Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[krackdagawd]

Collazo is the easiest fight to make
Ocampo is young, never fought outside of Mexico, never been in a scheduled 12 round fight... highly doubt he takes the fight
Ponomarev already turned him down before and never been in a scheduled 12 round fight... again, highly doubt he takes the fight

I hope it's Ponomarev though, we need more PBC/TR interaction... and he's the best out of those 3 in my opinion

I think the Collazo one makes the most sense he can top another Thurman W and get nikkas hype for a unification

 

[LinusCaldwell]

I think Wednesday night of fight week for both big MMA and boxing cards you guys can start looking forward to me doing a fight preview and having it up by no later than Friday morning. I haven't decided how and when I wanna do the post fight if I want to do a post fight.

 

[SuikodenII]

I think the Collazo one makes the most sense he can top another Thurman W and get nikkas hype for a unification

I think people are already hyped for a unification bout. Problem is, Thurman is injured. Spence don't wanna sit and get rusty again, so a hometown defense makes the most sense. Whether it be against a top 10 opponent or someone else. Collazo being another KO victim is fine, but wouldn't really be any more impressive than what Thurman already did.

Collazo won 1 round out of 7, then threw in the towel...

Would it really matter if he did better than Thurman against Collazo in this situation? Sounds more like he'd have to completely shut-out this old vet without losing a round... much like Khan and Thurman have virtually already done. But after stopping Kell Brook, Spence is already elite, beating Old Man Llazo won't make it any more legitimate. Now, if he struggles, then his stock drops and the super fight no longer looks so "super". *Looking at Danny Garcia v Ghost*


At least against Ponomarev or Ocampo he's fighting another young, undefeated fighter.... well, Ocampo ain't all that imo, but Ponomarev is decent. He's there to fight and it's guaranteed excitement with two young guys who don't know how to lose. Struggling here wouldn't look as bad as against Collazo (because he's already been dominated by top tier 147ers) or Ocampo (because he's not that good)

Besides... we all know Collazo would get brutalized in there. He'd be Logan forreal

 

[theflyest]

depends on how he does at 154. he wont have the size advantage at 154 and won't be able to just bully his way inside. those defensive flaws might get him sparked vs big dudes like lubin and charlo. by the time spence and canelo meet they'd both probably be over 30. can't see spence leaving welterweight for another couple years cause he wants to unify. but as of right now, he would really have to sharpen up his defense to beat canelo cause he's pretty much tailor made for canelo at the moment. come forward fighter who's susceptible to right hands and uppercuts. literally canelo's two best punches. canelo has better speed(slightly), better jab, better accuracy, and much better defense. not to mention, spence is vulnerable to combo punching, and canelo is one of the best combo punchers in the game. we already know styles make fights and canelo's style and skillset would be a nightmare for spence...and he wouldn't even have the size advantage to make up for it. as it stands, I can't think any way possible spence could beat canelo with his current attributes. but I expect spence to improve over the next few years so things could change. but right now 147 is perfect for him. he's devastating at this weight.

I could honestly see him jumping from 147 to 160 for the Canelo fight, if they do meet.

The reality is that 147 is the money division. Even if he does become linear, there are still other names to make good money with (Garcia, Porter, Crawford, Khan, Peterson, Broner). It wouldn't make sense to leave unless he just couldn't make weight anymore. With the names you have at WW, that's like 3-4 years right there. Unfortunately, now that he's at the top level, he will probably only fight once or twice a year going forward.

I like how GGG's team aims for 3 fights a year.

I do acknowledge that he's a big WW, therefore it may make sense for someone like him to leave after becoming linear. It's really all about how hard it will be to make weight in the future.

 

[SuikodenII]

Alexander vs. Collazo in Play For Potential Garcia-Broner Card - Boxing News

Well, well, well...

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

I could honestly see him jumping from 147 to 160 for the Canelo fight, if they do meet.

The reality is that 147 is the money division. Even if he does become linear, there are still other names to make good money with (Garcia, Porter, Crawford, Khan, Peterson, Broner). It wouldn't make sense to leave unless he just couldn't make weight anymore. With the names you have at WW, that's like 3-4 years right there. Unfortunately, now that he's at the top level, he will probably only fight once or twice a year going forward.

I like how GGG's team aims for 3 fights a year.

I do acknowledge that he's a big WW, therefore it may make sense for someone like him to leave after becoming linear. It's really all about how hard it will be to make weight in the future.

Khan most likely doesn't fight again until 2018 and when he does I think hes fighting Brook since its a big money fight over here and Brooks stock has dropped (people calling him a quitter + losing at home), so its gonna be easier for him to try and flex a 60-40 deal for the fight

No way does he jump from 147 to 160 without fighting at 154 and at this stage Canelo beats him. He can take advantage of Canelos inactivity but unless you fight Canelo like Floyd did (being the counter puncher and letting him come to you), hes just gonna be another fighter playing into his game

 

[patscorpio]

Julio Ceja Drops, Stops Anselmo Moreno in Three Rounds - Boxing News

man i guess this is the end of the line for moreno

 

[The axe murderer]

man i guess this is the end of the line for moreno

That Yamanaka fight took what was left of him. He can't take this many wars no more.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Alexander vs. Collazo in Play For Potential Garcia-Broner Card - Boxing News

Well, well, well...

Funny part is Collazo could win

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Honest question-

At 147 Crawford vs Spence Jr...who you got?

Bigger Crawford fan here but Spence size....but I think Crawford is a bit more polished.


I got Crawford. Need to see how he is at 147.

 

[Newzz]

Honest question-

At 147 Crawford vs Spence Jr...who you got?

Bigger Crawford fan here but Spence size....but I think Crawford is a bit more polished.


I got Crawford. Need to see how he is at 147.

Crawford was visibly rocked by Gamboa & Diaz...2 much smaller/weaker punchers than Spence.

Crawford was also losing rounds to Thomas Dulorme before he was able to adjust.


Spence is coming off a punishing win over a bigger/stronger fighter than Crawford...Id think its best Bud stayed outta Spence's way.


#TruthSeekers

 

[reservoirdogs]

Honest question-

At 147 Crawford vs Spence Jr...who you got?

Bigger Crawford fan here but Spence size....but I think Crawford is a bit more polished.


I got Crawford. Need to see how he is at 147.

need to see how Crawford carries his power up to ww first
if he does, the fight is as close as it gets
if anybody has the skills to outbox Spence throughout 12 rounds without broken down that's Crawford but if Spence won't respect his power then not.

 

[The axe murderer]

Honest question-

At 147 Crawford vs Spence Jr...who you got?

Bigger Crawford fan here but Spence size....but I think Crawford is a bit more polished.


I got Crawford. Need to see how he is at 147.

Would be a damn good fight. Need to see how Crawford carries over to welter because Spence is a big one. We could have a hagler vs sugar ray type match on our hands here

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Crawford was visibly rocked by Gamboa & Diaz...2 much smaller/weaker punchers than Spence.

Crawford was also losing rounds to Thomas Dulorme before he was able to adjust.


Spence is coming off a punishing win over a bigger/stronger fighter than Crawford...Id think its best Bud stayed outta Spence's way.


#TruthSeekers

But....Spence can be touched.....triangle theories never work in boxing...but fukk Arum this will never happen. Prime Gamboa was the fastest nikka in the sport no shame getting tagged by him...Diaz imho didn't do a damn thing....that being said Spence is a whole other level of problems.

Let's be honest....Crawford is a WW masquerading as JWW.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Crawford was visibly rocked by Gamboa & Diaz...2 much smaller/weaker punchers than Spence.

Crawford was also losing rounds to Thomas Dulorme before he was able to adjust.


Spence is coming off a punishing win over a bigger/stronger fighter than Crawford...Id think its best Bud stayed outta Spence's way.


#TruthSeekers

Diaz hasn't rocked shyt, Crawford wasn't in problem for a second there, Diaz probably hasn't win a single round, was taken to school like c'mon...

I understand if you pick Spence it's not that, but don't act like Felix Diaz exposed anything on Crawford.

and the Gamboa shyt... how long y'all gonna repeat that like a broken record? Yes he got reckless in a fight 3 fukking years ago, went for the kill and got clapped back and was on shaky legs for about idk 10 seconds or less?

This is Canelo vs Jose Cotto category, Wilder vs Sconiers category, Ward vs Boone category, Thurman vs Collazo category, etc... when the fighter hasn't showed any significant weakness in punch resistance but their critics clinging in some irrelevant shyt which happened years ago, either a KD or not even a KD just them being shaken up for a short period of time in a round.

Crawford has a decent chin, not uncrackable but also not china we would know by now if he would have that.