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So far, I have seen listed as "elite":

-Andre Ward (168)
-Juan Manuel Marquez (140-147), downside of career though
-Manny Pacquiao (140-147), downside of career
-Danny Garcia (140)
-Lucas Matthysse (140)
-Abner Mares (126?)
-Sergio Martinez (160), downside of career

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-Adrien Broner (130)
-G. Rigondeaux (126-130)
-Nonito Donaire (126-130)


Didnt see Canelo Alvarez (147-154), which is a crime.
Mikey "Angel" Garcia is also a beast on the rise.



So, based off of this, Floyd shouldn't fight anyone other than Alvarez, Pacquiao or JMM. Anything else is a waste.

Also, Andre Ward has No one to fight close to his weight class, except Sergio Martinez. That would be a good fight.
Canelo is Elite:what:


A elite fighters dont get hands laid on them by half brain damage shot fighters like Mosley, are we gonna continue to act like Mosley wasnt outworking Canelo and laying hands on him something serious in the latter rounds, shyttttttttt Mora bum ass aint even let that happen, thats all people need to know about Canelo
 

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elites: Mayweather, Ward, Marquez, Klitschkos. the end

the point about naming elites is that you dont have to make lists or think too hard. cause they are the best of the best and you should name them without a second thought. if you think too hard about a guy, he's not elite.
 

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elites: Mayweather, Ward, Marquez, Klitschkos. the end

the point about naming elites is that you dont have to make lists or think too hard. cause they are the best of the best and you should name them without a second thought. if you think too hard about a guy, he's not elite.

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Pacquiao is still elite, and JMM being on your list is shaky as hell considering JMM only beat Manny the once out of 4 tries, and that JMM only has only beat one elite fighter.............................:manny:



Ward is questionable also, his best win is vs Dawson, it aint like we aint see Chad underperform and underwhelm in the pat
 

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:ufdup:

Pacquiao is still elite, and JMM being on your list is shaky as hell considering JMM only beat Manny the once out of 4 tries, and that JMM only has only beat one elite fighter.............................:manny:



Ward is questionable also, his best win is vs Dawson, it aint like we aint see Chad underperform and underwhelm in the pat

 
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Canelo is Elite:what:


A elite fighters dont get hands laid on them by half brain damage shot fighters like Mosley, are we gonna continue to act like Mosley wasnt outworking Canelo and laying hands on him something serious in the latter rounds, shyttttttttt Mora bum ass aint even let that happen, thats all people need to know about Canelo


Bet. I dig this reasoning. Based off of this, JMM cant be elite either, because Floyd beat him 12-0, 11-1, and 10-2 (with 1 knockdown) in their fight.

If Canelo can't be elite (in a win), then JMM cant be elite (in a virtual shutout), as well as 2 losses to Pac.
 

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I think Canelo is elite for his division at 154, but I wouldn't say he's an elite fighter. Trout was elite for the division as well and when both guys fought they kinda just neutralized each other in a close fight. Canelo needed to be more dominant in his toughest test for me to call him an elite fighter.

Someone like Abner Mares is just an elite fighter period and thats based off skills, wins, and who he's fought.
 

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Bet. I dig this reasoning. Based off of this, JMM cant be elite either, because Floyd beat him 12-0, 11-1, and 10-2 (with 1 knockdown) in their fight.

If Canelo can't be elite (in a win), then JMM cant be elite (in a virtual shutout), as well as 2 losses to Pac.

floyd is a bad comparision cause he pretty much wipes out everyone,
he's that good

JMM been doing this for a while, he elite. so is pacquaio despite the knockout

canelo is not elite, but he's right there
 

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Some of you don't have Nonito as elite? That's one of the problems in boxing. You lose 1 time in nearly a decade and people already writing you off.

Trout is elite too. Clear #2 @ 154 and took the best Jr. MW in the world to the limit
 

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I think that Donaire is still elite. Dude is a great fighter, who ran into a better defensive fighter in Rigo that night and got beat. He didnt' get blown out, gave Rigo his dude and vowed to come back stronger. Same things that all elite fighters do.
 

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Some of you don't have Nonito as elite? That's one of the problems in boxing. You lose 1 time in nearly a decade and people already writing you off.

Trout is elite too. Clear #2 @ 154 and took the best Jr. MW in the world to the limit

Thats what happen when you build yourself beating on bums in the end its just smoke and mirrors, expect the same to happen with Canelo, and LM
 

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Some of you don't have Nonito as elite? That's one of the problems in boxing. You lose 1 time in nearly a decade and people already writing you off.

Trout is elite too. Clear #2 @ 154 and took the best Jr. MW in the world to the limit

Well at first dude asked for the top 5-6 elite fighters

Donaires recent comp before rigo was:scusthov:

Mathebula
:flabbynsick: Japanese guy ready to retire
Blown up brain damaged Arce

All while Mares was calling him out...he gets forced to fight rigo who he ddidn't wanna fight in the first place...proceeds to threaten to cancel the fight erry other day....gets outboxed loses almost erry round plus his eye fukked up...then has 877457 excuses why he lost N says he thinks he won....Man fukk that bytch:aicmon:
 

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Well at first dude asked for the top 5-6 elite fighters

Donaires recent comp before rigo was:scusthov:

Mathebula
:flabbynsick: Japanese guy ready to retire
Blown up brain damaged Arce

All while Mares was calling him out...he gets forced to fight rigo who he ddidn't wanna fight in the first place...proceeds to threaten to cancel the fight erry other day....gets outboxed loses almost erry round plus his eye fukked up...then has 877457 excuses why he lost N says he thinks he won....Man fukk that bytch:aicmon:
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Co-signs 100% not to mention him saying he cant make the weight then saying he may fight again at 122 but if Rigo want a rematch it has to be at 126, pure bytchmade fraud:pacspit: :pacspit: :pacspit:
 
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