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[patscorpio]

You're on his I get it

But Matthysse beat Judah and Alexander but did not get the decisions...Judah fight was close, he was outright robbed against Alexander

Judah ain't shot, just a mental midget as he's always been and fought a horrible style against Khan.

Matthysse is arguably the hardest hitter at 140, beat a very motivated/hungry Olusegun to earn his shot, beat Soto down like he stole something, destroyed veterans like Corley and Harris (though both past their primes...especially Harris, talk about a disappointing career)

Garcia had an incredibly impressive showing against Khan eating those shots and delivering a brutal beatdown in return. He outfought Kendall ****, another mental case, and has victories over vets like Morales and Nate Campbell (both pas their primes...Morales rematch should've never happened)

Matthysse has fought the better comp to this point, and the only reason he doesn't own a worthless belt (sir, you call yourself a boxing fan yet relish these trinkets) is cause these belt holders don't want NONE.

Matthysse would win IMO, Garcia does not bring enough power nor boxing skills to the table that Matthysse has not already seen and his lack of defense would get ya boy potentially KO'd...

agree with everything although i personally thought garcia squeaked by **** in their fight..but thats not the topic in question lol

 

[Skip b]

are you ? khan was nowhere near the best at 140 when garcia beat him...lamont peterson had already beaten khan in his previous fight...there's no need to move up if he hasn't cleaned out 140...ko'ing a passed it erik morales after failing to do it in the first fight doesn't warrant a PPV fight with pacquiao or mayweather

as for matthysse..there's a reason why ppl, myself included, think he's still undefeated..he wasn't dominate against zab but he clearly beat him to most of us..same thing with the "loss" to devon..matthysse has an interim wbc title which means garcia will have to face him or be stripped

is this your best argument




You know damn well Peterson was on Roids, in a fight where Khan was clearly winning but was robbed, and don't try to act like Khan wasn't damn near begging fighters like Bradley and crew to fight him while he was ducked(Morales, JMM), now Garcia Ko's him in a ole school brawl and all of a sudden he aint shyt

fukk Mattysse you but but but for him, when he struggles against B class at best fighters like Zab and alexander, but slight Garcia with his dominate no question victories, are you gonna act like Morales aint embarrass and run the hardest hitting 140 pounder out of the division in Maidaina, with one eye. And Garcia demolished Khan who was well on his way to a Floyd Payday, but Garcia doesn't warrant one, when he's undefeated and his resume greatly shyts on Khans..................




Do you really wish to continue this argument youngin






nikkas hate Angel so much, Danny has to get hated on unrightfully so

 

[patscorpio]

is this your best argument




You know damn well Peterson was on Roids, in a fight where Khan was clearly winning but was robbed, and don't try to act like Khan wasn't damn near begging fighters like Bradley and crew to fight him while he was ducked(Morales, JMM), now Garcia Ko's him in a ole school brawl and all of a sudden he aint shyt

fukk Mattysse you but but but for him, when he struggles against B class at best fighters like Zab and alexander, but slight Garcia with his dominate no question victories, are you gonna act like Morales aint embarrass and run the hardest hitting 140 pounder out of the division in Maidaina, with one eye. And Garcia demolished Khan who was well on his way to a Floyd Payday, but Garcia doesn't warrant one, when he's undefeated and his resume greatly shyts on Khans..................




Do you really wish to continue this argument youngin






nikkas hate Angel so much, Danny has to get hated on unrightfully so

no youngin here breh and you're def on status..there's so much nonsense with what you just spewed its not worth a retort

 

[Skip b]

no youngin here breh and you're def on status..there's so much nonsense with what you just spewed its not worth a retort

Rebuttal please or shut the fukk up take your L and stop quoting me, nikkas like to throw that troll shyt around, when they are getting sonned

 

[Skip b]

You're on his I get it

But Matthysse beat Judah and Alexander but did not get the decisions...Judah fight was close, he was outright robbed against Alexander

Judah ain't shot, just a mental midget as he's always been and fought a horrible style against Khan.

Matthysse is arguably the hardest hitter at 140, beat a very motivated/hungry Olusegun to earn his shot, beat Soto down like he stole something, destroyed veterans like Corley and Harris (though both past their primes...especially Harris, talk about a disappointing career)

Garcia had an incredibly impressive showing against Khan eating those shots and delivering a brutal beatdown in return. He outfought Kendall ****, another mental case, and has victories over vets like Morales and Nate Campbell (both pas their primes...Morales rematch should've never happened)

Matthysse has fought the better comp to this point, and the only reason he doesn't own a worthless belt (sir, you call yourself a boxing fan yet relish these trinkets) is cause these belt holders don't want NONE.

Matthysse would win IMO, Garcia does not bring enough power nor boxing skills to the table that Matthysse has not already seen and his lack of defense would get ya boy potentially KO'd...

the hardest hitting 140, couldn't Ko the shot fighter who invented the chicken dance, and loss while he was at it



Please explain to me how Matthysse resume is better(although solid) when Garcia has win vs Campbell, ****, Khan, and Morales(2), nikkas is talking out they ass like a muthafukker, are you gonna act like Khan wasn't the consensus king at 140, and you beat the king you become the king point blank period.

Khan showed how you are supposed to look vs a shot fighter in Zab, if Matthysse was so elite why couldn't he do the same, or at least did what Baldomir did





Plus daps for the respectable rebuttal, even though you a talking out your ass, Garcia has no power nor boxing skills

 

[patscorpio]

what difference does it make if matthysse couldn't KO zab? he did drop him at least...floyd faced zab after he lost to baldomir and he couldn't KO zab either...hell he didn't even drop him...would we hold that against floyd too

 

[Skip b]

what difference does it make if matthysse couldn't KO zab? he did drop him at least...floyd faced zab after he lost to baldomir and he couldn't KO zab either...hell he didn't even drop him...would we hold that against floyd too

Floyd fought a more prime version, lets not act like FMJ wasn't well on his way to a TKO before, the blatant fouls and fukkery, but you the one who called him the hardest hitting 140 pounder, when he had to beat Ajose from pillar to post for 10 rounds before even dropping him, and didnt even ko him cold nor had him on queer street, when Garcia is knocking the elite of elite out cold early, but it's but but but he has no power, like I said yall is talking out your ass


you for not quoting me and taking you L like a man, like I suggested

 

[patscorpio]

Floyd fought a more prime version, lets not act like FMJ wasn't well on his way to a TKO before, the blatant fouls and fukkery, but you the one who called him the hardest hitting 140 pounder, when he had to beat Ajose from pillar to post for 10 rounds before even dropping him, and didnt even ko him cold nor had him on queer street, when Garcia is knocking the elite of elite out cold early, but it's but but but he has no power, like I said yall is talking out your ass


you for not quoting me and taking you L like a man, like I suggested

No L taken because you haven't made any good points to what i said..they've ranged from ridiculous to flat out ..ajose had never lost or been dropped..ajose has a good chin..just like soto had a good chin....both were dropped and eventually stopped ..if garcia was such a big puncher than how come he couldn't ko a passed it campbell or even drop him? ...robbie peden did it twice..how come he couldn't ko a passed it kendall **** who had been ko'ed 3 times or drop him?..dude eeked a split against him...you're clearly talking out your ass breh and overrating garcia and his power

 

[SuikodenII]

the hardest hitting 140, couldn't Ko the shot fighter who invented the chicken dance, and loss while he was at it



Please explain to me how Matthysse resume is better(although solid) when Garcia has win vs Campbell, ****, Khan, and Morales(2), nikkas is talking out they ass like a muthafukker, are you gonna act like Khan wasn't the consensus king at 140, and you beat the king you become the king point blank period.

Khan showed how you are supposed to look vs a shot fighter in Zab, if Matthysse was so elite why couldn't he do the same, or at least did what Baldomir did





Plus daps for the respectable rebuttal, even though you a talking out your ass, Garcia has no power nor boxing skills

Again, Judah isn't shot and boxed very well against Matthysse, though I did not have him winning, it was close enough to where I won't complain about the decision. Just because a fighter has been ko'd, or doesn't have the strongest chin, doesn't mean EVERYbody is ko'ing them. Different fights, different things happen, fighters sometimes exceed or don't meet their current in-ring value, for whatever reason(s).

Campbell win was solid, though he was past his prime, along with his win against Morales. Better comp than Harris/Corley as far as the veteran deptartment goes, but all 4 way past it. And are you really happy with Garcia's bout with Morales this past Saturday? Do you actually believe, or did you, that the fight would be in any shape or fashion competitive?

Khan lost to Peterson, who was found not guilty of doping might I add, in a close bout. Some thought Khan won, some thought the ref did a poor job, either way he lost and was still considered a top 3 140lber in the game, no question.

Khan and Matthysse are completely different fighters, different styles, different physical attributes. Point is null and void, one fights nothing like the other. Baldomir won a razor thin decision as well, Mayweather, Tszyu, Cotto and Khan are the only ones who won dominating bouts against Zab, and not just picked up close victories.

Did I say Garcia "has no power, has no boxing skills"? You know I didn't...

 

[SuikodenII]

No L taken because you haven't made any good points to what i said..they've ranged from ridiculous to flat out ..ajose had never lost or been dropped..ajose has a good chin..just like soto had a good chin....both were dropped and eventually stopped ..if garcia was such a big puncher than how come he couldn't ko a passed it campbell or even drop him? ...robbie peden did it twice..how come he couldn't ko a passed it kendall **** who had been ko'ed 3 times or drop him?..dude went eeked a split against him...you're clearly talking out your ass breh and overrating garcia and his power

Word, Ajose took some shyt

-fukking Robbie Peden, I can't believe Campbell took that L in the first fight like that

-SD was some BS though, **** clearly lost to Garcia


Speaking of ****, he's in negotiations to face Lamont Peterson for the IBF belt...guess Judah backed out...

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Matthyse gets hit too much, he would be stretched early, this is the same Matthyse who couldn't dominate a shot Judah, whoever says otherwise doesn't know shyt about boxing, like I said in a post here like 2 weeks ago Garcia has Elite talent, he would mop the floor with any 140 pounder, including Timothy Bradley

Matthyse needs to work on his D, yes but when garcia catches one of those straight rights from LM his gameplan would go out the window

 

[SuikodenII]

Matthyse needs to work on his D, yes but when garcia catches one of those straight rights from LM his gameplan would go out the window

His D is way better than Brandon Rios........that kid is gonna get hurt bad one of these bouts, with his style he doesn't have a long shelf life


...don't be shocked if he gets cashed out against Pac-Man...

 

[Skip b]

Matthyse needs to work on his D, yes but when garcia catches one of those straight rights from LM his gameplan would go out the window

im done here regarding Garcia

 

[patscorpio]

Word, Ajose took some shyt

-fukking Robbie Peden, I can't believe Campbell took that L in the first fight like that

-SD was some BS though, **** clearly lost to Garcia


Speaking of ****, he's in negotiations to face Lamont Peterson for the IBF belt...guess Judah backed out...

why would judah back out? he won the ibf eliminator...i heard the rumblings about garcia-judah being in the works..that shyt better not come off

 

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