HARLEM AL
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Wait did this nikka just put zab and James Toney in the same sentence. And then say Roy aged better than toney.... Man get all the way the fukk outta here...
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You cant even @ me though?
Since 1999, when both James Toney and Roy Jones Jr turned 30:
Roy Jones Jr:
19-7 record
2x WBC Light Heavyweight Champion, 2x WBA Light Heavyweight Champion, 1x IBF Light Heavyweight Champion, & 1x WBA Heavyweght Champion
Best victories coming over Eric Harding, John Ruiz, Antonio Tarver, & Felix Trinidad
Losses to Antonio Tarver 2x, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Glen Johnson, Danny Green, & Denis Lebedev
James Toney:
21-5-1 (2 NCs) record
1x IBF Cruiserweight Champion
Best victories coming over Vassilly Jirov, Evander Holyfield, Fres Oquendo, & Dominic Guinn
Losses to Samuel Peters 2x, Denis Lebedev, Lucas Browne, & Jason Gavern
Not only has Roy held more titles but he's beaten better opposition and LOST to better opposition than Toney did as well. How the fukk do you lose to nobodies like Browne and Gavern, like James has done, but still be considered better than someone who's resume is better than yours? You cant to me
i still maintain that toney should have been able to keep that heavyweight title after schooling that fukk ruiz in the ring...it was a great night 
..he was prescribed them roids for an arm injury 
not for an advantage..we would have had some classic fukkery and asswhoopins to watch instead they gave that belt back to ruiz who was promptly jobbed out of it against valuev sending it to euro land 
..he was prescribed them roids for an arm injury not for an advantage..we would have had some classic fukkery and asswhoopins to watch instead they gave that belt back to ruiz who was promptly jobbed out of it against valuev sending it to euro land 
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Breh explain to me how you came to this conclusion
What are we talking here?
Resume?
dominance?
All time?
Roy has him beat without even adding in his amateur achievements. Normally with arguments in here even if I disagree I usually can see how the other party would feel that way but this argument just has me like
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krackdagawd
Inspire.
I say Bhop is higher than Roy as an ATG and Roy Jones stans form up like Voltron and hit me with the 
nikkas say James Toney is a better fighter and ya'll are all
nikkas say James Toney is a better fighter and ya'll are all
Breh explain to me how you came to this conclusion
What are we talking here?
Resume?
dominance?
All time?
Roy has him beat without even adding in his amateur achievements. Normally with arguments in here even if I disagree I usually can see how the other party would feel that way but this argument just has me like
I love how James Toney and his stans in here love to say that he's better than Roy.........but conveniently leave out the fact that Roy beat him too
And dominated him at that
career wise its always going to be up for debate..hell are 3 are still fighting today but if we keep it head to head..bhop and toney were technically better fighters..thats why they are fighting today and haven't been ko'ed yet but roy whipped both of them in their primes..no hypothetical shyt there brehs...ill always give it up to roy for being better than both of them based on that
I say Bhop is higher than Roy as an ATG and Roy Jones stans form up like Voltron and hit me with the
nikkas say James Toney is a better fighter and ya'll are all
Exactly, I dont understand it.
My list as an ATG goes Hopkins > RJJ > Toney.
At their very bests, my list is RJJ > Hopkins > Toney.
Never knew we had so many closet Toney stans in here
for the record i fukked with toney more than i did bhop or roy so seeing him right now fighting on knowing he's very past it and will prolly get stopped before he reaches 100 pro fights has me 
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Exactly, I dont understand it.
My list as an ATG goes Hopkins > RJJ > Toney.
At their very bests, my list is RJJ > Hopkins > Toney.
Never knew we had so many closet Toney stans in here
I honestly don't get it
that's why I asked dude to tell me why he sees it that way maybe it's something I'm missing. And Hopkins got his win back and is still making history today
Roy Jones is done that was the end of his chapter
Unless we are adding achievements on the announce team this argument .
There is already rumblings about putting him ahead of Floyd and Manny if they don't fight each other and he gets past
for the record i fukked with toney more than i did bhop or roy so seeing him right now fighting on knowing he's very past it and will prolly get stopped before he reaches 100 pro fights has me
Right, I know ALOT of people loved James Toney. I dont think he'll ever get KO'd though breh...his chin is top notch as well as his defense.
InvictusAeternusEternus
In the cut
I honestly don't get it
And Hopkins got his win back and is still making history today
Roy Jones is done that was the end of his chapter
Unless we are adding achievements on the announce team this argument .
There is already rumblings about putting him ahead of Floyd and Manny if they don't fight each other and he gets past
krackdagawd
Inspire.
InvictusAeternusEternus
In the cut
I just threw that DVD in this morning!Hopkins got his win back but that shyt would have been more impressive if he just
gave Roy the 60/40 but he knew Roy was "Gonna whoop that ass"!