Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - RIP Diogo Jota

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NOPE, it's always goes to what favor their agenda.
This award is PR propaganda machine vs PR propaganda machine. Someone won the award with 0 trophy against a treble winner. Modric this year doesn't deserve it, he had a better season than this. If CR7 stayed to RM he will win it for sure. Individual award and yet being judged because of 1 month event and trophies. They fvcking change the narrative every year :russ:

Hmm to a degree, but of top of my head in the last 10-15 years, think there has only been a few teams who have won UCL hasnt had the player win the Balon'dor, Chelsea, Bayern, Inter.

Majority are players who are part of UCL winning teams, Worst for me was when Cannavaro won it over Henry, how Cannavaro won it over him I never know - well we do know cos he won UCL, but that was ridiculous.
:stopitslime:

Its UEFA's competition and award, so its no surprise they tend to give Balon'dor to winner of their competition
 

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What these got to do with Robben, breh? He played 18 PL games, in 04/05. I dont care if you post every single min of all 18 games, Robben wasnt the best PL player in 04/05.

And you seem to be one of those guys who dont like it when people question you and push back? Let me guess tho, you know football better than everyone else.

I was there, idk about quote on quote best player coz you had prime Henry and Drogba breaking through.

But in terms of talent/potential he was definitely a class apart.
 

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Hmm to a degree, but of top of my head in the last 10-15 years, think there has only been a few teams who have won UCL hasnt had the player win the Balon'dor, Chelsea, Bayern, Inter.

Majority are players who are part of UCL winning teams, Worst for me was when Cannavaro won it over Henry, how Cannavaro won it over him I never know - well we do know cos he won UCL, but that was ridiculous.
:stopitslime:

Its UEFA's competition and award, so its no surprise they tend to give Balon'dor to winner of their competition
*world cup
 

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But all this stuff as a guy who watched this so-called golden era is a bunch of revisionist bullshyt. Example Zidane didn't do nothing at Madrid once Del Bosque left, he had zero motivation fof all the crappy politics, but when he decided to turn on the magic he would, ala 2006 WC after 3 mediocre years at Madrid.
So when people talk about eras it's just weird.

The best passer of a footballer that time was none of these so-called legends like Xavi, it was the Portuguese maestro Rui Costa.
His genius is summed un in one play in 2003 vs Real Madrid a massive massive game at the San Siro.


Other immensely celebrated and loved players were Henriik Larsson who came off the bench in the 2006 CL Final in Paris and did what Deco and Xavi could not do all game, unlock the Arsenal defence.


Juventus is and was the most electrifying team to watch play football followed and tied the art that was AC Milan from.
There's no such thing as the dominance of this and that player coz Samuel Etoo won Barcelona the 2006 and 2009 Finals in Paris and Rome but in revisionist history it was Messi.

I simply do not subscribe to the notion that because capitalistic greed, mass marketing and overall media hype etc have created pathetic ethic in football that has lead to a demise in not only the quality of footballers, the standard of coaching, the atmosphere in the stadiums, the overall discussions and culture etc that doesn't necessarily make the mid 2000s a golden era. That era is simply how football is and should be.

Something i would greatly caution Americans from is equating 80s Celtics /Lakers, 90s Pistons, Bulls, Knicks etc NBA
with football. And using all those American talking points like "eras of dominance"... The CL is just too damn hard and you need to much luck for you to start talking about "dominance" Madrid required extra time twice, and a penalty shootout to win 2 (both against Atletico). Barca 2009 Iniesta miracle with "That Norwegian Ref" was tons of luck, no dominance at all in that semi vs Chelsea, we all know the 2005 Milan choke and the 2006 AC Milan 2nd leg game where Shevchenko's goal and away goal was called offside, there was no team "dominating" world class teams were battling it out to death and after 5 years some had 1 CL title, others had 2,others had 0,others had treble seasons but i do not remember any team being dominant.

Football is a soooooooooo big and deeply entrenched and the talent pool was always always real deep. There's really no eras if you watched back then. Even Madrid were lucky as hell in 1998,more a Juve choke.
I wish i could explain it better but certainly don't use American sports mentality coz that's one of the biggest problem in football now.

You one of those brehs. I see you. (Ignores)
 

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Breh come on. Who are some of your favorite players. You just told me the player of the decade declined in his prime and the best winger of the decade was meh. :mjcry:

My favorite striker that time was actually Crespo coz he made every finish look like art:wow:
whilst still being just as devastating/Prolific as Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Trezeguet, Ruud etc


Who are your personal favorites. If they're legitimate i won't go in, if they're suspect you getting all the smoke. I'm talking keepers, CB (Nesta) CDM (Makalele) CM (Ballack) CAM/10s (Rui Costa/Guti/Pablo Aimar/Pirlo) LW/RW and of course CFs so we can tell where your tastes or lack thereof :troll:


:comeon:

The only person who called him meh was you.
 

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To my Arsenal brehs, how you feeling about today?

I’m cautiously optimistic. We’re in a good vein of form but we haven’t won at OT for 10 years in the league. This game has jammy Fellaini goal in extra time written all over it.
 

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If I had access to football betting in NY I'd put a tenner on United. I feel like these past 3 weeks have been the food chain of bottlers.

Sarri Ball <<< Spurs <<< Arsenal <<< United
 
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