toughest fight, that boy had fear in his eyes vs Chino, Floyd was eating leather smiling and giving Cotto daps mid combos sitting on the ropes, he enjoyed the Cotto fight as a fighter toyed with him and even back off when he could have gave him his death blow twice in round 12, he didnt enjoy the Chino fights at all, like he said that boy punch like he has steel in his gloves

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Canelo does have excellent body work. Definitely will be a major key in him taking that victory.


A perfectly placed left hook to the body from Canelo can change the whole trajectory of the fight....and Canelo follows up with BOMBS. He doesn't love tap when people are hurt, so yeah, body work is definitely something I failed to consider in discussing them fighting


*raises Canelo's chances to 25%*

i've always said canelo's body punching will be the key in the little g fight. we've seen numerous times that little g HATES body shots. monroe really exposed that. he legit buckled him with a couple. and monroe aint got shyt on canelo's body punching. nobody in boxing puts the force in their body punches that canelo does. it will be something brand new for little g. we can talk about his power all day. but if canelo is able to sap that power by the mid rounds, little g turns into a completely different fighter.

 

[The axe murderer]

Lara hasn't proven that breh. Dude has a draw with Carlos Molina, a draw with Vanes Martirosyan, and a close win over Martirosyan on his resume. He's not proven that he's better than Jacobs when Jacobs win over Quillen > anything Lara has done over the past 5 years.


I do agree that Canelo will be able to land clean head shots on GGG. My thing is, will Canelo be able to move around the ring to escape GGG, who's one of the best at cutting off the ring today, or will he be a stationary target for GGG? I believe he will be stationary, which is why I think GGG wins.


Now, you admitting that Canelo was having a hard time making 154 like I told you and you thought it was lies because he made weight vs Liam Smith. Canelo at 160 shouldn't gas like he did at 154. We'll have to see how he looks vs JCC Jr though as far as stamina goes

I don't see it. GGG is A level but Lara is the better one than jacobs imo if only slightly. Lara waa never no 7-1 underdog like jacobs is here. That said I see golovkin beating Lara too. I don't see anyone at MW or LMW right now having much of a chance other than Canelo because of the styles and MAYBE Charlo.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

cotto is a better boxer than little g, with FAR better footwork and head movement. and canelo is much improved since lara and trout. lara is better than anybody little g has ever fought and he's better than jacobs too. cotto was smart enough not to get wild with canelo. canelo bullied the shyt out of him when he wanted to. had him badly hurt to the body in the 12th. he just showed him too much respect. canelo will be able to land CLEAN head shots on little g. that's a fact. canelo will be stronger at 160. that's a fact. sergio wasn't getting crazy knockouts at 154. he moved up to 160 and started droppin everybody. canelo will see the same type of increase in punching power. no more draining himself. 160 will be canelo at his best.

Golovkin is more a favorable style natchup for him than any of those though...

Believe it or not GGG boxes smart when he wants to. Watch the Jacob fight I bet GGG dnt let Jacob's tee off him like the other guys did. Canelo ain't even used to fighting a punchers Canelo aint even been in the ring with power punchers GGG has. Canelo loves to throw them combos when shyt aint coming back. GGG gne have him revaluating life after them stiff jabs.. He might beat chavez but I can bet he want even hurt him.

 

[Newzz]

if anything lara and jacobs are same level. no way is jacobs better. I mean, dude looked like shyt vs sergio mora. lara vs jacobs is a toss up fight that I would favor lara in though.

How could I forget about that Mora fight



Jacobs is about to get starched out by GGG anyways, but a Jacobs vs Lara fight....I wouldn't be opposed to it



I think Jacobs would get him.

canelo has good enough movement. but the thing is, even though canelo doesn't move his feet great, he's exceptional at reading punches and moving his head. like floyd is. he can be completely stationary and dodge every punch his opponent throws. I think canelo will sit in the pocket and fire off counter shots just to get little g's respect. canelo having a guy who will always punch first is exactly the type of fights he loves. little g will finally be in a fight with a guy who will make him miss 80% of his punches...and a guy with the best counter punching he's ever seen. then we'll see who the real little g is

Canelo has definitely increased his fighting within the intermediate range with all his upper body movement and ability to catch and shoot. I think he beats GGG there, so GGG is either gonna be all up on him applying suffocating volume pressure or outside. The intermediate, Canelo will put hands on him like he does everyone else.


I cant see Canelo floating around the ring to escape GGG's cutting off the ring precision though breh. Plus in order to move, we need to know what stamina Canelo has at 160. Hopefully, the JCC Jr fight shows that his stamina has increased at the higher weight

as far as the weight. yesterday I was lying. today i'm telling the truth

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Nikkas noses bleed in fights everyday.......He gave Manny and Floyd problems when he started dancing, causing them to go into a different game plan


As far as Canelo slipping jabs, this nikka ate Khan shyt for 5 1/2 rounds; GGG is hurting and dropping nikkas with jabs....GGG and his pressure style is simply the wrong style type Canelo who is a pretty boy counter puncher with cement feet



And Floyd is a damn liar as well, alpha males will always lie about their toughest fight, that boy had fear in his eyes vs Chino, Floyd was eating leather smiling and giving Cotto daps mid combos sitting on the ropes, he enjoyed the Cotto fight as a fighter toyed with him and even back off when he could have gave him his death blow twice in round 12, he didnt enjoy the Chino fights at all, like he said that boy punch like he has steel in his gloves

bottom line is that little g does not have the footwork or head movement that cotto does. and that's just the truth. canelo will not have the same difficulty landing clean head shots on him. but on the flip, little g will most definitely find it difficult to land cleanly on canelo. his only hope is to completely exhaust canelo with pressure.






look at this shyt. cotto is twice as fast as little g too. canelo gonna be seeing this dudes punches in slow motion.

 

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That's when you know someone has a horrible chin.....when even Victor Ortiz is considered to have a stronger chin



Khan and his china glass chin

Ortiz is more of a quitter than fragile chinned, Chino and that Kill shot he ate from Floyd proves that



SN:Floyd aint throw a real straight right with convition in the fights post Ortiz; that boy edged he line of getting disqualified, and ending hi career breaking his hand with no fukks given, classic fukkery.....