Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Axum Ezana]

Crawford cannot lose the belts even if he loses the fight. Molina agreed to give up an undisclosed five-figure payment of his $400,000 purse to Crawford, who will add it to his $1.5 million purse, to go through with the fight. Crawford cannot lose the belts even if he loses the fight. Molina agreed to give up an undisclosed five-figure payment of his $400,000 purse to Crawford, who will add it to his $1.5 million purse, to go through with the fight.

so damn craw got almost 2 mill for molina

 

[Black_Jesus]

I had the bc AB was asking for that same amount/upside & Arum said it was an "outrageous demand", only to possibly turn around & give it too Crawford

Crawford should get around $4 million & ppv upside though...I agree.

Buscuits wanted $10 million

They tried to offer him $4 million guaranteed

 

[Axum Ezana]

Buscuits wanted $10 million

They tried to offer him $4 million guaranteed

naw he wanted 6 mill with upside. right?

 

[Black_Jesus]

naw he wanted 6 mill with upside. right?

Nah breh..

Broner wanted $10 million

ADRIEN BRONER BLASTS BOB ARUM ABOUT PACQUIAO FIGHT: "PAY ME WHAT I DESERVE" || FIGHTHYPE.COM

Broner: I'd F*** Pacquiao Up, Nobody Wants To See Pac-Vargas! - Boxing News

 

[reservoirdogs]

He'll never mention AB...that's why he's "The RING Champion" & still ain't truly the man to face at 140

And AB doesn't need him at all...we easily the bigger name & draw. We looking for Pacquiao.

Really? Who did Broner beat in 140 to make it depend who's the man in 140 whether if he mentions Broner's name or not?

I doN't want to start this whole Broner vs Crawford debate from the beginning here but you gotta understand that the world doesn't revolve around Broner. Fighters in both 140 and 147 living their life without feeling much urge to mention him.
And not because they are scared of him cause it's proven that he is beatable and if he is that huge of a draw you say he's even a lucrative payday but simply because he didn't truly get back his relevancy what he had before Maidana or even before Porter. Boxing is a cruel sport where one mistake can push you to oblivion and 2 losses hurt a fighter's overall reputation in most cases.

He isn't usually mentioned on the level where Crawford or Thurman or Bradley or Porter and etc... cause on his last step up fight he lost clearly.
He started to build himself back, sure but he didn't reach the level yet where not mentioning him would be equal to remove someone from the #1 spot especially that he never was the undeniable king of 140 or anything like that.

Crawford in the meantime defeated Postol and almost all of the boxing world agreed that it was the #1 of 140 vs the #2 of 140, that's why Crawford is the man in 140 now, like it or not.


So... Crawford is already established himself as the number 1 fighter in 140 from this point it's up to everyone else to challenge him and grow up to a level where people will even start to questioning whether Crawford is really the #1 of the weightclass after he just beat the guy most people touted as the clear #1 or #2 (after the fight #2) and not the other way around.

I don't tell to you to change your opinion on Broner cause that ain't gonna happen just cause I say so I just say that don't be so surprised if not everybody talks about him 0-24 cause the usual opinion on him is that he still climbs his way back and he isn't there yet... The world goes without him too.

I'd really see a Broner vs Postol fight and I'd bet it would be a lot closer than most of you Broner fans would think even if Broner could find a way to win
And I won't get lost into all the resumes and triangle theories now I just say that's what I see, that's what the eye test says so fukk it...

 

[Black_Jesus]

Get beat by Shawn Porter and Marcos Maidana.. have your best fight at 140 be against some nikka name Khabib then believe you can demand $10 million from Bob Arum brehs

 

[reservoirdogs]

Get beat by Shawn Porter and Marcos Maidana.. have your best fight at 140 be against some nikka name Khabib then believe you can demand $10 million from Bob Arum brehs

true but so is Pac's 20 million demand for Crawford

He knows already that h might lose that so he either tries to cash the fukk out one last time (or if he wins not last time) or he want to price himself out cause at he age of 38 he ain't need that drama

All the interviews and etc... point in that direction

when his team said Crawford has an awkward style and that's why they picked Jessie fukking Vargas and etc...

 

[SuikodenII]

 

[SuikodenII]

 

[Newzz]

Really? Who did Broner beat in 140 to make it depend who's the man in 140 whether if he mentions Broner's name or not?

I doN't want to start this whole Broner vs Crawford debate from the beginning here but you gotta understand that the world doesn't revolve around Broner. Fighters in both 140 and 147 living their life without feeling much urge to mention him.
And not because they are scared of him cause it's proven that he is beatable and if he is that huge of a draw you say he's even a lucrative payday but simply because he didn't truly get back his relevancy what he had before Maidana or even before Porter. Boxing is a cruel sport where one mistake can push you to oblivion and 2 losses hurt a fighter's overall reputation in most cases.

He isn't usually mentioned on the level where Crawford or Thurman or Bradley or Porter and etc... cause on his last step up fight he lost clearly.
He started to build himself back, sure but he didn't reach the level yet where not mentioning him would be equal to remove someone from the #1 spot especially that he never was the undeniable king of 140 or anything like that.

Crawford in the meantime defeated Postol and almost all of the boxing world agreed that it was the #1 of 140 vs the #2 of 140, that's why Crawford is the man in 140 now, like it or not.


So... Crawford is already established himself as the number 1 fighter in 140 from this point it's up to everyone else to challenge him and grow up to a level where people will even start to questioning whether Crawford is really the #1 of the weightclass after he just beat the guy most people touted as the clear #1 or #2 (after the fight #2) and not the other way around.

I don't tell to you to change your opinion on Broner cause that ain't gonna happen just cause I say so I just say that don't be so surprised if not everybody talks about him 0-24 cause the usual opinion on him is that he still climbs his way back and he isn't there yet... The world goes without him too.

I'd really see a Broner vs Postol fight and I'd bet it would be a lot closer than most of you Broner fans would think even if Broner could find a way to win
And I won't get lost into all the resumes and triangle theories now I just say that's what I see, that's what the eye test says so fukk it...

You wrote all this for nothing breh. Fighting AB = your biggest payday at 140. Period.

There's no short list of fighters who wish to get in the ring with AB, they all want too bc his name/draw > anyone else's in the class.

John Molina got 400k to face Crawford AFTER coming off of 2 straight wins including beating Provodnikov....Molina got 450k to face Broner coming off 2 straight losses including being KOd by Matthysse


Broner's name rings more bells than Crawford's does...even with Crawford being the RING Champion. It's not even arguable.


To get the belts, you go through Crawford...but if you wanna make the $$$? The $$$ & recognition stays with Broner. It just is what it is breh

 

[Newzz]

Crawford vs. Broner: Bob Arum is Open To Making The Fight - Boxing News

@Black_Jesus AB asked for $4 million + PPV upside.... @reservoirdogs posted this himself, but he must've forgot bc he dapped your false info

@hyperman25 @synistr




Biggest thing I took away, is that Broner only asked for $4 million + PPV % to fight Pacquiao and TR/Arum acted like what Broner was asking for was too much, when it was simply to get the exact same payday as Bradley got in April.

Let me post the article too



Crawford vs. Broner: Bob Arum is Open To Making The Fight


By Keith Idec

Bob Arum intends to again present Terence Crawford as an option for Manny Pacquiao’s next fight.

If Pacquiao and his trainer, Freddie Roach, continue to pass on a Crawford fight, Arum won’t let failed negotiations for a Pacquiao-Adrien Broner bout earlier this year deter him from trying to make a Crawford-Broner battle in 2017.



“Broner would be good,” Arum told BoxingScene.com. “That would be an interesting fight for Crawford. You’ve got to understand, I don’t hold it against anybody who’s negotiating a contract, even if they ask for a crazy amount of money. They’re not violating any contract by doing that, so whatever it is it is.

“I would certainly talk to Al [Haymon] about the possibility of him fighting Crawford, should Crawford not fight Pacquiao. Then it would be up to Al to deliver him for a correct price.”

A source with knowledge of the negotiations confirmed to BoxingScene.com that Broner sought a $4 million guarantee to fight Pacquiao (59-6-2, 38 KOs) last year, plus a portion of the pay-per-view revenue. It was widely reported that the former three-division champion wanted a $6 million guarantee, plus pay-per-view upside, though the aforementioned source said that is not true.

Crawford capped an impressive 2016 on Saturday night by knocking out John Molina Jr. in the eighth round in Omaha, Nebraska, Crawford’s hometown. The unbeaten WBC/WBO super lightweight champion made $1.5 million for facing Molina (29-7, 23 KOs) and doesn’t figure to fight again until sometime in the spring. A 140-pound title fight against Broner is an attractive alternative to Pacquiao for Crawford (30-0, 20 KOs), who doesn’t have many high-profile options within his weight class. When asked by HBO’s Max Kellerman on Saturday night who he would like to fight if a Pacquiao showdown doesn’t materialize, Crawford mentioned a rematch against Scotland’s Ricky Burns (41-5-1, 14 KOs), the WBA world super lightweight title-holder, and newly crowned IBF super lightweight champion Julius Indongo (21-0, 11 KOs). Neither a fight against Burns, whom Crawford beat by unanimous decision to win the WBO world lightweight title in March 2014 in Glasgow, nor a bout with Indongo would earn Crawford nearly as much money or attention as boxing Broner. The polarizing Broner (32-2, 24 KOs) is scheduled to end what will be a 10-month layoff against Adrian Granados (18-4-2, 12 KOs) on February 11 in Chattanooga, Tennessee (Showtime). If Broner beats Granados, who upset then-unbeaten Amir Imam last year, and a Pacquiao-Crawford fight doesn’t happen, Arum would explore a Crawford-Broner bout. - See more at: Crawford vs. Broner: Bob Arum is Open To Making The Fight - Boxing News





But it's okay....he can give it to Crawford instead, bc I still doubt Pac faces him

 

[reservoirdogs]

@Black_Jesus AB asked for $4 million + PPV upside.... @reservoirdogs posted this himself, but he must've forgot bc he dapped your false info

All I remembered that he asked too much in my opinion and I always said that. 4 millions or 6...
You can look it back if you want.

That's why I dapped the post, cause overall I agree with the statement even if the exact numbers are not the same

and cause I forgot the exact number too

 

[Black_Jesus]

true but so is Pac's 20 million demand for Crawford

He knows already that h might lose that so he either tries to cash the fukk out one last time (or if he wins not last time) or he want to price himself out cause at he age of 38 he ain't need that drama

All the interviews and etc... point in that direction

when his team said Crawford has an awkward style and that's why they picked Jessie fukking Vargas and etc...

You might wanna check your tone when speaking about the last Fighter of The Decade breh breh
Pac can do what he wants, when he wants.. If Pac feels its time to cashout then they need to come up with the cash . Pac dont need nunna these nikkas.. If they aint tryng to take a career high payday then fawkem

 

[reservoirdogs]

You wrote all this for nothing breh. Fighting AB = your biggest payday at 140. Period.

There's no short list of fighters who wish to get in the ring with AB, they all want too bc his name/draw > anyone else's in the class.

John Molina got 400k to face Crawford AFTER coming off of 2 straight wins including beating Provodnikov....Molina got 450k to face Broner coming off 2 straight losses including being KOd by Matthysse


Broner's name rings more bells than Crawford's does...even with Crawford being the RING Champion. It's not even arguable.


To get the belts, you go through Crawford...but if you wanna make the $$$? The $$$ & recognition stays with Broner. It just is what it is breh

Okay man, I still don't think Broner is that huge of a draw as you think but idec...

Maybe Broner is the biggest name in 140, I don't know... , perhaps true, but not the best (according to me at least) and that's the most important to me. I talked abut being #1 as a fighter not as a draw

 

[reservoirdogs]

You might wanna check your tone when speaking about the last Fighter of The Decade breh breh
Pac can do what he wants, when he wants.. If Pac feels its time to cashout then they need to come up with the cash . Pac dont need nunna these nikkas.. If they aint tryng to take a career high payday then fawkem

How you expect me to talk about someone who wants me dead