Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[HeruDat1]

Interesting read, just some pieces.

#FreeRigeaux

It’s the fault of the language barrier, some will say. Or the desire for blood-and-guts slugfests. He’s just not marketable. Too aloof, too enigmatic. Will make my fighter look average and devalue his future prospects, managers will say. He just doesn’t sell tickets, promoters will say. Others say boxing is dead or in decline. Boxing is not dead, but the appreciation of “The Sweet Science” appears in rapid decline.

And one wonders what Carl Frampton (not to mention Leo Santa Cruz and others) will say years from now when the Rigondeaux question is brought up yet again. Will he truly believe his own platitudes of “the timing wasn’t right,” or “such a pity we couldn’t get it done”? Or will he privately regret not testing his skills against one of the greatest boxers to ever step into the squared circle? But forget the distant future; the tragedy is happening now as Rigondeaux battles privately with motivation and idleness, as opportunities shrink into nothingness and lethargy and procrastination launch their daily attacks.

Spoiler

Countless accolades at that level and tales of fleeing Cuba in a dinghy under cover of darkness to turn professional only add to the mystique. Those who controlled that escape operation must have viewed Guillermo as a future superstar and cash cow in the making. His status now is the kind of bizarre tragedy that only boxing can serve up. Inactive, ignored and avoided, this special talent is simply too brilliant to be considered worthy of competition.

I witnessed the great man in action on a tense night in Dublin a few years ago. A seven fight pro and already a world champion he was given a cheque of some decency one presumes to give Irish journeyman Willie” Big Bang” Casey an unlikely title shot. The usual hopes of a passionate home crowd were ruthlessly scuttled by Rigo, who dropped poor Willie like a sack of spuds.

Rigondeaux had entered the arena with a chilling smoothness of emotionless movement. A natural fighter, his entire mental and physical composition combined to create something approaching genius. And now us boxing anoraks find ourselves sharing short videos on social media celebrating his ability and cursing the economic semantics of the professional game.

The story of Rigondeaux thus far is the story of thwarted talent, the triumph of business over sport and the tragedy of conflicting human values. And it is very sad. We live in a world where Donald Trump is the most powerful man on the planet while Guillermo Rigondeaux sits beside a phone that never rings. There’s something very wrong with this picture.

Unless one sees Yeats gloomy old poem as a bleak and inescapable prophecy. Indeed, in boxing the centre hasn’t held for a long time now and mere anarchy continues to turn what was once called “The Sport of Kings” into a hollow travesty. Sadly, the rare gemstone of balletic pugilism that is Guillermo Rigondeaux remains surplus to boxing’s requirements, as once again economic necessity trumps talent and true sporting achievement. And boxing girds itself for the absurdity that is Mayweather vs McGregor. Anarchy, indeed.

 

[HeruDat1]

Out of the current champs/contenders at any given weight class, who do yall think cuts the most weight/should be fighting at a higher weight class?

 

[patscorpio]

Frampton, Quigg, LSC all p*ssyfooted around 122..Frampton violated the hardest..can't respect it

 

[Newzz]

Interesting read, just some pieces.

#FreeRigeaux

It’s the fault of the language barrier, some will say. Or the desire for blood-and-guts slugfests. He’s just not marketable. Too aloof, too enigmatic. Will make my fighter look average and devalue his future prospects, managers will say. He just doesn’t sell tickets, promoters will say. Others say boxing is dead or in decline. Boxing is not dead, but the appreciation of “The Sweet Science” appears in rapid decline.

Anyways, Rigo should be fighting his mandatories. If he has a belt, he should have his promoter on the line trying to force these mandatory defenses, and then 1 by 1, call out each fighter that turned down a mandatory challenge vs Rigondeaux

 

[Newzz]

Out of the current champs/contenders at any given weight class, who do yall think cuts the most weight/should be fighting at a higher weight class?

They all cut tons of weight:


Champs: Skinny Fat should be at 140 minimum, Terence Crawford should be at 147, Kell Brook should be at 154, every CW Champion should eventually be at HW.


Contenders: Lemieux should be at 168, Frankie Gomez should be at 154, JCC Jr should be at 175, every CW contender should be eventually be at HW

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Chad Dawson didn't leave that USS possibility to chance

No lie though that match was a bloodbath. I remember watching it with my dad and he was stunned at the size difference. gave up3 inches in height and 40 pounds to a guy like klitschko

Vitali has a few level assbeatings under his belt

 

[HeruDat1]

It's happening

@Newzz so Lara just gonna act like we aint the mando now.

He ready to tear down one of AL's young bulls before the WBA makes that call.

 

[The axe murderer]

Only legit good fighters are good at Heavyweight


That's exactly my point


Chris Byrd, David Haye, Holyfield, others Im forgetting have successfully moved up from the Euro/African dominated JV Heavyweight division, and they were small, so Im not paying attention to them Division II Heavyweights at Cruiser


Move up to HW, then they can get some real props from the rest of the Boxing world. Until then, Im just gonna continue ignoring the 4 Champions at CW




Please Lord, do not have a CW tournament

Takes a special fighter to make that jump though. James Tony adamantium taking bombs from Sam Peter and not clinching much in that fight like

Vitali has a few level assbeatings under his belt

This one and the Shannon Briggs one were downright nasty

 

[patscorpio]

Vitali has a few level assbeatings under his belt

like the worst of them: vs Shannon Briggs

yet 7 years after a beating that to me ended his career, he's getting a title shot...boxing is so strange

 

[The axe murderer]

double

 

[patscorpio]

Takes a special fighter to make that jump though. James Tony adamantium taking bombs from Sam Peter and not clinching much in that fight like

GOAT Level chin...he got blasted at times without taking a step back..those fights and the rahman one

 

[Newzz]

It's happening

@Newzz so Lara just gonna act like we aint the mando now.

He ready to tear down one of AL's young bulls before the WBA makes that call.

Lara trying to get away from Andrade again



Hurd like



#ATeam

 

[Newzz]

Takes a special fighter to make that jump though. James Tony adamantium taking bombs from Sam Peter and not clinching much in that fight like

I agree. Only the special fighters can fight at Heavyweight, because that's where the Giants roam



Can anyone give me a list of the Top 10 CWs of all-time?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

No one ever said he was shook Smoke. I said he cant beat Easter.


So, do you have receipts for your strawman defense? Or are you gonna keep arguing something never said?

No I don't have any receipts.....you're heavily implying that Mikey doesn't want to fight Easter, because he's scared of losing, right?

 

[The axe murderer]

GOAT Level chin...he got blasted at times without taking a step back..those fights and the rahman one

I can probably count on one hand how many times the guy clinched in his career. Hell you would think a war like the mccallum fight which was an inside fighting back and forth would shorten his career but he ends up moving to cruiserweight and HW