Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - RIP Diogo Jota

[Labadi_Mantse]

Here we go.

Look, if the top 6 teams in the EPL had gimme games all year round, they would be strong in Europe too. You know why the Clasico gets hyped up so fukking much? It's because that's the only game that actually matters in La Liga.

I think you're right in saying the EPL is stronger top to bottom. The game is definitely more physical as well. However, atletico did win the league 2014 and were in the UCL final. Sevilla has won the Europa league the last two seasons. Villarreal, Valenica and Bilbao are tough too. They've all given barca and real tough matches over the last few seasons. I will concede, though, that teams like elche, almeria, granada and cordoba are not on par with the likes of sunderland, Aston villa, newcastle and west ham...

 

[NSSVO]

i just said those 5 teams are good in spain and the rest are thrash.... those 5 teams can beat any team in the epl.... no prob. I did not say la liga is better than EPL

I think you are wrong. If they go straight up EPL wins 3-2. With Madrid and Barca beating Citeh and Ski.

 

[ciubaca]

You're oversimplifying.

Barcelona > Chelsea
Real Madrid > Man City
Arsenal > Atletico Madrid
Man United > Valencia
Tottenham > Sevilla

atletico played the final last season and the quarter this season.... i would like to see arsenal do that.....
sevillia won the europa league how many times in the last years? i would like to see spurs do that
and im not sure about united.... they fell off so hard, look what liverpool did last year in the ucl
Sure the "small teams" in epl are much better than the small ones in la liga but as far as the top 4-5 no way

 

[William F. Russell]

atletico played the final last season and the semi this season.... i would like to see arsenal do that.....
sevillia won the europa league how many times in the last years? i would like to see spurs do that

In the last 10 years, Arsenal's played in the CL Final, CL Semifinals, CL Quarterfinals 2x, and CL Round of 16 6x.

Up and down, Arsenal's a better club than Atletico and has performed better on a consistent basis than Atletico in Europe's premier competition.

 

[ciubaca]

In the last 10 years, Arsenal's played in the CL Final, CL Semifinals, CL Quarterfinals 2x, and CL Round of 16 6x.

Up and down, Arsenal's a better club than Atletico and has performed better on a consistent basis than Atletico in Europe's premier competition.

man, im talking about now

 

[William F. Russell]

man, im talking about now

Even now, Arsenal's a better club.

Manager? Arsenal.
World class players? Arsenal.
League standings? Tied.
Fan support/popularity? Arsenal.

Plus, Arsenal is a legit contender in the EPL this year. Is Atletico a genuine contender in La Liga this year?

 

[ciubaca]

Even now, Arsenal's a better club.

Manager? Arsenal.
World class players? Arsenal.
League standings? Tied.
Fan support/popularity? Arsenal.

Plus, Arsenal is a legit contender in the EPL this year. Is Atletico a genuine contender in La Liga this year?

im not talking about who is the more popuar/ bigger club
if they meat in the ucl arsenal will lose, atletico is the exact team that arsenal hates to play against....arsenal had a better manager and players than monaco too
Arsenal is a contender for the last 12 years.... atletico actually won some throphies
This coming from an arsenal fan

 

[William F. Russell]

im not talking about who is the more popuar/ bigger club
if they meat in the ucl arsenal will lose ....arsenal had a better manager and players than monaco too

Edit: So Arsenal loses against Monaco in the CL and suddenly Atletico is a better club than Arsenal?

 

[ciubaca]

So Arsenal lost against Atletico in the CL last year and suddenly Atletico is a better club than Arsenal?

better team does not mean better club.... city has a better team than arsenal but arsenal is the bigger club. I still think atletico would beat arsenal in a 2 leg draw...; wenger needs to leave that club

 

[William F. Russell]

better team does not mean better club.... city has a better team than arsenal but arsenal is the bigger club. I still think atletico would beat arsenal in a 2 leg draw...; wenger needs to leave that club

City is better than Arsenal atm. Not debatable.

Arsenal is better than Atletico. Arsenal are back-to-back FA Cup champions and a genuine contender for the EPL.

Atletico aren't a genuine contender for La Liga. They're not a genuine contender for the CL.

You have yet to demonstrate how Atletico is better than Arsenal.

 

[ciubaca]

City is better than Arsenal atm. Not debatable.

Arsenal is better than Atletico. Arsenal are back-to-back FA Cup champions and a genuine contender for the EPL.

Atletico aren't a genuine contender for La Liga. They're not a genuine contender for the CL.

You have yet to demonstrate how Atletico is better than Arsenal.

atletico were not a genuine contender for la liga 2 seasons ago.... and they won it. Arsenal been a contender for the last 12 seasons and they won shyt.
fukk man, even 2 europa league titles are better than the FA cup
And arsenal arleady lost 5 points at home in 3 matches... let's be real about them winning the EPL this year

 

[William F. Russell]

atletico were not a genuine contender for la liga 2 seasons ago.... and they won it. Arsenal been a contender for the last 12 seasons and they won shyt.
fukk man, even 2 europa league titles are better than the FA cup

Winning the Europa League's a joke. Arsenal competing in the Europa League would be a HUGE step backwards for the club.

 

[ciubaca]

Winning the Europa League's a joke. Arsenal competing in the Europa League would be a HUGE step backwards for the club.

it's better than nothing... i would like to see arsenal win something while in competition with barca and real like atletico did

 

[William F. Russell]

it's better than nothing... i would like to see arsenal win something while in competition with barca and real like atletico did

The Europa League's a joke. I would rather qualify for the CL for 15 years straight without winning than win the Europa League.

Arsenal won the Premier League multiple times against tougher competition in Manchester United and Liverpool during the early 2000s (when Barcelona and Real weren't that good). And Arsenal have beaten both Real and Barcelona in the CL.

Atletico have regressed since winning La Liga 2 years ago. And the season in which they won, Barcelona and Madrid were dealing with their own injury crises. Congrats to them for winning the league but you using that as the basis to claim that they're better than Arsenal is a joke.

Arsenal > Atletico ALL DAY!

 

[ciubaca]

The Europa League's a joke. I would rather qualify for the CL for 15 years straight without winning than win the Europa League.

Arsenal won the Premier League multiple times against tougher competition in Manchester United and Liverpool during the early 2000s (when Barcelona and Real weren't that good). And Arsenal have beaten both Real and Barcelona in the CL.

Atletico have regressed since winning La Liga 2 years ago. And the season in which they won, Barcelona and Madrid were dealing with their own injury crises. Congrats to them for winning the league but you using that as the basis to claim that they're better than Arsenal is a joke.

Arsenal > Atletico ALL DAY!

i was talking about now... if atletico would meet arsenal now ... and real were not that good in the early 2000s ?they won the ucl twice.... they had zidane, ronaldo raul