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[Newzz]

please remember cracks i made about canelo's workrate in the chat? thats a definition of a stiff lol.

margarito holds the most punches thrown record according to compubox...nothing stiff about that

Punch volume doesn't make you a stiff/non stiff breh.


That's like someone telling me that Keith Thurman was a stiffer fighter than Antonio Margarito...................................................................................................................................because Margs threw more punches


Stiffness is based upon your movement, your athleticism, your quickness, your reflexes.


Broner doesn't throw many punches....Viktor Postol threw more. What you're suggesting is that BRONER would be the stiffer fighter in the ring over Postol

pacquiao being less fluid than canelo is so asinine ill let you rock on that

Pacquiao cant move the same way Canelo does above the waist, which is why he doesn't possess good head movement. Pacquiao is much faster in his legs and hands, but his reflexes aren't as quick as Canelo's. That's what I mean by fluidity.



Look how Canelo rolls with, away, ducks, leans, pulls. Pacquiao cant do that. He doesn't the fluidity upstairs that Canelo does

im pretty sure the argument is finesse regarding femi and wilder...in that case femi has that down cold...wilder is a right hand and nothing more..their common opponent molina is a good example of that..femi is also pretty fluid too

Finesse arguments is about the fighters you lean too.


Bruno, Matthysse, PDL, GRJ, GGG. Outside of GRJ, they are more come after you, brawl, type of fighters. Me? Even though I like some brawlers, I prefer more of a finesse fighter: PBL, Tevin Farmer, Andrade, Rigo, etc. I tout their "skill" while you don't feel the same about them, because you don't like their fighting styles as much. Too finesse for your liking.


It's the same reason you think those gifs you posted were > Canelo's gif and why you think Matthysse's performance vs Molina was > Broner's performance vs Molina.


You lean towards the brawler, I lean towards the finesse

 

[patscorpio]

Lmao not hard when you got concrete wraps breh

we already had this argument breh

 

[Skip b]

Punch volume doesn't make you a stiff/non stiff breh.


That's like someone telling me that Keith Thurman was a stiffer fighter than Antonio Margarito...................................................................................................................................because Margs threw more punches


Stiffness is based upon your movement, your athleticism, your quickness, your reflexes.


Broner doesn't throw many punches....Viktor Postol threw more. What you're suggesting is that BRONER would be the stiffer fighter in the ring over Postol



Pacquiao cant move the same way Canelo does above the waist, which is why he doesn't possess good head movement. Pacquiao is much faster in his legs and hands, but his reflexes aren't as quick as Canelo's. That's what I mean by fluidity.



Look how Canelo rolls with, away, ducks, leans, pulls. Pacquiao cant do that. He doesn't the fluidity upstairs that Canelo does










Finesse arguments is about the fighters you lean too.


Bruno, Matthysse, PDL, GRJ, GGG. Outside of GRJ, they are more come after you, brawl, type of fighters. Me? Even though I like some brawlers, I prefer more of a finesse fighter: PBL, Tevin Farmer, Andrade, Rigo, etc. I tout their "skill" while you don't feel the same about them, because you don't like their fighting styles as much. Too finesse for your liking.


It's the same reason you think those gifs you posted were > Canelo's gif and why you think Matthysse's performance vs Molina was > Broner's performance vs Molina.


You lean towards the brawler, I lean towards the finesse

@patscorpio I dont think I seen a ban worthy post in this thread ever, but a million negs woulnt do this idiot no justice here; am I high, I dont smoke no more

 

[Newzz]

Khan is faster than Canelo as well, just like Pacquiao is, but Khan is also rather stiff in the ring......Canelo has more fluidity in his movements.



Raw Speed or total punches thrown doesn't equal = stiff or non-stiff brehs.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

this

and this

is better than

thats all breh

come on. are you really saying canelo is stiffer than antonio margarito?.....even in the gif you posted, margarito is wild as fukk. how can you look at that canelo gif and say he's stiff?.....that shyt is a work of art, no homo. if you wanna say you prefer tony and pac's performances vs cotto, that's another thing. but cotto was much more willing to trade with them at first, and that was his downfall. the only time cotto really stood in the pocket with canelo was in round 8, and he started getting his shyt pushed in. if he started the fight like that, he wouldn't have made it to 6.






even in flurries, canelo keeps his shyt short and compact.

 

[Newzz]

@patscorpio I dont think I seen a ban worthy post in this thread ever, but a million negs woulnt do this idiot no justice here; am I high, I dont smoke no more

You just bolded 2 totally different statements and lumped them together fool.

Look how Canelo rolls with, away, ducks, leans, pulls. Pacquiao cant do that. He doesn't the fluidity upstairs that Canelo does

Pacquiao is not as fluid in his upper body movement as Canelo is. He's stiffer than Canelo upstairs, but much faster in his extremities just like Khan was...............fool.

Finesse arguments is about the fighters you lean too

Pat thought the argument was based around just Bruno and Wilder, bt its not. It's about the fighters he leans to vs the fighters I lean to.


He prefers people that will get in there and get to work. I prefer the "dancer" aka the finesse fighter.


It shows in the fighters he likes vs the fighters I like.........................................................................................................................................................................................fool.





Stay out of grown folks business

 

[Newzz]

come on. are you really saying canelo is stiffer than antonio margarito?.....even in the gif you posted, margarito is wild as fukk. how can you look at that canelo gif and say he's stiff?.....that shyt is a work of art, no homo. if you wanna say you prefer tony and pac's performances vs cotto, that's another thing. but cotto was much more willing to trade with them at first, and that was his downfall. the only time cotto really stood in the pocket with canelo was in round 8, and he started getting his shyt pushed in. if he started the fight like that, he wouldn't have made it to 6.






even in flurries, canelo keeps his shyt short and compact.

Canelo doesn't even FIGHT like a typical Mexican fighter. He has more of a urban fighting style. He's much more fluid than the average Mexican fighter. Him and Zurdo are different than the Margs of the world.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Canelo doesn't even FIGHT like a typical Mexican fighter. He has more of a urban fighting style. He's much more fluid than the average Mexican fighter. Him and Zurdo are different than the Margs of the world.

yea canelo is basically floyd light at this point. I don't know why everybody expects him to walk guys down. he's never been that guy. he's a boxer-puncher. a counter puncher who can also brawl when need be. that's why he gets so much love from the black fighters in the game. floyd, ward, spence, monroe, berto.....shyt, he gets more love from black fighters than he does mexican. you can tell they got a lot of respect for canelo from a technical stand point.

 

[MoroccanBoy]

But what was the "pause" for?

What I was thinking

 

[patscorpio]

Stiffness is based upon your movement, your athleticism, your quickness, your reflexes.

if thats the case than canelo wouldn't have the issues of being able to cut off the ring on somebody..something margarito never had a problem with....nothing athletic about that boy he's a plodder with average stamina..he's lucky his handspeed is up there..floyd made him look slow as he was schooling him

Pacquiao cant move the same way Canelo does above the waist, which is why he doesn't possess good head movement. Pacquiao is much faster in his legs and hands, but his reflexes aren't as quick as Canelo's. That's what I mean by fluidity.



Look how Canelo rolls with, away, ducks, leans, pulls. Pacquiao cant do that. He doesn't the fluidity upstairs that Canelo does

like i said im going to let you rock with ths...i cant with this one

Bruno, Matthysse, PDL, GRJ, GGG. Outside of GRJ, they are more come after you, brawl, type of fighters. Me? Even though I like some brawlers, I prefer more of a finesse fighter: PBL, Tevin Farmer, Andrade, Rigo, etc. I tout their "skill" while you don't feel the same about them, because you don't like their fighting styles as much. Too finesse for your liking.


It's the same reason you think those gifs you posted were > Canelo's gif and why you think Matthysse's performance vs Molina was > Broner's performance vs Molina.

who said i dont like andrade and rigo? i note their skill and keep as that..ive never criticized rigo's skill just hate how he shoots himself in the foot..lomachenko well thats been noted as well as the schooling he got from salido ...i posted those gifs because it goes back to the posts of choc and LB...canelo should have done something more against this old cherry picking weight draining cotto regardless of "displaying fundamentals"..more than margarito and pac who bodied a much fresher cotto....i prefer the mean that leads to the spectacular end..broner love tapping and being afraid of a shell shocked molina doesnt impress me..lucas coming back from a serious eye injury and some early rust to brutally KO Molina...impresses me..and every single one of those fighters are skilled..outside of lucas they all are or were champs...its all good

 

[patscorpio]

Leo Santa Cruz vs. Abner Mares Rematch To Be Ordered

By Miguel Rivera

World Boxing Association President Gilberto Mendoza Jr. is planning to order the immediate negotiations for a rematch between featherweight champions Leo Santa Cruz (33-1-1, 18 KOs) and Abner Mares (30-2-1, 15 KOs).

Santa Cruz is back on top after handing Carl Frampton the first defeat of his pro career in January, with a twelve round majority decision to capture the WBA's "super" title at 126-pounds.

Last December, Mares put himself back in the mix for major fights after snapping a layoff of more than a year to turn back the odds by winning a twelve round split decision over Jesus Cuellar to capture the WBA's "regular" version of the featherweight crown.

Mendoza wants to eliminate the issue of multiple WBA titles in every weight division. He started that mission in early 2016 and hopes to establish a single WBA champion in every weight class by the end of this year.

After years of hype, Santa Cruz and Mares fought an all-action battle in August of 2015 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. After twelve rounds of a grueling fight, Santa Cruz won a majority decision.

The WBA gave Santa Cruz a few weeks to make a potential deal with Frampton for a trilogy fight, but that now seems unlikely. Because he traveled over to the United States for the first two meetings, Frampton wants the third fight to happen in Belfast - but Santa Cruz is not really willing to make that trip and would rather have that third fight once again on American soil.

"That's right, this week or the other we are going to order the fight between Leo Santa Cruz and Abner Mares. There had been talk of the rematch with Carl Frampton [and Santa Cruz], but it seems that for now it's not going to happen, so I hope to announce the negotiations between their teams very soon," Mendoza said to ESPN Deportes.

 

[The axe murderer]

Check in brehs. It's fo da culture!

Damn toss up between cruiserweight and lightheavyweight

 

[The axe murderer]

Check in brehs. It's fo da culture!

Damn toss up between cruiserweight and lightheavyweight

 

[Newzz]

if thats the case than canelo wouldn't have the issues of being able to cut off the ring on somebody..something margarito never had a problem with....nothing athletic about that boy he's a plodder with average stamina..he's lucky his handspeed is up there..floyd made him look slow as he was schooling him

Cutting off the ring has nothing to do with being stiff either

like i said im going to let you rock with ths...i cant with this one

Newzz 1 - Pat 0

who said i dont like andrade and rigo? i note their skill and keep as that..ive never criticized rigo's skill just hate how he shoots himself in the foot..lomachenko well thats been noted as well as the schooling he got from salido ...i posted those gifs because it goes back to the posts of choc and LB...canelo should have done something more against this old cherry picking weight draining cotto regardless of "displaying fundamentals"..more than margarito and pac who bodied a much fresher cotto....i prefer the mean that leads to the spectacular end..

Ok

broner love tapping and being afraid of a shell shocked molina doesnt impress me..lucas coming back from a serious eye injury and some early rust to brutally KO Molina...impresses me..and every single one of those fighters are skilled..outside of lucas they all are or were champs...its all good

There is a huge gap in skill between fighters when we are talking about Andrade, Lomachenko, Rigo..............and you talking about Joshua, Matthysse, Ponce De Leon



And yep, Broner's performance was better, but you will never agree. You like the blood and guts. I prefer not getting hit and producing a clinic.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

But yet, he already has ruled out fighting Robert Easter Jr in 2017


If he was as confident as you, he would've listed Easter as someone he wants to fight this year, since it's the easiest fight to make being they have the same management


Instead, he talking about others and moving up to 147

not worth a response my friend.

He's so shook of Easter he's; willing to fight him, willing to fight his boss, and willing to fight a dude who whoops his bosses ass