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[patscorpio]

for the record i never thought khan was going to be shyt esp in a good number of fights before prescott he was getting wobbled by some light hitters. dude had the worst chin i'd seen come out of the amateurs into the pros since michael bennett. i thought he'd be out of the sport years ago but he has proved me wrong in that aspect. Part of it some improvements he made and the other part good careful match making. Now his whole selling point to watch his fights is whether or not he avoids getting ko'ed. i also think he's reached the highest peak of his ability he's ever going to reach and its only downhill from here now. Depending on if its going to be a fast or slow decline remains to be seen.

 

[surv2syn]

If Kahn had a chin he'd give Floyd problems

if Khan had a chin he would be the best JWW in the world. but he doesnt. so how is that even relevent?

 

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at Klitschko trying to duck that fade by refusing testing, when is the boxing world gonna call the Klits out for their bs, fighting at home where they could pull the strings, like Pederson, and Ward, not to mention that Vitali admittedly took roids tested positive and got kicked off the olympics

 

[HamAndEgger]

I think this also........................................



If the tournament was official it'll be official, they trying to build a Mayweather Pacquiao scenario with them 2, Garcia ducking, Garcia scared, etc, which Schaeffer lightweight let it be known for Matthysse, he gonna be the Pacquiao the loved fighter, ko'ing overmatched opponents for the time being while Danny continues to build heal heat. IMO it makes no sense for Garcia and Matthysse to fight now, when a year from now that could be a PPV fight............Think People Mayweather is retiring why kill one of their stars

I wonder where Alexander and Khan comes into this equation, GB looks like they wanted the Alexander fight for Khan to get a easy strap at 147 but after Saturday with Alexanders improvement, Khan dont want those type of problems at all, and the look on his face stated that

Well Alexander is out for a minute with a fractured hand. Not sure if and when the Khan fight happens.

 

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for the record i never thought khan was going to be shyt esp in a good number of fights before prescott he was getting wobbled by some light hitters. dude had the worst chin i'd seen come out of the amateurs into the pros since michael bennett. i'd thought he'd be out of the sport years ago but he has proved me wrong in that aspect. Part of it some improvements he made and the other part good careful match making. Now his whole selling point to watch his fights is whether or not he avoids getting ko'ed. i also think he's reached the highest peak of his ability he's ever going to reach and its only downhill from here now. Depending on if its going to be a fast or slow decline remains to be seen.

Quite honestly I feel his decline has already started, it was quite evident last match, his speed is shot IMO.

 

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Well Alexander is out for a minute with a fractured hand. Not sure if and when the Khan fight happens.

Espn said he'll be back by late October or September, Khan bum ass cant catch a break

 

[surv2syn]

for the record i never thought khan was going to be shyt esp in a good number of fights before prescott he was getting wobbled by some light hitters. dude had the worst chin i'd seen come out of the amateurs into the pros since michael bennett. i'd thought he'd be out of the sport years ago but he has proved me wrong in that aspect. Part of it some improvements he made and the other part good careful match making. Now his whole selling point to watch his fights is whether or not he avoids getting ko'ed. i also think he's reached the highest peak of his ability he's ever going to reach and its only downhill from here now. Depending on if its going to be a fast or slow decline remains to be seen.

listen....I just call it like I see it. I dont try and discredit guys. I give credit where credit is due. Khan got heart and if its up to him personally, I know he feels he can beat LM because he survived Maidana. Khan just has a weak chin.

LM. he has the power, but he headhunts and looks for early KO's. his weakness his, he can be outboxed early and late. if he cant get a fighter out...he is in jeapardy of losing because he doesnt put rounds in the bag. this is why Khan thinks he can beat him.

if Khan keep LM from landing those clean shots, he would surely win because you can bet he'd be up on the cards.

its a big if of course, but I wouldnt be shocked to see Khan win. I thought it was brave of his team to put him in against Maidana.

 

[surv2syn]

Quite honestly I feel his decline has already started, it was quite evident last match, his speed is shot IMO.

one of Khan's problems was messing with Roach. Roach doesnt seem to have fighters who are great defensively or particularly great counterpunchers. Roach's style is to play offense. Every fighter isnt Manny Pacquiao though.

 

[Skip b]

listen....I just call it like I see it. I dont try and discredit guys. I give credit where credit is due. Khan got heart and if its up to him personally, I know he feels he can beat LM because he survived Maidana. Khan just has a weak chin.

LM. he has the power, but he headhunts and looks for early KO's. his weakness his, he can be outboxed early and late. if he cant get a fighter out...he is in jeapardy of losing because he doesnt put rounds in the bag. this is why Khan thinks he can beat him.

if Khan keep LM from landing those clean shots, he would surely win because you can bet he'd be up on the cards.

its a big if of course, but I wouldnt be shocked to see Khan win. I thought it was brave of his team to put him in against Maidana.

You my nikka but


Who the fukk is Maidana the same Madiana that got his ears boxed off and embarrassed by shot Morales...................




I"m a LM hater, but he destroys Khan. But while we talking about Madaiana/LM is people supposed to act like LM is superman but his fat ass wont move and face a Maidana a man that beat his ass 3x in the amateurs

 

[Black_Jesus]

if Khan had a chin he would be the best JWW in the world. but he doesnt. so how is that even relevent?

Maybe if you read the post I was quoting you'd see how my post was relevent

 

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one of Khan's problems was messing with Roach. Roach doesnt seem to have fighters who are great defensively or particularly great counterpunchers. Roach's style is to play offense. Every fighter isnt Manny Pacquiao though.

Khan lack of D dont have shyt to do with Roach, I dont see people crediting Roach for Toney's shoulder roll, your leopards spots are his spots, fighters are who they are from their ametuer days and the greats show them flashes then, in the amateurs Khan was getting slept with headgear. If anything Khan problem was sparring and getting the better of pacquaio, with the Pacquaio hype and Khans proud ways he started to say to himself that hey im whipping the best fighter in the world, and he regressed started overlooking opponents, stop boxing starting throwing them wild flurries lunging in with his chin in the air, like his bytch ass could take a punch or recover like the iron chinned manny, one decent shot and he on jelly legs the whole fight.Khan is a weird case, I had enough talking about this clown

 

[SuikodenII]

You got the foreign fighter knowledge on lock round here so I believe you

However if say Judah or Alvarado or Peterson had beat Ajose in 9 rds or whatever it was....you think people would be hyping up that W like they did for Matthysse or would it be looked at like Guerrero Aydin which was the same exact scenerio??

My guess is AJose would be called a bum

It's all subjective, I feel like people's personal feelings towards a fighter effects how they see the outcome of fights, positive or negative. Ajose to me was just a rough Nigerian fighter with a good chin, great stamina, fast hands, decent defense and workhorse attitude. He would give guys a tough night regardless if he was ever elite status. The fact that Matthysse punished dude for 9-10 rounds before finally stopping him was eye-opening, at least for me. I thought he had the chin to last, but dude kept catching too many CLEAN shots like

I could be wrong but he had never been knocked down either (I know that was the case with Devon Alexander)

I like to put fighters in Tiers by weightclass, like HBO does. A, B, C, D and everyone else. Ajose is in that B tier at 140. He has a fight with Mercito Gesta (power punching Filipino former lightweight title challenger) that I think, if he comes in focused, will open the door for another big fight.

Sorry for the drawn out answer

 

[yoyoyo1]

first time I see odds for the fight

Adrien Broner -1525
Paulie Malignaggi +850


That's not even "mismatch" levels, that's "pro boxer vs a one-armed midget" levels

 

[Skip b]

It's all subjective, I feel like people's personal feelings towards a fighter effects how they see the outcome of fights, positive or negative. Ajose to me was just a rough Nigerian fighter with a good chin, great stamina, fast hands, decent defense and workhorse attitude. He would give guys a tough night regardless if he was ever elite status. The fact that Matthysse punished dude for 9-10 rounds before finally stopping him was eye-opening, at least for me. I thought he had the chin to last, but dude kept catching too many CLEAN shots like

I could be wrong but he had never been knocked down either (I know that was the case with Devon Alexander)

I like to put fighters in Tiers by weightclass, like HBO does. A, B, C, D and everyone else. Ajose is in that B tier at 140. He has a fight with Mercito Gesta (power punching Filipino former lightweight title challenger) that I think, if he comes in focused, will open the door for another big fight.

Sorry for the drawn out answer

So Ajose was all of that but was busy fighting 6, and 8 round fights huh

Who the fukk did Ajose beat, and why does a LM victory over him(questionable stoppage and all) place him on a pedestal, please answer and dont duck??????????

 

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Antonio Margarito planning a comeback, interesting