Stock is low as hell.. that bakole loss lowered his stock like his crying in interviews and wanting to be like Jake paulDoes this nikka have any fans?
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So hitchins gets stipped like Opetia lol what a dummmy
Some folks think TR deal with zayas almost up and DAZN is pushing for big fights to sell their ultimate packages (why they were forcing ortiz vs boots with or without golden boy), so TR like we cash out, if he loses it is what it is and we have leverage, if he wins we have a star we treated well
Zuffa dont recognize 140 tho. so this shyt get wilder by the day
crazy thing is he talkin shyt to Bakole and says he wants the smoke again. not sure why since Bakole hasnt won a fight since stopping him.
Forgot about thag. Maybe he thinks he will get a bag and then go to 147 for a real belt. Makes him not fighting old dude look even worse
chunky_mcdaniels
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That belt is even more fraught though? It's owned by DAZN/Riyadh/Zuffa and is effectively a promotional tool for the Saudi's and the broadcasting company. When the promoter dictates the terms re belts, then they dictate the narrative exclusively, that's the same as the UFC, for which there was not one fighter in the top 150 athletes paid for years 2024,25 or 26.
You sure that's a good idea? Once you do that, there's no going back, it's a company sport exclusively.
it was just an example (hence I said "for instance"). the point is ONE championship needs to be recognized above all others. keeping corruption and influence out of it is another story but you gotta start somewhere. Ring Magazine was around before any of these other belts, yes its owned by others now but what belt isnt in someone's pocket? they are all company belts, thats not what would make a belt bad. if the fights are put on like Turki has been helping with then its no worse than the others. Extorting sanctioning fees, not enforcing mandos, dubious rankings, unfair stripping, 3 or 4 versions of the same belt, thats just some of the bullshyt going on with the 4 major crooks now. Wont be any worse and at least you know who to hold accountable.
Zuffa isnt really a belt from my understanding but more of a trophy. I dont think at the moment its a claimant to the division's best fighter but they are tampering with it if other greedy bodies start stripping fighters for competing for a mere trophy. Zuffa champion is champion of what?
April and onwards better be lit because im getting bored..
chunky_mcdaniels
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The sanctioning fees are sore point for boxers no doubt, but would you rather get paid 10 million or $100,000? Because if you get rid of the sanctioning bodies, then the promoters and networks dictate everything, at all times. The strata that your criticising is far less of an issue when compared to one belt scenarios.
The reason Zuffa has been a trophy so far, is because as a league/promoter, they're not allowed to promote a belt, given it's a huge conflict of interest to be the promoter and the belt. The trophy is just a work around, that is temporarily until the Ali act amendments are approved in congress.
To be perfectly frank, you aren't anywhere close to even conceptualising the tremendous ramifications of a one belt/one promoter scenario. You're concerning yourself with a framework that is drastically less consequential (sanctioning fees etc), than promoter/broadcaster/sanctioining body monopolisation.
A better approach would be to look at the bigger picture, forward projection, case studies such as the UFC, which is where boxing is about to end up.
