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What stopped Linares from being great?

Had the handspeed. Good power could throw every punch. But when he stepped up in comp, he could never really get over the hump.

Why is that?

his defense and chin

i truly think linares was an above average boxer who had brilliant performances at times..but when he got caught or cut it was a wrap for sometimes..his losses are brutal for the level of fighter he is

 

[patscorpio]

Truthfully, he needed someone like Manny Steward/Ronnie Shields to tweak his defense & positioning. I remember when he fought Larios you could tell Manny wanted to train him

that larios fight linares gave him a brain bleed..linares was quality...he was the first person to really shake up haney...was giving lomachenko all types of fits and dropped him clean before getting stopped

 

[Knicksman20]

that larios fight linares gave him a brain bleed..linares was quality...he was the first person to really shake up haney...was giving lomachenko all types of fits and dropped him clean before getting stopped

Truth! Linares was one of my favorite fighters to watch. If he had a Black trainer sooner to tweak some things & teach him some more nuance to his technique offensive/defensively, we might've seen a different career with less terrible L's

He fought a twitchy urban style & needed a trainer to hone that

 

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[UpAndComing]

You gotta be fukking kidding me

If they keep that PPV price at $75, then PBC would be absolutely trolling

 

[General Mills]

Lennox was ready for the shyts if it came to it

 

[Lurking Class Hero]

What you think about the Benavidez vs Yards fight

Am I crazy for thinking Yarde has a real chance to beat Benavidez?

Yes. Yarde is completely washed bruh. Dude hasn't looked good since the Beterbiev fight. I'm not giving him a chance in he'll against Benavidez.

 

[TheNig]

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

we might've seen a different career with less terrible L's

He fought a twitchy urban style & needed a trainer to hone that

I can't really argree with this - Linares had a long, accomplished career for a Venezuelan based in Shinjuku (I congratulated him here, ever the gentleman, was so humble and glad to be recognised). He fought so regularly (up to 4 times a year first half of career), took on anyone, at short notice, a lot of fighters could take note. Maybe a black trainer helps him get out of harms way by hand/head placement or roll perhaps, I'll grant that, but that really wasn't his style, as you said. He was an offensive counter puncher, that's his DNA, that's what made him win 90% of his fights.

His worst loss was to Demarco, because he was a great fighter that he underestimated. The Cano loss was a jump up to 140 (the first and last time he did that), he underestimated a division he'd never fought in, and it was his 4th last fight? Almost all his losses came at the very end of his career, and by this point he was old and battle wearied.

Which other terrible L's aside from -

• A chance, hook knockdown in the middle part of his career at Yoyogi Stadium?
• A cut stoppage loss in rnd 2 of a fight. (Thompson)

The other losses were -

• Lomachenko (for which he was right in the fight until rnd 10, but it's Lomachenko we are talking here).
• The Haney fight he wins if there was a different referee (this can't be disputed, Haney was finished and won via foul/clinch).

So in reality he has 2, maybe 3 glaring losses (Lomachenko (a close one), De Marco and Cano (end of career and only fight at 140).

The rest of his career is exceptional? The bigger question is 'why do we denote fighters that take on all comers as if they're inferior because of a loss here or there?' We should reward them for fighting the way that fighters should?