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[TheeDopeMan313]

I don't think Ortiz could beat Bradley. Bradley speed would be a factor. Plus Bradley did show heart in the last fight, something we all know isn't Victor's best attribute. I think Bradley could stop Victor, but if they fought, I'd give Bradley the UD

 

[Black_Jesus]

What has Ortiz done to even deserve a title shot against Bradley??

 

[Suiken]

Accept Pac was knocked out cold by Torrecampo also and he recovered from that... I think Pac could recover from this as well... he just needs to take it slow... he should be taking a tune up fight and avoiding champs for right now... it don't even have to be ppv... but I know the chances of that happening is slim

I believe it was a body shot that took him down in that fight and he was like... 15 years old? He was basically a high schooler taking a beating from a grown ass man (although he have a bigger frame)

[ame=http://youtu.be/pHxHNC0ntUg]Manny Pacquiao - First Loss - YouTube[/ame]

It was the same issue on his second loss.

[ame=http://youtu.be/UvhUI1WM9qU]Manny Pacquiao vs Medgoen Singsurat - YouTube[/ame]

Ricky Hatton and Floyd Sr tried to capitalized on body shot but Ricky fell before he can even try.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Ortiz fukking with Bradley? nikka stop it....

 

[Skip b]

mike can box a little but not enough to really trouble with someone who has speed and power like pac..plus he gets busted up pretty easy

i did see that interview with tim bradley you're talking about skip...dude did slur a couple words but it wasn't drastic and his voice was the same..its not obvious like rios...he prolly needs some more recovery time from that fight

You dont have to be no master classmen to hit pacquiao, Margarito jabbed Pacquiao 94 times, and hit him 229 times, Alvarado is a much better mover and with far better punching technique than Margarito

 

[patscorpio]

You dont have to be no master classmen to hit pacquiao, Margarito jabbed Pacquiao 94 times, and hit him 229 times, Alvarado is a much better mover and with far better punching technique than Margarito

but doesn't have margarito's stamina or durability though

 

[JohnStarksMiddleFinger]

What has Ortiz done to even deserve a title shot against Bradley??

That's what I'm saying.

Victor is a hard hitter and a great but he acting like Lil Lopez didnt crack his jaw.


I'd rather see my nikka Berto get these second chances.

 

[HARLEM AL]

What has Ortiz done to even deserve a title shot against Bradley??

Not a mothafukking thing....

 

[Black_Jesus]

That's what I'm saying.

Victor is a hard hitter and a great but he acting like Lil Lopez didnt crack his jaw.


I'd rather see my nikka Berto get these second chances.

Right... my thinking is always this... If you coming off a loss you should be trying to matchup with someone else coming off a loss, unless you can get a rematch with whoever you lost to... Cant be going after new champs win your last loss was by KO

 

[Skip b]

but doesn't have margarito's stamina or durability though

It doesn't matter cause Pacquiao doesn't have great stamina or durability post Margarito, Manny is now a last 30 second fighter, not to mention Pacquiao doesn't have the chin to withstand that punishment anymore, he got laid out by a average power Lightweight


Manny needs to be matched carefully like he has been for the last 5 or so years, Alvarado is a bad style matchup, tough, could punch and could adjust. If Manny was smart his team would push for Rios, the Rios match makes him more money

 

[Skip b]

Right... my thinking is always this... If you coming off a loss you should be trying to matchup with someone else coming off a loss, unless you can get a rematch with whoever you lost to... Cant be going after new champs win your last list was by KO

So are you gonna act like Bradley wasn't like 10 seconds from a brutal ko, before being saved by the bell. So what Ortiz chin got cracked he was winning whoever defends Bradley but shyt on Ortiz, is biased as fukk really

 

[TheNig]

What has Ortiz done to even deserve a title shot against Bradley??

Nothing but I think he will beat him. Bradley is a lil too wreckless. And as much of a softy Ortiz can be sometimes, if he hits you, you fukking know it. He could knock Bradley out with no problems.

 

[patscorpio]

It doesn't matter cause Pacquiao doesn't have great stamina or durability post Margarito, Manny is now a last 30 second fighter, not to mention Pacquiao doesn't have the chin to withstand that punishment anymore, he got laid out by a average power Lightweight


Manny needs to be matched carefully like he has been for the last 5 or so years, Alvarado is a bad style matchup, tough, could punch and could adjust. If Manny was smart his team would push for Rios, the Rios match makes him more money

i wouldn't call JMM an average puncher..dude has a high KO percentage ...and i wouldn't call the mexican rambo version of him that knocked manny cold average in any sense of the word...any 140-147 fighter would have been ko'ed if they walked right into that cross counter

i do agree manny needs a soft touch but who's to say mike wasn't softened up enough by the 2 rios fights lol

 

[Skip b]

i wouldn't call JMM an average puncher..dude has a high KO percentage ...and i wouldn't call the mexican rambo version of him that knocked manny cold average in any sense of the word...any 140-147 fighter would have been ko'ed if they walked right into that cross counter

i do agree manny needs a soft touch but who's to say mike wasn't softened up enough by the 2 rios fights lol

Who the fukk has JMM beat besides Pacquiao




So what he has a high KO percentage beating on Cans. As far as a soft touch goes, I feel Alvarado is a far better fighter than Rios and that showed in both matches, Rios only did want Mike allowed him too. I dont trust Manny with that fight coming off the KO, who's to say if he could recover mentally

Rios vs Manny
Prov vs Alvarado
Bradley vs JMM

Is the 3 fights that should be made

 

[JohnStarksMiddleFinger]

Who the fukk has JMM beat besides Pacquiao




So what he has a high KO percentage beating on Cans. As far as a soft touch goes, I feel Alvarado is a far better fighter than Rios and that showed in both matches, Rios only did want Mike allowed him too. I dont trust Manny with that fight coming off the KO, who's to say if he could recover mentally

Rios vs Manny
Prov vs Alvarado
Bradley vs JMM

Is the 3 fights hat should be made

Barrera?