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[patscorpio]

so no Salido?

other than lucas making his return..hopefully on the road to glory..this card isnt anything really

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Blame ODLH for Canelo for signing his name down to face certain opponents?


Nah....Canelo has enough pull to face WHOEVER he wants. If he agrees to face Lemieux, im not blaming DLH...that's Canelo's call


Also, under ODLH with no Schaefer, Canelo has been making big $$$ for less threatening opponents, which would be many fighter's dream



Canelo's last 4 opps under Schaefer: Austin Trout, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Alfredo Angulo, and Erislandy Lara

Canelo's last 4 opps under De La Hoya: James Kirkland, Miguel Cotto, Amir Khan, and Liam Smith



I cant blame Canelo for sticking it out with GBP, because they are moving him the best way in regards to his preserving his health and increasing his bank account

canelo went out of his way to demand lara and trout. even shaefer said he didn't really want to make those fights at the time but canelo forced them. that's why I'll always love canelo



and I either wanna see triple L or danny Jacobs after Chavez. lemieux isn't in canelo's league. the only positive is that he's little g's best win and if canelo fought him they would finally share a mutual opponent with one another. it would be an exciting fight that I wouldn't mind to see. only after 97g or danny jacobs.

 

[reservoirdogs]

other than lucas making his return..hopefully on the road to glory..this card isnt anything really

I swear if they really tryna force Lemieux vs Canelo...

At this point it's frustrating as fukk cause I'm confident in Canelo beating GGG but seems like his fukking promoter still scared...

 

[patscorpio]

I swear if they really tryna force Lemieux vs Canelo...

At this point it's frustrating as fukk cause I'm confident in Canelo beating GGG but seems like his fukking promoter still scared...

then i guess you gotta hope canelo beats jr but lemieux loses to reyes

 

[reservoirdogs]

Blame ODLH for Canelo for signing his name down to face certain opponents?


Nah....Canelo has enough pull to face WHOEVER he wants. If he agrees to face Lemieux, im not blaming DLH...that's Canelo's call


Also, under ODLH with no Schaefer, Canelo has been making big $$$ for less threatening opponents, which would be many fighter's dream



Canelo's last 4 opps under Schaefer: Austin Trout, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Alfredo Angulo, and Erislandy Lara

Canelo's last 4 opps under De La Hoya: James Kirkland, Miguel Cotto, Amir Khan, and Liam Smith



I cant blame Canelo for sticking it out with GBP, because they are moving him the best way in regards to his preserving his health and increasing his bank account

That's your opinion man, but I doubt it, I gave respect Canelo or achieving to have the fight with Trout and Lara, two fights what p*ssy ass Oscar (as a promoter of course not as a fighter) and his team also didn't want so how I gonna act then if it would be his fault that he can't get the Golovkin fight...? He has to fight constantly with his team and if he finally can't that's his fault?
In cases like this I rather blame the promoter than the fighter and most of the cases that's right.

If I blame Canelo for anything it's that he didn't kick out his team and promoter a long time ago. How you gonna keep people around you who don't even trust in your abilities and are scared to death that if you lose they will become irrelevant...? That's fukked up.

Oscar is a bad promoter and he still didn't get his shyt together he doesn't act like a mature businessman, he just likes the limelight and this is the way he can stay in it.
He got caught DUI last time too, what does that tell abut a supposedly top promoter? Would you put your future in the hands of a man like that?
If he doesn't change his approach real quick I hope Oscar just packs his stuff and gtfo the world of promoters. Same applie to Kathy Duva, and to those slimy ass crook Caribe Promotions

 

[krackdagawd]

That bald headed dude that wrote for boxingscene

He told word on the curb

Felix Diaz starting camp with Joel Diaz N working with Ariza

 

[krackdagawd]

canelo went out of his way to demand lara and trout. even shaefer said he didn't really want to make those fights at the time but canelo forced them. that's why I'll always love canelo



and I either wanna see triple L or danny Jacobs after Chavez. lemieux isn't in canelo's league. the only positive is that he's little g's best win and if canelo fought him they would finally share a mutual opponent with one another. it would be an exciting fight that I wouldn't mind to see. only after 97g or danny jacobs.

Canelo fukks Lemiuex up on some highlight reel shyt

I get the mutual opponent shyt but that's not a ppv I want to see at all.


Jacobs is too high risk low reward so it wouldn't surprise me if Canelo fights him if there is no ggg fight and get a struggle Lara/Trout win.

 

[Newzz]

canelo went out of his way to demand lara and trout. even shaefer said he didn't really want to make those fights at the time but canelo forced them. that's why I'll always love canelo

He did...he didn't have to face Lara, especially Lara, at all. If Ellerbe would've came to Floyd with Lara's name on a piece of paper, Floyd would've flat out 'd Lara's name in the garbage can like:

Canelo CHOSE them, just like he's allowed to choose Lemieux if he wants too (which Canelo vs Lemieux is not a bad fight at all being that Lemieux is a solid MW contender and Canelo still hasn't gotten his feet wet at 160 yet vs a real MW, so it would be a good gauge for him as well)

and I either wanna see triple L or danny Jacobs after Chavez. lemieux isn't in canelo's league. the only positive is that he's little g's best win and if canelo fought him they would finally share a mutual opponent with one another. it would be an exciting fight that I wouldn't mind to see. only after 97g or danny jacobs.

I agree.


If either of those fights cannot be made, then I wouldn't mind Lemieux getting that spot

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

That's your opinion man, but I doubt it, I gave respect Canelo or achieving to have the fight with Trout and Lara, two fights what p*ssy ass Oscar (as a promoter of course not as a fighter) and his team also didn't want so how I gonna act then if it would be his fault that he can't get the Golovkin fight...? He has to fight constantly with his team and if he finally can't that's his fault?
In cases like this I rather blame the promoter than the fighter and most of the cases that's right.

If I blame Canelo for anything it's that he didn't kick out his team and promoter a long time ago. How you gonna keep people around you who don't even trust in your abilities and are scared to death that if you lose they will become irrelevant...? That's fukked up.

Oscar is a bad promoter and he still didn't get his shyt together he doesn't act like a mature businessman, he just likes the limelight and this is the way he can stay in it.
He got caught DUI last time too, what does that tell abut a supposedly top promoter? Would you put your future in the hands of a man like that?
If he doesn't change his approach real quick I hope Oscar just packs his stuff and gtfo the world of promoters. Same applie to Kathy Duva, and to those slimy ass crook Caribe Promotions

Oscar is a clown but he still offered triple L 15 mil and ppv upside and he refused to sign it. I think most people here believe giving giving 97g 15 mil is ridiculous. he's done nothing to prove he's worth the money Oscar offered him. that's 5 times more money than he made to fight Jacobs GUARANTEED. at what point do we start placing blame on little g?.....the guy said he does this for the love, not the business. then he gets offered a career high guarantee by far and he refuses to accept it. the fact is little g and his team LOVE this press they're getting right now. they have the media eating out of their hands. running with the angle that canelo is still shook and ignoring the fact that triple L was already offered 15 mil and declined. little g and his team know their time is almost up and are trying to milk this shyt for as long as possible. once canelo beats him, his whole shtick is over. the "boogeyman" shyt is the only thing he has going for him. once he gets beat, his marketability is OVER. we have to wait for the negotiations again. if little g keeps refusing outlandish paydays, the blame can't be placed on Oscar anymore.

 

[Axum Ezana]

u n mook finally standing behind a domincan krack?

yall act like yall couldn't get behind that hw George arias n Javier Fortuna.

 

[Newzz]

That's your opinion man, but I doubt it, I gave respect Canelo or achieving to have the fight with Trout and Lara, two fights what p*ssy ass Oscar (as a promoter of course not as a fighter) and his team also didn't want so how I gonna act then if it would be his fault that he can't get the Golovkin fight...?

At this point, the ball is in GGG's court. No way should he get more than a 25% split with Canelo.....his career PPV buy numbers (2 fights. vs Jacobs and vs Lemieux) are = to what Canelo did in 1 fight vs Angulo



GGG and his team wanted a split, 25% is fair enough, bc GGG is not a draw when it comes time to his fans putting their $$$ where their tweets/posts are

He has to fight constantly with his team and if he finally can't that's his fault?
In cases like this I rather blame the promoter than the fighter and most of the cases that's right.

Not in this case though. DLH has Canelo running the Boxing world and has him facing less than stellar opposition, while putting up the most PPV buys and making the biggest paydays. That's a win/win for a fighter if we being honest


Yeah, it sucks for the fan.....but Canelo is making easy bread right now. I cant see him being upset with how he's being matched when he checks his bank account and his face in the mirror after fights


He could fight GGG OR Lemieux tomorrow if he wanted too. It's up to Canelo what he wants to do. He calls his own shots at this point and ODLH, literally, works for him


That's 1 thing that Flex always says that's 100% truth....Canelo runs this. It's up to him to say who he wants, when he wants. If he wants Lemieux, bc GGG wont take the correct % their numbers SAY he does, then bring on Lemieux


Canelo Lottery

me Canelo for anything it's that he didn't kick out his team and promoter a long time ago. How you gonna keep people around you who don't even trust in your abilities and are scared to death that if you lose they will become irrelevant...? That's fukked up.

Who would do better with Canelo?


If you, and most hardcore fans had their way, Canelo would've already faced and lost to GGG in 2015.....instead, GGG is now 2 years older and showing vulnerabilities that weren't being exposed 2 years ago. The longer they wait, the better Canelo's odds are to beat GGG bc Canelo is entering his mental and physical prime while GGG is heading out of his

Oscar is a bad promoter and he still didn't get his shyt together he doesn't act like a mature businessman, he just likes the limelight and this is the way he can stay in it.
He got caught DUI last time too, what does that tell abut a supposedly top promoter? Would you put your future in the hands of a man like that?
If he doesn't change his approach real quick I hope Oscar just packs his stuff and gtfo the world of promoters. Same applie to Kathy Duva, and to those slimy ass crook Caribe Promotions

GBP are easily the 3rd best Promotional Company in Boxing.......and it's not even close breh.


Oscar is not a bad promoter at all, I disagree. I think his handling of Canelo, as a business, has been masterful. Again, he's making HUGE $$$ to face less than stellar opposition, and STILL does the most PPV buys while doing it.


If Canelo is suffering because he's being promoted by De La Hoya, who in the sport is being moved better?

 

[Newzz]

Oscar is a clown but he still offered triple L 15 mil and ppv upside and he refused to sign it. I think most people here believe giving giving 97g 15 mil is ridiculous. he's done nothing to prove he's worth the money Oscar offered him. that's 5 times more money than he made to fight Jacobs GUARANTEED. at what point do we start placing blame on little g?.....the guy said he does this for the love, not the business. then he gets offered a career high guarantee by far and he refuses to accept it. the fact is little g and his team LOVE this press they're getting right now. they have the media eating out of their hands. running with the angle that canelo is still shook and ignoring the fact that triple L was already offered 15 mil and declined. little g and his team know their time is almost up and are trying to milk this shyt for as long as possible. once canelo beats him, his whole shtick is over. the "boogeyman" shyt is the only thing he has going for him. once he gets beat, his marketability is OVER. we have to wait for the negotiations again. if little g keeps refusing outlandish paydays, the blame can't be placed on Oscar anymore.

And SOG is coming back down to 168 if GGG attempts to move up to SMW like Abel Sanchez says

“Once he has all the belts there’s no reason for him to stay there,” said trainer Abel Sanchez to K.O Artist Sports about Golovkin. “If the fight with Billy Joe Saunders gets made, which they’re talking about making in June, then his intentions are to move up because he’s done what he wanted. If they’re able to come up with an agreement that Gennady likes to fight the redhead, then we’ll fight the redhead. But if not, we’re going to go on and move to 168,” said Sanchez.

“He wants to fight in June. I it’s not Saunders, then it could be Tureano Johnson,” said Sanchez. “If the guys are bigger and can take it, better for us as fans. We get a better fight. Zurdo has made comments that he wants to fight him. Zurdo is the guy that has been more boisterous, so there’s a possibility. I’d like to see him [Golovkin] unify the 168 pound division like he did in the 160 lb. division. We’ll see who it is in June. Eventually, we’re going to move up to a new weight where they’re going to be bigger and they’re going to be able to take the punch. It’s beneficial in his mind that he knows he can go 12 and it’s not a problem. He was strong in the 12th [against Jacobs]. He was able to do things he wanted to do,” said Sanchez.


Golovkin will move to 168 after June if no Canelo fight says Sanchez » Boxing News

According to Hunter, Ward is fully capable of coming down to 168 - if the money is right. The veteran trainer believes Golovkin would present the right financial opportunity to consider a drop to 168.

"Of course he can make 168 - if the money is right. He is still a super middleweight," Hunter said.

"We have unfinished business at light heavyweight. I don't know if [Ward will] go back down. But he's not a light heavyweight, he's still a super middleweight. Time will tell if we move back down, but there shouldn't be any reason now on why he won't fight us. I don't think they could use those excuses again [that they used two years ago]. After we finish with Kovalev, if we decide to go back down, [we'd fight Golovkin]."

- See more at: Hunter Says Andre Ward Can Still Make 168 For Golovkin Fight - Boxing News



Gonna beat KKKovalev 1 more time, then go and vanquish GGG for good if he even attempts to move up to 168...........or he's gonna have to blatantly duck SOG




Chess....not checkers.

What a blessed way to end such an Angelic career......destroy 2 euro demons on the way out





#SOGGang

 

[Newzz]

When the Miguel Cotto-James Kirkland HBO PPV fight scheduled for Feb. 25 was canceled it left the rest of the fights on the card in limbo, including the bout between junior featherweight titlist Guillermo Rigondeaux (17-0, 11 KOs) and interim titlist Moises Flores (25-0, 17 KOs). The bout is scheduled to go to a WBA purse bid on April 3. Rigondeaux is entitled to a 75-25 split of the winning purse. Minimum bid is $120,000. The camps could still make a deal but if it goes to a purse bid and Rigondeaux promoter Roc Nation Sports wins there's a good chance the bout could wind up on the HBO PPV undercard of the Andre Ward-Sergey Kovalev light heavyweight title rematch, which is in the works for June 17. Both fighters would be coming off long layoffs. Rigondeaux has not fought since last July and Flores has been out of the ring since last June.

 

[patscorpio]

When the Miguel Cotto-James Kirkland HBO PPV fight scheduled for Feb. 25 was canceled it left the rest of the fights on the card in limbo, including the bout between junior featherweight titlist Guillermo Rigondeaux (17-0, 11 KOs) and interim titlist Moises Flores (25-0, 17 KOs). The bout is scheduled to go to a WBA purse bid on April 3. Rigondeaux is entitled to a 75-25 split of the winning purse. Minimum bid is $120,000. The camps could still make a deal but if it goes to a purse bid and Rigondeaux promoter Roc Nation Sports wins there's a good chance the bout could wind up on the HBO PPV undercard of the Andre Ward-Sergey Kovalev light heavyweight title rematch, which is in the works for June 17. Both fighters would be coming off long layoffs. Rigondeaux has not fought since last July and Flores has been out of the ring since last June.

these long layoffs man..the day rigo loses that im sure will be the reason why

 

[Newzz]

these long layoffs man..the day rigo loses that im sure will be the reason why

I just cant wait for all the boring jokes after a PPV with Rigo in the co-main and SOG in the Main event