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[Newzz]

Nikkas noses bleed in fights everyday.......He gave Manny and Floyd problems when he started dancing, causing them to go into a different game plan


As far as Canelo slipping jabs, this nikka ate Khan shyt for 5 1/2 rounds; GGG is hurting and dropping nikkas with jabs....GGG and his pressure style is simply the wrong style type Canelo who is a pretty boy counter puncher with cement feet



And Floyd is a damn liar as well, alpha males will always lie about their toughest fight, that boy had fear in his eyes vs Chino, Floyd was eating leather smiling and giving Cotto daps mid combos sitting on the ropes, he enjoyed the Cotto fight as a fighter toyed with him and even back off when he could have gave him his death blow twice in round 12, he didnt enjoy the Chino fights at all, like he said that boy punch like he has steel in his gloves

Yeah, him vs Maidana in the 1st fight was definitely a tough fight for him.


Maidana almost stole a win over Floyd

 

[Newzz]

i've always said canelo's body punching will be the key in the little g fight. we've seen numerous times that little g HATES body shots. monroe really exposed that. he legit buckled him with a couple. and monroe aint got shyt on canelo's body punching. nobody in boxing puts the force in their body punches that canelo does. it will be something brand new for little g. we can talk about his power all day. but if canelo is able to sap that power by the mid rounds, little g turns into a completely different fighter.

Body work can DEFINITELY be the game changer. GGG doesn't go to the body like Canelo does, nor does he protect his body....while Canelo literally throws COMBOS including body shots in the 5 piece

 

[Newzz]

I don't see it. GGG is A level but Lara is the better one than jacobs imo if only slightly. Lara waa never no 7-1 underdog like jacobs is here. That said I see golovkin beating Lara too. I don't see anyone at MW or LMW right now having much of a chance other than Canelo because of the styles and MAYBE Charlo.

That's because Lara has never fought GGG breh



Jacobs aint a 7-1 underdog to some random fighter.....he's a 7-1 underdog vs a guy who's KOd every single opponent over the last 9 years. That speaks more to high highly GGG is thought of at 160, because Jacobs is considered by everyone to be a top Middleweight



Do you think Danny Jacobs would be a 7-1 underdog to Canelo if they were fighting on Saturday?

 

[patscorpio]

I don't see anyone at MW or LMW right now having much of a chance other than Canelo because of the styles and MAYBE Charlo.

Jermall charlo is prolly the only fighter in around those divisions that I can actually see beating GGG (barring he shows he can handle MW firepower)..he can fight slick, can punch, is solid in his whiskers, durable, no stamina/conditioning problems, and is a big guy for the MW division

 

[Newzz]

Ortiz is more of a quitter than fragile chinned, Chino and that Kill shot he ate from Floyd proves that



SN:Floyd aint throw a real straight right with convition in the fights post Ortiz; that boy edged he line of getting disqualified, and ending hi career breaking his hand with no fukks given, classic fukkery.....

Ortiz kept headbutting him, Floyd said "f*** this 0" and just stole him



He could've been DQ'd, you're right. That's how mad he was....he didn't care

 

[The axe murderer]

That's because Lara has never fought GGG breh



Jacobs aint a 7-1 underdog to some random fighter.....he's a 7-1 underdog vs a guy who's KOd every single opponent over the last 9 years. That speaks more to high highly GGG is thought of at 160, because Jacobs is considered by everyone to be a top Middleweight



Do you think Danny Jacobs would be a 7-1 underdog to Canelo if they were fighting on Saturday?

He'd have better odds than Chavez is getting that's for sure

 

[Skip b]

Yeah, him vs Maidana in the 1st fight was definitely a tough fight for him.


Maidana almost stole a win over Floyd

Only Floyd fight I was scared of a decision; smoked 2 blunts between round 11 and decision time



Honestly I felt that Floyd and Chino had unfinished business still Chino still troubled him like none other did fight 2, if Floyd was to come back Id watch a fight 3 more than Mcgregor, Manny, Thurman all of them nikkas; shame Chino aint get a Pacquaio/Cotto fight; so we can properly gauge his skillset, because Prime 147 Chino was a Grade A elite fighter by tape; he'd mop the floor with these set of WWs, I like his chances vs a big boy like Canelo as well, but maybe he'll pull a comeback out his ass in the MW divisions before its too late

 

[Skip b]

Ortiz kept headbutting him, Floyd said "f*** this 0" and just stole him



He could've been DQ'd, you're right. That's how mad he was....he didn't care

You see the look on Floyd face below, he would have strangled that boy right then and there had it not been no gloves on, no press conference choke

 

[The axe murderer]

Jermall charlo is prolly the only fighter in around those divisions that I can actually see beating GGG (barring he shows he can handle MW firepower)..he can fight slick, can punch, is solid in his whiskers, durable, no stamina/conditioning problems, and is a big guy for the MW division

Yeah I can see him making noise in that division.

 

[Skip b]

Body work can DEFINITELY be the game changer. GGG doesn't go to the body like Canelo does, nor does he protect his body....while Canelo literally throws COMBOS including body shots in the 5 piece

Easy to go to the body and look pretty when you aint facing nobody who can hit; cement feet Canelo will have to put on his dancing shoes from rounds 1-8 if he stands a chance; and if he effectively applies that strategy will he gas.....


Aside from a super shot Angulo what punchers Canelo has faced

 

[The axe murderer]

Jermall charlo is prolly the only fighter in around those divisions that I can actually see beating GGG (barring he shows he can handle MW firepower)..he can fight slick, can punch, is solid in his whiskers, durable, no stamina/conditioning problems, and is a big guy for the MW division

Yeah I can see him making noise in that division.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I had Khan winning at the time of the stoppage

that's every Khan fight y'all

He wins the first 3 rounds only off speed and then better opponents figure him out, time him, usually even KO him

You think so? Canelo likes to tee off on you with combinations while coming forward.....but GGG comes forward as well.


How does Canelo escape the larger/stronger GGG's pressure and cutting off the ring? Is Canelo going to stand his ground and fight or is he gonna get on his back foot and move?

Canelo isn't as flat footed as he used to be. He's still not a Lara but he is faster at this point than Golovkin both with hands and feets. He has an underrated jab too and quick, precise combos. I think he would throw leather at Golovkin then move a little and so on... not like a May fight he would stood more before Golovkin that's true but he would hit back much more than Golovkin's opponebts so far and he also has a better defense than most of them. I don't say that it'd be easy for any of them but I'd slightly pick Canelo.

Golivkin is good but beatable and has his limitations. I still stick to my opinion that while he really is a very good fighter the hype he receives now is also due to him competeing (recent years) in one of boxing's worst divisions where he could look as dominant as he did much easier than in a division filled with more talent.
And no I don't downgrade his competition just because he is "too good" we have seen May owning everyone in welterweight for example but it was still clear that it's one of if not the best division around.
Golovkin's best opponent to date, p4p would barely be even in the top 10 of ww let's be real

 

[reservoirdogs]

Believe it or not GGG boxes smart when he wants to. Watch the Jacob fight I bet GGG dnt let Jacob's tee off him like the other guys did. Canelo ain't even used to fighting a punchers Canelo aint even been in the ring with power punchers GGG has. Canelo loves to throw them combos when shyt aint coming back. GGG gne have him revaluating life after them stiff jabs.. He might beat chavez but I can bet he want even hurt him.

I know he can box but I think his fans sometimes tend to overrate his boxing ability as well.
And I know that Canelo hasn't faced anyone like Golovkin but at least he faced people with similar and even higher level than Golovkin even if not the same style while Golovkin not just hasn't faced an elite counter puncher like Canel, he also hasn't faced a fighter on Nelo's level in general.

 

[Newzz]

that's every Khan fight y'all

He wins the first 3 rounds only off speed and then better opponents figure him out, time him, usually even KO him

But why is Brook's performance vs GGG heralded, even though he wasn't winning on the cards at the time of the stoppage, while Khan's performance vs Canelo's is dismissed, even though he was winning on the cards at the time of the stoppage, and lasted longer?


If Brook gets props vs GGG, then Khan gets props vs Canelo

Canelo isn't as flat footed as he used to be. He's still not a Lara but he is faster at this point than Golovkin both with hands and feets. He has an underrated jab too and quick, precise combos. I think he would throw leather at Golovkin then move a little and so on... not like a May fight he would stood more before Golovkin that's true but he would hit back much more than Golovkin's opponebts so far and he also has a better defense than most of them. I don't say that it'd be easy for any of them but I'd slightly pick Canelo.

Golivkin is good but beatable and has his limitations. I still stick to my opinion that while he really is a very good fighter the hype he receives now is also due to him competeing in one of boxing's worst divisions where he can looke as domunant as he did much easier than in a division filled with more talent.
And no I don't downgrade his competition just because he is "too good" we have seen May owning everyone in welterweight for example but it was still clear that it's one of if not the vest division around.

GGG is one of the best pressure fighters in the sport period....great at cutting off the ring. Moving a little isn't going to do anything, Canelo's going to have to Thurman his way away from the pressure GGG will apply. GGG is bigger, stronger, longer, better stamina, better chin, great at cutting the ring, and throws many more punches than Canelo. You don't fight a fighter like that by standing in front of him imo, that's the main reason I think Canelo loses.


I don't believe he has the ability to move away from the pressure. He's a come forward fighter.


I guess in September the truth will have to be revealed

 

[Skip b]

Ortiz kept headbutting him, Floyd said "f*** this 0" and just stole him



He could've been DQ'd, you're right. That's how mad he was....he didn't care

Just watched the fight, how could I forget about the Larry Merchant fukkery


KO and rant while TMT is giggling throughout the ring was black excellence at its finest