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getting hit by that punch has more to do with your hip angle and your spacing.

theres two ways to get hit with a right hand.

when you stand squared, you get hit by straight right hands through the center, like this.

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and when you walk into a gym that is why most trainers will put you into a three quarter hip angle; thats to stop that straight right hand from hitting you. when you stand three quarter to block, the angle a straight right hand needs to have to hit you is taken away.

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theres just one problem with that, and it is that, when you stand three quarter to block a straight right hand through the center, you let yourself get hit by a looping overhand right behind the glove, like this.

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so on the one hand you take away straight right hands through the center.

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at the cost of getting hit by looping right hands behind the glove.

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but there is a solution to that also. and here it is. since he has to reach around your glove to land it, if you take a little step back, he cant reach behind your glove and that punch cant land. when you stand three quarter with your hands up, you take away the straight right hand through the center, but if you take a little step back, you will also take away that overhand right behind the glove. so that if you are standing three quarter with your hands up while scooting back just a little, a right hand literally cant hit you. you take away both of the ways a right hand is able land on you at the same time.

if you watch the canelo and bivol fight you will see bivol in that three quarter hip angle with his hands up, scooting back in little increments. theres not a lot canelo will be able to do with that, in a rematch, or in any fight. what i saw of benavidez in the plant fight is that if you flinch at him he jumps back with his hands up. that looks different but the idea there is basically the same. he does get squared up but i see him mostly operating in a three quarter hip angle, like most fighters. and if plant loaded up a right hand he would jump back and that right hand would just fall short.

I see what you're saying.
Benavidez has overall decent defensive awareness. Most of his opps are shorter than him and throw straight right hands trying to break through his guard, which he prepares for and defends against. Launching overhand rights from a distance will be evaded since they're pretty telegraphed.

What I'm saying is to throw the overhand right when you already have the distance cut and Benavidez is squared up or in positions where he can't just scoot backwards. Most dudes try to get in hook/or straight exchanges once he's in his wheel house. I'm suggesting going over or under. That's why I mentioned Canelo's uppercut on the inside.

I feel like that fight is going to be won on the inside or mid range. Whoever throws sharper in the exchanges. Benavidez will stalk Canelo, but he won't chase him and vice versa. Bivol's footwork is light years ahead of both, plus he knew how to use his size which is something Plant never figures out.

Plant's offense lacks the imagination to implement the shyt I'm talking about. Guys who fought like Salido and Pascal would be hell on Benavidez, because they attack from so many angles.
 

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I see what you're saying.
Benavidez has overall decent defensive awareness. Most of his opps are shorter than him and throw straight right hands trying to break through his guard, which he prepares for and defends against. Launching overhand rights from a distance will be evaded since they're pretty telegraphed.

What I'm saying is to throw the overhand right when you already have the distance cut and Benavidez is squared up or in positions where he can't just scoot backwards. Most dudes try to get in hook/or straight exchanges once he's in his wheel house. I'm suggesting going over or under. That's why I mentioned Canelo's uppercut on the inside.

I feel like that fight is going to be won on the inside or mid range. Whoever throws sharper in the exchanges. Benavidez will stalk Canelo, but he won't chase him and vice versa. Bivol's footwork is light years ahead of both, plus he knew how to use his size which is something Plant never figures out.

Plant's offense lacks the imagination to implement the shyt I'm talking about. Guys who fought like Salido and Pascal would be hell on Benavidez, because they attack from so many angles.
Totally agree

Let's not even talk about the better ring IQ & the superior counter punching. The Urban Cac's feints were even working but he never really captialized off of it. The major concern is Canelo's gas tank which is why this fight is close to 50/50
 

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Totally agree

Let's not even talk about the better ring IQ & the superior counter punching. The Urban Cac's feints were even working but he never really captialized off of it. The major concern is Canelo's gas tank which is why this fight is close to 50/50

Facts.

We all seen how Canelo looks when you carry him a lil fast.
 

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Mell warned em :francis:

Jermell may act like he is unhinged sometimes, but he has made the best career decisions by far out of either of them. He still moves like he's hungry. He wants respect. Jermall just moves sloppy. I guess he thought knocking out Krillin was the ticket to stardom, but clearly not.

That's also why Jermell has had a better career, he just makes better decisions. Undisputed @154 >>>>> being a long reigning champ at 160 and two division champ.
 

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Yup

Plant offense is basic as fukk. Even then that simple ass strategy could have worked if he tried it.

The problem was everything that Plant landed seemed like it was a jab. Even the power punches were landing like jabs. I don't think there's was anything he could have thrown that would have kept Benevidez off of him.
 

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The problem was everything that Plant landed seemed like it was a jab. Even the power punches were landing like jabs. I don't think there's was anything he could have thrown that would have kept Benevidez off of him.

Agreed.

Dude's punches weren't worth a got damn during that fight. :pachaha:
 

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Ra'eese Aleem-David Picasso WBC Title Eliminator Heads To March 31 Purse Bid Hearing​

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BY JAKE DONOVAN
Published Thu Mar 30, 2023, 10:11 PM EDT
Ra’eese Aleem can finally look forward to a fight that should place him in title contention.
All he needs now is for a promoter to pick up the rights.
A purse bid hearing has been ordered for a WBC title eliminator between Aleem and Mexico’s Alan David Picasso. The junior featherweight matchup will be made available to the highest bidder during a ceremony to be held Friday at noon local time from WBC headquarters in Mexico City. WBC-registered promoters can also participate via Zoom.
The winner will be named as the sanctioning body’s second mandatory to reigning WBC/WBO 122-pound king Stephen Fulton (21-0, 8KOs). Luis Nery (34-1, 26KOs) is the first mandatory in line following his eleventh-round knockout of Azat Hovhannisyan in their unforgettable February 18 slugfest in Pomona, California.
The leading Fight of the Year contender saw Nery march through hell to eventually force a stoppage. The former two-division titlist will now await the winner of Fulton’s unified title defense versus former three-division champ Naoya Inoue (24-0, 21KOs), which was rescheduled for July 25 at Ariake Arena in Tokyo.
In theory, the winner of Aleem-Picasso will get the next title. That’s if the rules are followed to the letter.
Aleem (20-0, 12KOs) has rapidly emerged both as a top contender and as the division’s most avoided fighter.
The unbeaten boxer from Las Vegas by way of Muskegon, Michigan became one to watch following a one-sided, eleventh-round knockout of Vic Pasillas in their January 2021 battle of unbeaten prospects. The win came on the undercard of Fulton’s WBO title victory over Angelo Leo, with the two also featured in separate bouts later that
November. Fulton unified the WBC and WBO titles with a win over Brandon Figueroa in their memorable battle of unbeaten titlists, while Aleem settled for a majority decision victory over Eduardo Baez.
Just one fight was featured in Aleem’s disappointing 2022 campaign, though he made it count in a ten-round shutout of Mike Plania last September 4 at Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles.
Aleem has spent much of his time at the contender level calling for a fight with Fulton, or really any top 122-pound fighter. The inability to land a title shot has been additionally frustrating to Aleem as both he and Fulton fight under the Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) banner.
Picasso (24-0-1, 13KOs) will make a considerable leap in competition, assuming the fight moves forward. The baby-faced 22-year-old from Mexico City has fought exclusively in Mexico through six years as a pro. He enters the ordered eliminator having stopped each of his past six opponents, including a sixth-round knockout of countryman Kevin Villanueva on March 4 in Merida, Mexico.
Nery-Hovhannisyan and Aleem-Picasso were both approved as title eliminators during the WBC's annual convention last November in Acapulco. At the time, it was believed that a Fulton-Figueroa rematch was going to take place at featherweight, where the WBC approved an interim title at stake. The sanctioning body classified the two eliminators as a four-man tournament, with the teaser of allowing for the two winners to fight for an interim belt or for the vacant title had Fulton beaten Figueroa and remained at featherweight.
Instead, the box-off has changed to a growing line awaiting the winner of the well-received Fulton-Inoue championship clash.
 

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Why do these nikkas in sports and entertainment be getting married? A lot of their marriages just end up failing anyways.

Was Mall raised with his father? Maybe he likes loud mouth hoes, I can't stand them get on my nerves. She too basic to be that loud and stank.


Mell warned em :francis:
 

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Also, a lot of ratchet behavior is just undiagnosed mental illness. I still wouldn't get married though especially if I was a professional athlete. I would focus on my craft and then have a couple of women I dealt with on the side. The sport is what pays me.
 
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Why do these nikkas in sports and entertainment be getting married? A lot of their marriages just end up failing anyways.

Was Mall raised with his father? Maybe he likes loud mouth hoes, I can't stand them get on my nerves. She too basic to be that loud and stank.
They had both parents, and grew up under Holyfield. Mall just a weirdo and i wouldnt be shocked if him and his girl were on some bobby and whitney shyt always drunk and popping pills.
 
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