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[The axe murderer]

Sullivan Barrera Reacts To "Scared" Claims of Artur Beterbiev
By Team Sullivan Barrera
Artur,
Yesterday, you decided to go to the internet and social media as you have tried to do in the past and paint your own picture of the IBF eliminator bout between yourself and Sullivan Barrera. Maybe your propaganda works in Russia and in Canada but not in the United States. The fact is this fight was doomed to fail from the beginning and you can only look to your fake promoter for reasons and excuses.
First, your promoter decided not to negotiate with Barrera’s promoter Main Events and asked to go to an immediate purse bid. You immediately told the world on your social media account that the fight would be March 4th in Brooklyn, New York. Sullivan Barrera started training for this bout but no contract ever came for this bout.
After your promoter won the purse bid, he then told the world the fight would be in late March or early April in New York. Sullivan continued to train for that bout but again no contract ever came from your promoter.

Then, a few days before your promoter was obligated to meet the IBF’s deadline to send Sullivan Barrera a bout agreement for the eliminator, he is quoted in a Canadian news article about a possible cancellation of the bout if you would not be able to get a visa to enter the United States. You then had to go to your social media to try and correct your own promoter’s quotes and continue to push him to make the bout happen rather than bring up possible excuses to cancel the bout.
Next, your promoter tried to tell the world that the bout would be April 21st in Miami. But following the same pattern, a contract from your promoter never came for that bout either. Instead, he tried to send improper agreements to Main Events with various dates and sites that were all contingent on “financial backers” and could be cancelled and postponed at any time which is against IBF rules. If your promoter didn’t want to negotiate with Main Events in the first place and won the purse bid, why is he trying to make side deals with Main Events instead of just sending a bout agreement?
It was also learned that even after your promoter failed to meet the IBF deadline to submit a proper bout agreement to Barrera with the actual date, site, and location of the bout, he was still reaching out to local promoters in the Miami area and asking them for large amounts of money for the rights to put on the fight in Miami. One of those promoters actually contacted Barrera’s manager and asked his manager to help pay Yvon Michel and finance the bout.
Hopefully you can see how all of these actions (and inactions) raised tremendous concern in the camp of Sullivan Barrera that your promoter was grasping at straws and was not going to be able to properly deliver on the bout. He was in violation of the IBF rules governing the winner of a purse bid and kept trying to find ways around it. As of yesterday, he still wasn’t providing specific information on the site of the bout and at no time has the bout ever been listed on the schedules of any of the main boxing venues in Miami or on any schedule for U.S. television.
While it was always questionable whether your promoter could actually promote a fight of this magnitude in the United States when he has yet to ever do so, we no longer wanted to wait and find out the hard way. Barrera was simply not going to play these games any longer. After training for weeks and spending his own money with little to no certainty as to whether the bout would actually take place, enough became enough. Your promoter got what he wanted and you can thank him for the cancellation of this bout.
Artur, you are a great fighter with a great future. You will either take tough bouts against the best in the light heavyweight division like Sullivan Barrera has done or go the way of your countryman Adonis Stevenson and avoid tough bouts at all costs. You will either be a part of the propaganda and games

Sullivan Barrera Reacts To "Scared" Claims of Artur Beterbiev - Boxing News

 

[MoroccanBoy]

If you think Amir Khan fought the same Maidana that AB & Floyd fought, it speaks more to the lack of Boxing knowledge you have




You compared that fight clown



I specifically said:






AB jumped 2 divisions and won the Championship.....Shook jumped 2 divisions and got his face broken






He's the B-Side to everyone because he's not relevant



Get your numbers and fanbase up lad






Broner has 2 Championships and has a record of 7-2 over 135.


Shook lasted less than 15 minutes outside of the Welterweight division and got both his "0" & his eye sight taken


Before the fight it was:

“I’m a different fighter to Macklin and Murray,” said Brook, who is a massive underdog. “Totally different.

"I’ve seen it all. You know yourself, they are not on my level. I bring something completely different to the table than Macklin and Murray.

“I don’t know how to lose, I’m spiteful.

“I love proving people wrong and getting this win will be the sweetest thing for me. Everyone is writing me off and I will shock everyone.

"It’s going to be so lovely afterwards when I’m talking to you and telling you.'I told you so.'"

Brook says he should be the new pound-for-pound No1 if he beats Golovkin




After only 6 minutes into his campaign 2 divisions above, it switched too:

‘I can’t see out of the right eye, Dominic’

Kell Brook: Trainer saved my career by throwing in towel against Gennady Golovkin











That fight, he went 12............he didn't have his corner throw in the towel



He took his beating for 36 minutes and STILL ended the fight on his feet.



Shook's corner had to save his career and throw in the towel

You lasted less than 15 minutes outside of the only division he ever fought in, and you're proud of that..........as if he finished the fight





Kell Shook fans are really #SpecialOnes, I tell you



Yall REAL special

This is why nobody likes Americans

 

[Newzz]

This is why nobody likes Americans

But yet you're posting on an American site chap

 

[MoroccanBoy]

But yet you're posting on an American site chap

British forums are

They don't exist because there is nothing going on in Britain to talk about. And it's such a police state that every post I make has been recorded. The mi5 which is the British cia is allowed to hoard all of citizens internet data, record our phone calls and texts basically every single move is being watched and recorded. And they are allowed to do this legally. But that's for another thread

 

[Newzz]

British forums are

They don't exist because there is nothing going on in Britain to talk about. And it's such a police state that every post I make has been recorded. The mi5 which is the British cia is allowed to hoard all of citizens internet data, record our phone calls and texts basically every single move is being watched and recorded. And they are allowed to do this legally. But that's for another thread

If you was my breh Yo Moms, then yeah...I'd care.



But since you aren't:

That's what you get for living in England and thinking yall are better than America

 

[Knicksman20]

But yet you're posting on an American site chap

His posting style reminds me of those Brits at boxing scene that were hyping up Ricky Hatton & others my dude cole cash should remember

 

[reservoirdogs]

Frank Warren: Gervonta Davis, Like Lacy, Will Return Without Title


by Frank Warren

When Gervonta Davis burst onto the global scene and parted Jose Pedraza from his IBF world super featherweight title back in January, the commentators and pundits were lavish with the praise and plaudits over the exploits of the Baltimore banger.

Terms such as ‘a star is born’ and ‘the future of boxing’ were bandied about but, as far as I’m concerned, his future in the company of that IBF belt will be a short-lived one.

I do agree that Davis looks a great talent and could end up being a little bit special, but he is now going to be tested like never before.

On May 20, ‘Tank’ Davis travels to London’s Copper Box Arena for a mandatory defence of his title against our own Liam Walsh and I am anticipating an absolutely epic encounter.

I imagine Liam is already being written off in some quarters and that is because people simply don’t realise how good he is. To my mind, he has been a world champion in waiting for some years now, but unfortunately he has been struck by misfortune on a number of occasions.



He is now in full working order and, I believe, the time is right for him to show the world what he is all about.

For me, Liam ticks all the boxes. Whatever is required for him to win a fight, he can do. He possesses incredible skills and can bang, while he also hugely courageous and can mix it with the best of them.

Devising a gameplan to capitalise and any weak points is pretty much a futile exercise because there really can’t be that much to work on.

Liam is something of a perfectionist and he won his shot at the title via a final eliminator against the Russian Andrey Klimov in October.

Klimov is known to be a tough customer – who was coming off a points defeat to the then champion Pedraza – so Liam opted to box clever and proceeded to completely bamboozle his opponent with his shot selection and footwork.

It was boxing artistry and Klimov barely laid a glove on him.

However, in his post-fight interview afterwards, Liam was almost crestfallen despite his shut-out victory on two of the cards.

Even though he carried out his assignment to near perfection, Liam was down on himself because he didn’t feel he had delivered entertainment value for the fans.



Let me tell you though, if he had let his hands go and then taken one on the chin from Klimov, he would’ve then got it in the neck from his tight knit corner team of brothers Liam and Michael, plus his underrated trainer Graham Everett.

The fight was won and the big prize was in sight, so they were right to rein him in.

Liam was naturally disappointed when the IBF sanctioned Davis to jump the queue and face Pedraza, but now he couldn’t be happier.

He gets to take on one of the biggest noises in American boxing on home territory and I make him right in what he suggested at the press conference on Tuesday at London’s Savoy Hotel.

He said this is a fight that can’t fail to deliver and I am delighted our negotiations with Floyd Mayweather’s team resulted in us being able to showcase it to the fans over here.

The Money team are supremely confident of returning home with the spoils, but I recall similar bravado being displayed by the team of Jeff Lacy, when the then unbeaten super middleweight rocked up in Manchester for a unification match against Joe Calzaghe in March 2006.

I admire Davis for having the bottle to put it on the line in what will be a packed and hostile environment but I strongly suspect, like Lacy, he will be returning home empty handed.

- See more at: Frank Warren: Gervonta Davis, Like Lacy, Will Return Without Title - Boxing News

 

[MoroccanBoy]

If you was my breh Yo Moms, then yeah...I'd care.



But since you aren't:

That's what you get for living in England and thinking yall are better than America

Where did I say they are better? Nobody likes Americans. But also nobody like British people because they are racist idiots who have no culture of their own except binge drinking alcohol.

I don't consider myself British I was just born here and and I use the British passport.

As soon as my suspended sentence and probation is finished I'm leaving this country. it's a bigger joke than America.

 

[Newzz]

His posting style reminds me of those Brits at boxing scene that were hyping up Ricky Hatton & others

UK Boxing fans overrate anyone from the UK with even the smallest semblance of talent

 

[MoroccanBoy]

His posting style reminds me of those Brits at boxing scene that were hyping up Ricky Hatton & others my dude cole cash should remember

Who hyped up Ricky hatton? The dikkhead binge drinking culture hyped him up as their hero. He was overrated as a boxer. Had poor defense and boxing skills. Had an awful holding style and was on cocaine for the majority of his career. Don't ever compare me to those dikkheads again.

 

[Newzz]

Where did I say they are better? Nobody likes Americans. But also nobody like British people because they are racist idiots who have no culture of their own except binge drinking alcohol.

I don't consider myself British I was just born here and and I use the British passport.

As soon as my suspended sentence and probation is finished I'm leaving this country. it's a bigger joke than America.

#SpecialOnes







Suspended sentence and probation? Breh, you aint getting into any trouble over there... :forreal:

 

[Knicksman20]

Who hyped up Ricky hatton? The dikkhead binge drinking culture hyped him up as their hero. He was overrated as a boxer. Had poor defense and boxing skills. Had an awful holding style and was on cocaine for the majority of his career. Don't ever compare me to those dikkheads again.

Substitute Hatton & put Brook in & you'd fit right in with them I'm not even exaggerating

 

[MoroccanBoy]

UK Boxing fans overrate anyone from the UK with even the smallest semblance of talent

I hype brook because he's actually a brilliant fighter. Levels and levels above the British scene. Froch was worth hyping up. I'm not sold on Joshua. Haye was an atg cruiserweight. Khan is awful nobody hyped him up except the giant Pakistani community in England.

Show me what British fighter I hype up.

 

[MoroccanBoy]

Substitute Hatton & put Brook in & you'd fit right in with them I'm not even exaggerating

You're wrong tho. English people hate Kell Brook for some reason and want nothing to do with him. They think Khan beats him. Only boxing fans know about Kell Brook over here. Completely different scene.

 

[Newzz]

I hype brook because he's actually a brilliant fighter. Levels and levels above the British scene. Froch was worth hyping up. I'm not sold on Joshua. Haye was an atg cruiserweight. Khan is awful nobody hyped him up except the giant Pakistani community in England.

Show me what British fighter I hype up.

You're new breh...what do you mean, show you "what British fighter" you hype up. You only have 199 posts


However, you're hyping up Brook who's only win vs a legit opponent was a close SD win over Shawn Porter. You're hyping him as undoubtedly better than everyone around his weight class....and if that's the case, the Porter fight shouldn't have been close, because Porter is not elite himself at WW