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for someone with the style of Canelo (to most styles tbh) there will be a certain style which will be hard to overcome.

think about this though... He was barely 24 years old and still not in his prime when he fought Lara and he already beat him even if it was close. Lara who is - but especially was then.... - acknowledged as some of the best boxers from the pure "boxer style" (not resume wise but generally, based on general recognition) which is known from being the worst possible style for someone like Canelo.
As I'm thinking about it JMM was also an elite fighter of his era, he gave a fighter like prime Pac hell every time they fought but he still lost on a stinker against Chris John and he still got beaten by Nordwood. He just couldn't overcome the style disadvantages. And that's why I say I think it's a big thing that Canelo did this when he was not even in his prime. :yeshrug: and losing to Mayweather... everybody lost to him and almost everybody by a wide margin... Pac was elite and he lost to 118-110/117-111 or so... :manny:

I can understand your viewpoint too by the way I just see this differently.
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All this is the reason I don't think he's elite:manny:


He's definitely a very good fighter, but I don't see him as an elite fighter at all....and it's mainly because of those reasons listed above:yeshrug:


I think he's good enough to beat other good fighters, but I don't think he's good enough to beat A fighters.:manny:

Whom is their even A level at Caneloweight 154-164.5 that he could fight? Keep in mind, you're using the same criteria for other fighters as you are for Canelo.

@krackdagawd would like your opinion as well breh
 

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Whom is their even A level at Caneloweight 154-164.5 that he could fight? Keep in mind, you're using the same criteria for other fighters as you are for Canelo.

@krackdagawd would like your opinion as well breh

GGG is a proven A fighter as Floyd was. He didn't even compete with Floyd and I think GGG beats him.


Good enough to beat B fighters, but not A fighters.


I think Canelo is a B+ fighter. Do you think Canelo is as skilled as Oscar Valdez and Mikey Garcia as a pure Boxer?
 
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GGG is a proven A fighter as Floyd was. He didn't even compete with Floyd and I think GGG beats him.


Good enough to beat B fighters, but not A fighters.


I think Canelo is a B+ fighter.
Well if you're going by your criteria you grade Canelo in, Triple G ain't an A fighter breh :mjlol: Seriously?
 

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Said nothing about Haymon getting slandered by Golden Boy employees...but wanna push for Angel to be suspended for the fight:camby:


He's a clown for that:camby:


Exactly....5,000 word essay Cuz of "bytch ass nikka" really?? :martin:


Then he leading the readers to believe Angel said it with the hard R :stopitslime:

Clearly states a different DSG member called Keith a fakkitt but still wants Angel to pay for it

N the dumbest part in the whole damn article creates scenarios where Angel "could" go off N scenarios where Angel attacks Thurman etc to cosign his dumb ass article

That's the exact same bullshyt the Cacs N Trump do with the immigrants... Create a scenario of fear to rationalize shytting on them

This muhfukker goes omg he talked bad about immigrants:picard:

Then proceeds to use the anti immigrant playbook against Angel (use fear make up scenarios) to make himself feel right:gucci:


I hope Angel calls em all fakkitts next week :manny:


N I'm in agreement with Thurman that wasn't the time or place to be calling muhfukkers bytch ass nikka...but come tf on :beli:
 

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Well if you're going by your criteria you grade Canelo in, Triple G ain't an A fighter breh :mjlol: Seriously?

GGG hasn't had a competitive fight in his career outside of Ouma...and he knocked him out.

He basically destroyed every single opponent in his path and that's something an A fighter does.

He fights Danny Jacobs next, he's gonna destroy him too....and Jacobs is a good Middleweight.

Canelo had close fights with Lara and Trout, both are on the same level as Jacobs
 

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GGG hasn't had a competitive fight in his career outside of Ouma...and he knocked him out.

He basically destroyed every single opponent in his path and that's something an A fighter does.

He fights Danny Jacobs next, he's gonna destroy him too....and Jacobs is a good Middleweight.

Canelo had close fights with Lara and Trout, both are on the same level as Jacobs

Canelo has close fights with Lara and Trout how many years ago? Who's the best name on triple G's resume? Kell Brook ? I mean seriously breh.......?
 

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GGG hasn't had a competitive fight in his career outside of Ouma...and he knocked him out.

He basically destroyed every single opponent in his path and that's something an A fighter does.

He fights Danny Jacobs next, he's gonna destroy him too....and Jacobs is a good Middleweight.

Canelo had close fights with Lara and Trout, both are on the same level as Jacobs

My nikka you better stop making sense, or cats will think you turning your back on the ginger one again. :mjlol:
 

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My nikka you better stop making sense, or cats will think you turning your back on the ginger one again. :mjlol:
Ain't triple G 10yrs older than canelo? Has he also not faced an opponent as good as three of Canelo's? Yes or no breh?

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GGG is a proven A fighter as Floyd was. He didn't even compete with Floyd and I think GGG beats him.


Good enough to beat B fighters, but not A fighters.


I think Canelo is a B+ fighter. Do you think Canelo is as skilled as Oscar Valdez and Mikey Garcia as a pure Boxer?

Pure boxing skill I think Canelo is an A, he has leaky footwork and stamina.
 

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Pure boxing skill I think Canelo is an A, he has leaky footwork and stamina.

There's nothing wrong with you saying you think he's an A fighter and me saying Canelo's a B+ fighter...it's close.

I think Canelo is a really good fighter, but I just need to see him beat someone that's a good fighter while doing it clearly.
 
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