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People thinking this fight will be entertaining are only saying that becuz they think Floyd is gonna teach him a lesson. Canelo can not only fight but he's proven that he's an intelligent fighter his last 2 or 3 fights. This fight will easily be a bore becuz neither guy will push the action.
 

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its really not hypocrisy when you look at the fact that Canelo HAS NO NEGOTIATION POWER WHATSOEVER. To weigh in at 2 lbs under 154....when we know Floyd wont weigh in at no more than 150 is asking nothing of Canelo. Its doing him a damn favor, especially if this joker dont have a post-fight weight limit.

Me personally, I say damn the 2 pounds, let him come in at 154....because nikkas always got sum to say.

Yea it is hypocrisy, and its always a double standard when it comes to Floyd... the bytch went as far as to say Cotto's loss to Pac didn't count all because Cotto was asked to come in 1lb ligher than his previous fight.. before Floydie fought Cotto, the bytch said Cotto should be considered undefeated because of the marg fight and because the pac fight was at a catch weight

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nikkas talking bout its okay, its not hypocrisy with Floyd, because he got negotiating power?? Pac had the same negotiating power but nikkas wanna slight his win vs Cotto even though Pav was coming from 138 and asked Cotto to drop 1lb less than his previous fight
 

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I see alot of nikkas acting like Canelo has no shot in that other thread :wtf:.Is that just casual dumbthink or are nikkas in here foolishly believing the same thing?
 

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For Canelo to get gassed like that I think Floyd's gonna have to make him work like Trout did. Trout was really busy. Not "very" effective but he kept Canelo working. Is Floyd going to stay in front of him all night and not respect Canelo's power or does Floyd move all night?

Right now, I favor Floyd to win but the stamina issue I think concerning Canelo won't play as much a factor more than Floyd simply outpointing him.

I think we saw it with two different sets of eyes. Trout was too cute and had a lazy jab. I dont know why Canelo got gassed except for the fact that Trout landed some good body shots.

When Floyd connects with his jab and straight right, that will make Canelo work plenty hard enough because his back will start to tighten up. Plus the movement is going to tire him out as well because he aint good at cutting off the ring. At least against Trout it didnt seem like it. Trout is a good boxer but he aint a mover like Floyd. The reason why Floyd and B-Hop alike can never really be dominated is because of their lateral movement and counterpunching ability. Its something we can sit here and describe all day but you dont know what its like until you step inside the ring against it.
 

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No doubt about that..but i'm just trippin off the fact that ppl are acting this is another Robert Guerrero situation.Floyd will probably win but it's not a slam dunk like ppl are making it out to be.


See, the part that always makes me LOL about Floyd opponents is...they all have the same game plan. Canelo being the bigger, stronger man...I guarantee you his team is going to be working on countering Floyd...but he is too damn fast for that shyt and that plan will go out the window once Canelo starts getting hit.

He cant effectively cut the ring off against a guy like Trout....what does that say in regards to Floyd?

The thing about Floyd is, he rarely fights anyone the same way. He measures them in the first 2 or 3 rounds then he takes away their strengths. Honestly, I dont see how Canelo is better than Ghost. I really dont. Ghost can box and brawl but he is pretty quick and coordinated too. His IQ seems to be a bit higher. Canelo is bigger and stronger and hits harder than Ghost, but in boxing, that is only applicable depending on what type of opponent is in front of you.

sn: hoping Garcia-Matthysse gets made for Sept 7th
 

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No doubt about that..but i'm just trippin off the fact that ppl are acting this is another Robert Guerrero situation.Floyd will probably win but it's not a slam dunk like ppl are making it out to be.

Floyd makes good fighters look average, even more so in the latter rounds because he has gaged everythnig they can do by then. Hes shown it time and time again, so going off past history you can see why they see The Ginger as another Guerrero type.


Speed Stamina and Discipline is what is needed to have a chance of beatin Floyd but to find someone who has all 3 is near on impossible
 

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Yea it is hypocrisy, and its always a double standard when it comes to Floyd... the bytch went as far as to say Cotto's loss to Pac didn't count all because Cotto was asked to come in 1lb ligher than his previous fight.. before Floydie fought Cotto, the bytch said Cotto should be considered undefeated because of the marg fight and because the pac fight was at a catch weight

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nikkas talking bout its okay, its not hypocrisy with Floyd, because he got negotiating power?? Pac had the same negotiating power but nikkas wanna slight his win vs Cotto even though Pav was coming from 138 and asked Cotto to drop 1lb less than his previous fight

Wait...was Cotto signed to TR at that time? I forget. Anyway. Money May is giving Canelo an opportunity. Although the Pac fight was huge for Cotto, Miguel had a plethora of options. Canelo only has two. Money May or Cotto.

It can be dissected all kinds of ways. Floyd couldve said he wasnt fightin about WW anymore and the case wouldve been closed.

If you wanna talk about Cotto....when Pac fought Cotto, Cotto had a belt in that division. Floyd was lineal champ of the same division since 2006. Floyd is still the champ at WW where Canelo has no belt. The division where Canelo has a belt, Floyd has one of equal if not more value. Floyd beat Cotto....so I would say more, but its at least equal.

Manny made the champ fight at a catchweight. Floyd IS the Champ.
 
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Floyd might get the KO/TKO because Canelo seems to stubborn to
just hang on and last 12 rounds like most guys Floyd pulls into the deep water. That means target practice for Floyd all night long , hes gonna leave Sauls face lumpy !


:blessed: No rehydration clause :blessed:
 

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Floyd makes good fighters look average, even more so in the latter rounds because he has gaged everythnig they can do by then. Hes shown it time and time again, so going off past history you can see why they see The Ginger as another Guerrero type.


Speed Stamina and Discipline is what is needed to have a chance of beatin Floyd but to find someone who has all 3 is near on impossible

you need more than that. you need a high work rate and/or excellent counterpunching ability.
 

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Wait...was Cotto signed to TR at that time? I forget. Anyway. Money May is giving Canelo an opportunity. Although the Pac fight was huge for Cotto, Miguel had a plethora of options. Canelo only has two. Money May or Cotto.

It can be dissected all kinds of ways. Floyd couldve said he wasnt fightin about WW anymore and the case wouldve been closed.

If you wanna talk about Cotto....when Pac fought Cotto, Cotto had a belt in that division. Floyd was lineal champ of the same division since 2006. Floyd is still the champ at WW where Canelo has no belt. The division where Canelo has a belt, Floyd has one of equal if not more value. Floyd beat Cotto....so I would say more, but its at least equal.

Manny made the champ fight at a catchweight. Floyd IS the Champ.

Cotto was a free agent when he fought Floyd.
 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2332135/Riddikk-Bowe-make-comeback-Muay-Thai-fight.html?ico=sport^headlines

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If we're just tellin it like it is. then yes. floyd looks like a fool for talking all that shyt about catchweights then fighting at a catchweight. he got on pac for 2 lbs so it's only right he catches some shyt for asking canelo to come down 2 lbs. on the other side, floyd is a character. dude talks shyt just to talk shyt. half the stuff he says he doesn't even mean, so you can't even take it serious. dude has contradicted himself a lot of times in his career. he knows why pac asked for the catchweights. for the same reason he asked for this one. because he knows canelo is a real threat. canelo is young. strong. fast. and big. floyd knows this is gonna be the most dangerous opponent he's faced in a long time...if not, ever. if he can get a little something of an advantage then so be it. it's the same reason he chose not to lose those 2 lbs vs marquez. cause 2 lbs is not easy to lose when you're already going through intense training just to meet the limit for your weight class. for canelo, I don't think it should effect him that much, if at all. but still...floyd can't have it both ways. and floyd fans...I don't understand why you bother arguing about it. you don't have to defend every single little thing. it's OK to admit floyd can be on some bullshyt at times. it doesn't make you any less of a fan.


with that being said, i'm happy as hell. every boxing fan should be. 152 shouldn't make much of a difference. if it was 150 I woulda called it complete bullshyt. but 152....canelo came in 153.5 for trout, so I don't think it will be much of a struggle for him. bottomline, this is the best fight that could have been made right now. so you gotta give floyd his respect. dude is fighting a guy who can legit knock him the fukk out if he makes a mistake(ala mosley 2nd round)....much more dangerous of an opponent than pacquiao ever was.

i was with you until the bolded breh..pac was still the most dangerous fight for him due to his combination of speed, which is on floyd's level, and power which is he is one of the hardest punchers in recent boxing history...and unlike canelo pacquiao never had no damn stamina issues either
 
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