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So a thread in another forum had us revisiting the Leonard/Hagler fight.

Watched it again for the 1st time in a while. Here's my scorecard...

Round 1 - Leonard 10-9
Round 2 - Leonard 10-9
Round 3 - Hagler 10-9
Round 4 - Leonard 10-9
Round 5 - Hagler 10-9
Round 6 - Hagler 10-9
Round 7 - Hagler 10-9
Round 8 - Hagler 10-9
Round 9 - Hagler 10-9
Round 10 - Hagler 10-9
Round 11 - Leonard 10-9
Round 12 - Hagler 10-9

116-112 Hagler

I could see why, many people gave it to Leonard, as there were a couple swing rounds. Rounds 3 and 6 were for me the toughest to judge (especially the 3rd). Hagler started off strong, and Leonard came on at the the end of rounds. Was pretty even for the most part. But Hagler was doing the more effective punching while Ray had alot of flashy sh*t at the end. Plus I believe even rounds go to the champ, which in this case was Hagler.

Other rounds I could see people giving Leonard were 9, 10, and 12. But I just couldn't give him those rounds. Hagler was doing the more effective work and was controlling the fight. Leonard was throwing alot of flashy sh*t, but alot of it was ineffective (blocked/missed).

Even if I give Leonard rounds 3 and 6, it's still a draw at best.

I'm fine with people giving the fight to Leonard, but I just personally saw it differently :manny:

Not gonna cry robbery. Far from it.

Now the Leonard/Hearns rematch on the other hand :birdman:
 

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So a thread in another forum had us revisiting the Leonard/Hagler fight.

Watched it again for the 1st time in a while. Here's my scorecard...

Round 1 - Leonard 10-9
Round 2 - Leonard 10-9
Round 3 - Hagler 10-9
Round 4 - Leonard 10-9
Round 5 - Hagler 10-9
Round 6 - Hagler 10-9
Round 7 - Hagler 10-9
Round 8 - Hagler 10-9
Round 9 - Hagler 10-9
Round 10 - Hagler 10-9
Round 11 - Leonard 10-9
Round 12 - Hagler 10-9

116-112 Hagler

I could see why, many people gave it to Leonard, as there were a couple swing rounds. Rounds 3 and 6 were for me the toughest to judge (especially the 3rd). Hagler started off strong, and Leonard came on at the the end of rounds. Was pretty even for the most part. But Hagler was doing the more effective punching while Ray had alot of flashy sh*t at the end. Plus I believe even rounds go to the champ, which in this case was Hagler.

Other rounds I could see people giving Leonard were 9, 10, and 12. But I just couldn't give him those rounds. Hagler was doing the more effective work and was controlling the fight. Leonard was throwing alot of flashy sh*t, but alot of it was ineffective (blocked/missed).

Even if I give Leonard rounds 3 and 6, it's still a draw at best.

I'm fine with people giving the fight to Leonard, but I just personally saw it differently :manny:

Not gonna cry robbery. Far from it.

Now the Leonard/Hearns rematch on the other hand :birdman:

Coward was lucky the Marvalous GOAT let him live. He knew he would get a world tour with a final stop in bolivia for him in a second fight :birdman:
 

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So a thread in another forum had us revisiting the Leonard/Hagler fight.

Watched it again for the 1st time in a while. Here's my scorecard...

Round 1 - Leonard 10-9
Round 2 - Leonard 10-9
Round 3 - Hagler 10-9
Round 4 - Leonard 10-9
Round 5 - Hagler 10-9
Round 6 - Hagler 10-9
Round 7 - Hagler 10-9
Round 8 - Hagler 10-9
Round 9 - Hagler 10-9
Round 10 - Hagler 10-9
Round 11 - Leonard 10-9
Round 12 - Hagler 10-9

116-112 Hagler

I could see why, many people gave it to Leonard, as there were a couple swing rounds. Rounds 3 and 6 were for me the toughest to judge (especially the 3rd). Hagler started off strong, and Leonard came on at the the end of rounds. Was pretty even for the most part. But Hagler was doing the more effective punching while Ray had alot of flashy sh*t at the end. Plus I believe even rounds go to the champ, which in this case was Hagler.

Other rounds I could see people giving Leonard were 9, 10, and 12. But I just couldn't give him those rounds. Hagler was doing the more effective work and was controlling the fight. Leonard was throwing alot of flashy sh*t, but alot of it was ineffective (blocked/missed).

Even if I give Leonard rounds 3 and 6, it's still a draw at best.

I'm fine with people giving the fight to Leonard, but I just personally saw it differently :manny:

Not gonna cry robbery. Far from it.

Now the Leonard/Hearns rematch on the other hand :birdman:


When I have time, I'll score this again. Good post.
 

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Coward was lucky the Marvalous GOAT let him live. He knew he would get a world tour with a final stop in bolivia for him in a second fight :birdman:


When you coming to Jersey to get this work :ufdup:

Afterward we can hit up La Farandula, dine on the food and scheme on the women our country :blessed:
 
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They only begin working together after AB beat Demarco. 2 fights, both won by KO
why didn't you say so breh. Regardless DeMarco's offense will improve even more and his D will stay the same.
Good lawd did the can man put a whooping on him
 

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So a thread in another forum had us revisiting the Leonard/Hagler fight.

Watched it again for the 1st time in a while. Here's my scorecard...

Round 1 - Leonard 10-9
Round 2 - Leonard 10-9
Round 3 - Hagler 10-9
Round 4 - Leonard 10-9
Round 5 - Hagler 10-9
Round 6 - Hagler 10-9
Round 7 - Hagler 10-9
Round 8 - Hagler 10-9
Round 9 - Hagler 10-9
Round 10 - Hagler 10-9
Round 11 - Leonard 10-9
Round 12 - Hagler 10-9

116-112 Hagler

I could see why, many people gave it to Leonard, as there were a couple swing rounds. Rounds 3 and 6 were for me the toughest to judge (especially the 3rd). Hagler started off strong, and Leonard came on at the the end of rounds. Was pretty even for the most part. But Hagler was doing the more effective punching while Ray had alot of flashy sh*t at the end. Plus I believe even rounds go to the champ, which in this case was Hagler.

Other rounds I could see people giving Leonard were 9, 10, and 12. But I just couldn't give him those rounds. Hagler was doing the more effective work and was controlling the fight. Leonard was throwing alot of flashy sh*t, but alot of it was ineffective (blocked/missed).

Even if I give Leonard rounds 3 and 6, it's still a draw at best.

I'm fine with people giving the fight to Leonard, but I just personally saw it differently :manny:

Not gonna cry robbery. Far from it.

Now the Leonard/Hearns rematch on the other hand :birdman:
It definitely wasn't a robbery but Leonard didn't earn that victory IMO...

I don't remember my round by round breakdown but I had scored it for Hagler 115-113, it was a close and very competitive fight but Leonard simply did not do enough to get the decision over the champ...His punches had nothing on them cuz he was throwing them off his back foot the whole fukking fight...I don't count slaps as punches...Hagler on the other hand was the aggressor the entire fight and was landing the more effective punches...The problem for Hagler was he spent a significantly large portion of the fight just following this dude and not throwing his hands...So even though Leonard's punches/slaps were largely ineffective he was landing clean to steal some rounds...Quite a few of those rounds could of gone either way though and IMO if a round is that close it rightfully should go to the champ when the other guy isn't landing anything significant...
 
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