Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[patscorpio]

 

[patscorpio]

Errol dont need to be getting hit upside the head anymore. Id prefer he dont come back n just focus on promoting.

spence is broken...ive literally have said this for a long time..he hasn't shown me anything post crash to convince me otherwise..compromised punch resistance, noticeable neurological changes, and serious injuries in both eyes

it will take a herculean effort for those issues to not come into play

 

[UpAndComing]

fukk it, why not

 

[patscorpio]

the roach dichotomy is funny to me

when tank announced a fight with him, the tank stans defended this hardbody
when roach got the draw with tank and made it be known he beat his ass, the tank stans turned on him...call him all types of bums, and bring up the herring loss and cruz draw

funny shyt

 

[Erratic415]

It doesn't make sense he should aiming to have back to back tune ups at least three times this year

It may be one of those things where an accomplished older fighter knows he doesn’t have that many fights left, feels he’s paid his dues, and wants only bigger fights/paydays.

Or maybe his team is who is trying to steer him towards only bigger paydays because they know he’s declined and is a risk to lose to a lesser/unknown fighter.

 

[surv2syn]

fukk it, why not

ship may have sailed. Shakur has several other fights he could do that are bigger. unless he thinks Roach is an easier fight than Teo, which I think it is then I dont see too much point in it. it just doesnt appear to be an exciting fight. Shakur against GAR is a good fight to me.

 

[surv2syn]

Watched the first 15 minutes of this and it's hilarious seeing both Chris Algerie and Paulie who supposedly "keep it real" tuck their tail and ask softball questions when Mauricio is in their presence

then I wont bother even clicking. smh. they know better. call these clowns out.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[kaldurahm]

If he beats Tim at 160 maybe fight Lara for a belt at 160 then call it.

 

[Apollo Creed]

ship may have sailed. Shakur has several other fights he could do that are bigger. unless he thinks Roach is an easier fight than Teo, which I think it is then I dont see too much point in it. it just doesnt appear to be an exciting fight. Shakur against GAR is a good fight to me.

This would be true of Shakur was a Money man but unless Turki is backing everything nobody is in a rush to fight Shakur. If Shakur can get Turk to back another big fight this year then we may see the momentum rise, but what we dont need to see is Shakur vanish until 2027.

We got 2 140 title fights on the 21, but I think Shakur should aim for a UK fight against Dalton Smith to unify + do like a legit media tour in the UK to maybe pick up some casuals. Shakur needs a run that builds his brand more.

Roach vs Shakur will get the purist talking but to Shakur outside of some honor shyt the ROI won't be there for the tine of a camp and shyt imo.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Yeah. Tim seems broken and was already basic and his last fight was a can. This is more so a bank robbery tune up for Spence. If Errol cant handle Tim then he shouldnt be fighting anymore.

Not sure I agree that it’s a simple fight for Spence. Tsyzu has a terrible resume, and has failed when it mattered, but he is still a heavy handed, career based 154 fighter, we haven’t even seen Spence at that weight before.

3 years off, no trainer, lot of question marks and issues.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Not sure I agree that it’s a simple fight for Spence. Tsyzu has a terrible resume, and has failed when it mattered, but he is still a heavy handed, career based 154 fighter, we haven’t even seen Spence at that weight before.

3 years off, no trainer, lot of question marks and issues.

TBH I`m confused on Tim, because if we being real before the Cut he was getting in Fundoras ass, against Murta he fought like an idiot, and 2nd Fundora fight dude seemed mentally defeated, but before all of that people would say he had a super well crafted resume. We even had the angle of Charlo was shook of Tim when looking back I think Charlo wold have ended his career.

Greg Hacket said Spence been sneaking off to Philly for a while now and was even DMing about stuff, so I would assume from the looks Spence had been going around looking at trainers for the last 4-5 months and now has another 4 months before the fight aka a Camp (and Spence seems to have been in decent shape the last 2 years).

Where I`m going with this is Spence is levels above Tim, and there were loud mumblings about Spence having a horrible camp for the Bud fight and looked like shyt during the ring walk, not making excuses because Spence himself made no excuses but I`m just stating the situation.

I think all things considered most will agree the general theme is this fight is gonna be a fire fight and if Spence can't beat Tim, he needs to hang it up, but if Tim loses depending how Spence looks will be the real story on whether Tim is ass or Spence may have a potential for one last run.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

TBH I`m confused on Tim, because if we being real before the Cut he was getting in Fundoras ass, against Murta he fought like an idiot, and 2nd Fundora fight dude seemed mentally defeated, but before all of that people would say he had a super well crafted resume. We even had the angle of Charlo was shook of Tim when looking back I think Charlo wold have ended his career.

Greg Hacket said Spence been sneaking off to Philly for a while now and was even DMing about stuff, so I would assume from the looks Spence had been going around looking at trainers for the last 4-5 months and now has another 4 months before the fight aka a Camp (and Spence seems to have been in decent shape the last 2 years).

Where I`m going with this is Spence is levels above Tim, and there were loud mumblings about Spence having a horrible camp for the Bud fight and looked like shyt during the ring walk, not making excuses because Spence himself made no excuses but I`m just stating the situation.

I think all things considered most will agree the general theme is this fight is gonna be a fire fight and if Spence can't beat Tim, he needs to hang it up, but if Tim loses depending how Spence looks will be the real story on whether Tim is ass or Spence may have a potential for one last run.

Yeah, I’m on the fence re the Tsyzu/Fundora-cut narrative, he landed two nice right hands, but Fundora team adjusted and told him not to bang and just use/stick out your jab and straight and go to work at mid pace. It worked perfectly, and was the most effective Fundora has ever looked in his career, given his reach advantage, for which he tends to negate by wanting to bang on the inside with his hands down.

Tsyzu’s biggest issue has always been his hand recoil, given he stays with his head in the pocket, on the line usually, and up in the air with his chin sticking out. I shyt you not, people were concerned by this in his amateur days (he had only 9 or so fights), but he was able to cover it up by great offence, a strong training ethic and shrewd matchmaking by his promoters. But make no mistake, anybody that followed his career knew that he was most likely going to be target practice once he cracked the top 10 rankings for the upper echelon at 154. Top tier boxing takes no prisoners, it also exposes any weaknesses or defensive shortcomings.

The really real on Spence imv is/was the drop off in kinetic chain sequencing in punching mechanics, and the decline in his hip and trunk mobility. Great strength and conditioning coaches don’t just get you fit and strong, they get your body firing the right way for your boxing style and technique, as well as how your body performs for a specific opponent.

Just look at Pacquiao in the Ugas fight, lack of reach, none of the signature foot movement, no pop. Instead of flying his 25 man entourage around his whole career, he should have been investing in biomechanists, Pilates coaches and real sport science, perhaps even stem cell treatment to address lower vertebrae deterioration.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Errol Spence, Big Bear, Abel motherfukking Sanchez. 3 months, first month acclimatising.

At this point Spence isn’t changing his style or technique. Just get him conditioned like Kazakh’s finest.

Make it happen Haymon.

 

[Amor fati]

It may be one of those things where an accomplished older fighter knows he doesn’t have that many fights left, feels he’s paid his dues, and wants only bigger fights/paydays.

Or maybe his team is who is trying to steer him towards only bigger paydays because they know he’s declined and is a risk to lose to a lesser/unknown fighter.

Hmmm... I guess him on his team or not is on that "Get while you can" mode, instead of waiting for some unknown guy sparking him out.