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TKO-Backed Muhammad Ali Bill Aims to Shake Up Boxing World



I dont know anything about the business of boxing but this article makes it sound like the passing of this bill is a good thing for boxers and the sport. Any of you more knowledgeable agree or is this bill going to screw over boxers?
A good thing for the sport really bruh?

Read this again.

The legislation, if passed, would eliminate many of the checks and balances that sanctioning bodies have attempted to impose on boxing promoters for decades.


Currently, sanctioning bodies like the World Boxing Association (WBA) and World Boxing Council (WBC) manage their own ranking systems, distribute championships, and order matchups to be made. Under the newly proposed bill, those competing in UBOs would compete entirely separate from this system.


Boxers would be given the option to compete for a UBO or remain under the current sanctioning body-based system in boxing, per Georgia Rep. Jack.


“The thrust here is we have a system and if you want to stay in that system, you can,” Representative Jack told Sports Illustrated, referring to boxing’s current sanctioning body-focused setup. “We are not touching the Ali Act. Instead, we are adding an additional section to U.S. code that allows for the creation of UBOs, and we’re touching the PBSA [Professional Boxing Safety Act] by amending it.”


Sanctioning bodies would continue to operate, but with boxers and promoters altogether opting out of the system, it could possibly give them less influence than ever before.


The UBO system has parallels to how UFC manages itself inside the MMA ecosystem
They want the government to roll over and make monopolizing boxing easy for them, and also absolve them from any of the protections and systems in play to protect boxers.

They essentially want their to be hole in boxing regulations where they can operate without any oversight. Aka the exact fukking reason the Ali act exists. Using his name to co-opt it is nasty.

And they want to destroy the boxing market by signing fighters to exclusive deals. This is the same company that owns the WWE and the UFC. They want to monopolize boxing the same way but they want to government to make it easier for them first.
 

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Anyone remember hearing anything about Floyd's A sample testing positive & his B sample being negative for their fight? Shane mentions something about it.

I only remember the whole IV situation before the Pacquiao fight which was seemed suspect

 

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TKO-Backed Muhammad Ali Bill Aims to Shake Up Boxing World



I dont know anything about the business of boxing but this article makes it sound like the passing of this bill is a good thing for boxers and the sport. Any of you more knowledgeable agree or is this bill going to screw over boxers?
it makes boxing run like the ufc ecosystem which is not ideal for boxing...because ufc fighters get paid peanuts and that ubo shyt..if a fighter wants to go that route they would never get a chance to win titles or even earn big money...they'd be stuck in that system and have a ceiling on their careers and how much they make

but i have faith this wont pass
 

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Also - everyone sings VADA's praises as the best when it comes to drug testing but then also wants to act weird about Conte's relationship with them.

VADA is good specifically because he works with them :dead:

You've got the godfather of modern doping working with the doping control people instead of against them and it's a coincidence they're the best?

And why does he do all of this? Because his legal business makes him more money than his illegal one ever did AND he doesn't have to worry about going to jail. :dead:

This would all be well and good if he wasn't coaching fighters himself. A fighter has every right to feel uneasy about his opponents coach being tied to the company handling his tests. An active nutrition coach shouldn't have any connections to a testing agency. Period. It's insane to say otherwise. Who's the say he's not advising them where NOT to look as well. If he knows their protocols and has the inside scoop on their banned substance list, then he knows exactly how to beat their tests. It's just common sense.
 

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The person who is on everyone's radar and has done his time versus the guy who has fighters fail tests all the time and they just carry on like nothing happens and gets away with it


HMM :patrice:

You do realize that at least 6 fighters under SNAC have failed drug tests right?....And a few athletes from different sports. They're probably in double digits by now.


Andre berto
Luis Ortiz
Willie Monroe Jr
Shane Mosley Jr.
Michael Rivera
Cung Le(MMA fighter)


It's no surprise that all the guys who failed are basically SNAC underlings. Guys who don't have the money for victor conte to oversee their whole program so they prolly gotta do a lot of the dosing themselves. End up screwing something up and come up dirty. And every time a snac athlete fails, victor conte says the same shyt as everyone else. "must have been contamination". After all these guys failed in close proximity I'm sure Conte tightened up his operation but doesn't change the facts of who he is. Anybody who works with this guy can't pretend to be an ambassador for a clean sport. I'm sorry :yeshrug:
 

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TKO-Backed Muhammad Ali Bill Aims to Shake Up Boxing World



I dont know anything about the business of boxing but this article makes it sound like the passing of this bill is a good thing for boxers and the sport. Any of you more knowledgeable agree or is this bill going to screw over boxers?
The minimum pay and the health insurance are good

The rest is :trash: They just get an exemption from the Ali act. It divides boxing again this time without the possibility of co-promoted events on paper.

They try to force the UFC model into boxing.

With boxing’s much deeper talent pool and higher pay standars than MMA I don’t see them having a lock on the best talent the same way.
Unless they invite the big promoters in UBO and UBO isn’t = TKO but that part is not clear to me as of now.

If UBO is exclusively TKO then I don’t see why others wouldn’t make their own organozation of the same vein. Otherwise (if it’s only allowed to TKO) it would be discriminative wouldn’t it? How they would justify this while they don’t let the same thing for PBC or even Top Rank? It’s a bit muddy now but sadly I imagine an MMA like landscape where cross promotional fights become pretty much impossible but without the vast majority of top talent lining up under one banner like in MMA.
 
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