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Angel Garcia: "...from China! Come to this fukkin country, on their fukkin TV channel...excuse the words, i'm gettin too..."

Interviewer: "Na you gooood..."

Angel Garcia: :ehh: "ok...COME TO THIS MOTHAfukkIN CHANNEL!!..."

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“Well I was going to spar with Canelo for this camp to help him prepare for Trout, however I saw him train and decided not to… he is too strong,” De la Hoya told us. “His fight with Trout reminds me of my fight with Quartey, not so much because of his style but before I fought Quartey I had my criticism. He is in that same position. This is his test.”

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I guess he's about to get a gift decision too then :mjpls:
 

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Father/Son team that worked - Trinidads N even tho it did I think Tito with a better trainer could have been even greater

maybe I am missing something here but....it depends on what you mean by "worked" there are a few father/son combos that worked...namely the Mosely's. the only thing was, once Shane was at his peak, he started to lose to better boxers who had physical advantages. (see Forrest and Wright)
Jack was certainly not a good coach/corner man technically. He was good at conditioning and training, but thats something different. Shane's lack of boxing ability became apparent to those in the know. I for one kept telling people....there was NO WAY Shane was going to beat FMJ. Even in their primes I would take Floyd because technically, he is far superior to Shane.

didnt Guty Espadas Jr win title with Sr training? cant remember exactly...and make no mistake about it...FMJ learned how to fight from FMS and was trained by him early in his pro career. FMS just went to jail which fractured the relationship. Roy Jones Jr learned from his pops. again, not sure what you mean by "worked". maybe not for an entire career but there was early success for all of these fighters mentioned above.
 

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A rematch and WBC world title eliminator between light heavyweights Tony Bellew and Isaac Chilemba has been added to the May 25 undercard for Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler II at the O2 Arena in London on Saturday May 25. Promoter Eddie Hearn confirmed today. Bellew-Chilemba I ended in a draw.

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In sad news, it has been reported that former top class heavyweight contender and former two-time world title challenger Carl “The Truth” Williams has passed away. Williams, just 53, lost a long battle with oesophageal cancer, passing away on April 7th.

Best known for his losing challenge of a peak Mike Tyson – when Williams was somewhat controversially stopped via TKO, when up and on his feet, in the opening round – Williams fought a number of other notable bouts.

His best performance was undoubtedly his close 15-round decision loss to an unbeaten Larry Holmes for the IBF title back in May of 1985. The long-armed Williams used his superb jab to great effect especially, with a good number of people feeling the challenger had done enough to have upset “The Easton Assassin.” Carl also fought notables such as Jesse Ferguson (WTKO10), Mike Weaver (LTKOby2), Bert Cooper (WRTD8), Trevor Berbick (WU12), Tim Witherspoon (LS12), Tommy Morrison (LTKO8) and Frank Bruno (LTKO10).

It was the Tyson fight of July 1989 that haunted Williams, however.

Decked by a hard left hook in the 1st-round, Williams, who had been taking the fight right to Tyson, beat the count but was deemed unable to carry on by referee Randy Neumann. To his dying day, “The Truth” insisted he could have carried on. Of course, we will never know.

A fine boxer, who also enjoyed a stellar amateur career, Williams retired with a 30-10(21) ledger. Carl boxed as a pro from January of 1982 to October of 1997. Condolences go out to his family and friends.

 
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Interview: James “Lights Out” Toney
Still Talking The Good Fight Ahead Of Australian Showdown With Unbeaten Lucas Browne

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By James Slater

Legend and former multi-weight ruler James Toney says he “has the fire back,” ahead of his upcoming (April 28th) Australian adventure with unbeaten giant Lucas “Big Daddy” Browne. Toney is 44-years-old now, and he has not fought since stopping a tough but overmatched Bobby Gunn a year ago.

Yet despite this, and the despite fact that “Lights Out” has not beaten a ranked heavyweight since his 2008 points win over Fres Oquendo, Toney feels he is not only back to his best, but that he is the best heavyweight out there. A big win over 33-year-old Browne, 15-0(14) will, Toney insists, lead to a fight with either “one of the Bitschko Sisters, or David Gaye.”

“I was told about this fight [with Browne] three weeks ago, and I went into camp right away,” Toney, 74-7-3(45) told Fightnews. “I don’t know anything about him and I don’t want to know. I’m gonna knock his ass out. I’ve got the fire back and I feel great. I’m out to show the people that I’m still the best; that I always will be the best.”

Toney says he has been in with big guys who had power before (James mentioned his fights with Sam Peter, who he says, he “ruined”) and he is not concerned with the power former MMA fighter Browne carries: all 6’4″ and approx 250-plus-pounds of him.

“I’m excited and I’m ready to go. I’ll box this guy, then knock him out. I’m in tremendous shape. I plan on coming in at around 220 to 225. It don’t matter what this guy tries to do – whatever he does it won’t be enough. I’ve watched no tapes of him, I never watch tapes of my opponent before any of my fights, ‘cos they never fight me the way they usually fight anyway.”

Toney listed a few names that are on his radar for after he defeats Browne.

“A bigger fight will have to happen for me after I beat this guy, sooner or later. I want the sisters (the Klitschkos), Gaye (Haye) – although he won’t come to the U.S for an ass whupping, he’ll stay away from me – and maybe [Antonio] Tarver, if he’s still a viable name. And I’d drop down in weight for Bernard Hopkins or a rematch with [Denis] Lebedev. My injured leg beat me [in November of 2011], not Lebedev. With me only having one leg, he should’ve KO’d me if he was any good. And Hopkins, he looked great in his last fight (against Tavoris Cloud), I can’t knock him. But I’m old-school – he’s old fool!”

After such a long career, Toney’s critics say he was past his best, even finished, some time ago. “Lights Out” says no way.

“I feel the same way I did before my (2003) fight with Evander Holyfield. That means he’s [Browne] in trouble! Put it out there, I’m the real heavyweight champion and I’m the best heavyweight out there. It’s time to fight now. I leave for Australia on April 19th, and I can’t wait.”

Interview: James “Lights Out” Toney
 
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