The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

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If a democrat was in the White House the campus protestors would rediscover their courage and the CCP would continue to throw gasoline on the fire by keeping the Gaza algo turned on. The pressure would be even greater under Kamala than it is under Trump right now
Democrat politicans would continue ignoring its base like they're doing now, they’re currently searching for a middle ground on supporting genocide. and thats with trump facilitating it.
 
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If a democrat was in the White House the campus protestors would rediscover their courage and the CCP would continue to throw gasoline on the fire by keeping the Gaza algo turned on. The pressure would be even greater under Kamala than it is under Trump right now
...you think the CCP has started to purposefully downplay the protests against the genocide in Gaza to help keep domestic stability in the United States on behalf of Trump? :comeon: Not every fukking thing is this conspiracy theory plot to screw over the Saintly Biden/Harris/Democrats man. Sometimes people of good moral conscience are just sickened by seeing little kids with their skulls blasted open. A much more likely explanation is that there was a pause in the fighting when Trump took office, which reduced the amount of horrific images we were seeing for the past year and a half. And the campus protests reduced because school has been out for the summer and the Trump administration went full fascist to start disappearing student organizers. So people know there's much less efficacy in protesting a brick wall of evil than protesting a drywall of evil.

Anyway, you're confusing the activist base with the party officials. I think it's likely that the activist pressure would be even greater under a Harris administration than under a Trump administration, but only because the anti-war coalition (especially those campus/youth activists you so detest) still feel more aligned with the Democratic Party than the Republican Party. But the vast majority of party officials (Senators, Congresspeople, Richie Torres, etc) would just be following the lead of the President, who in a Harris administration would not have any particular concern for the Palestinian people. The whole problem is that there is a disconnect between the Party and the base. Harris would most likely do the same routine she did during her campaign. "I see you, I hear you, I'm still going to give the Israelis what they want because I don't have the courage to fight AIPAC, but I'm going to look at you with a sad face while I send them the bombs."
 

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Can we admit and agree unequivocally that Kamala would have been better for Gaza than Trump? :francis:
Kamala has done multiple interviews and hasn't spoke out against the genocide happening in Israel, so no i cannot unequivocally state it would be much much better. It'll be better on the margins as far as ethnic cleansing goes but it'll be the same genocidal policy that we have seen the past 3 years. Mind you estimated 100k people were murdered by last fall unde a democrat, that's a unforgivable sin for our party.
 

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Kamala has done multiple interviews and hasn't spoke out against the genocide happening in Israel, so no i cannot unequivocally state it would be much much better. It'll be better on the margins as far as ethnic cleansing goes but it'll be the same genocidal policy that we have seen the past 3 years. Mind you estimated 100k people were murdered by last fall unde a democrat, that's a unforgivable sin for our party.
you realize you’re doing soft apologia of Trump by saying Kamala wouldn’t be better for Gaza right?
 

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you realize you’re doing soft apologia of Trump by saying Kamala wouldn’t be better for Gaza right?
Not at all, its recognizing how dog shyt my party is on Israel that they have the same policy as trump
 

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...you think the CCP has started to purposefully downplay the protests against the genocide in Gaza to help keep domestic stability in the United States on behalf of Trump? :comeon: Not every fukking thing is this conspiracy theory plot to screw over the Saintly Biden/Harris/Democrats man.
Yes, China doesn’t want TikTok banned so they are willing to tow their line so that they can keep their Trojan horse in place.

Sometimes people of good moral conscience are just sickened by seeing little kids with their skulls blasted open. A much more likely explanation is that there was a pause in the fighting when Trump took office, which reduced the amount of horrific images we were seeing for the past year and a half. And the campus protests reduced because school has been out for the summer and the Trump administration went full fascist to start disappearing student organizers. So people know there's much less efficacy in protesting a brick wall of evil than protesting a drywall of evil.

Anyway, you're confusing the activist base with the party officials. I think it's likely that the activist pressure would be even greater under a Harris administration than under a Trump administration, but only because the anti-war coalition (especially those campus/youth activists you so detest) still feel more aligned with the Democratic Party than the Republican Party. But the vast majority of party officials (Senators, Congresspeople, Richie Torres, etc) would just be following the lead of the President, who in a Harris administration would not have any particular concern for the Palestinian people. The whole problem is that there is a disconnect between the Party and the base. Harris would most likely do the same routine she did during her campaign. "I see you, I hear you, I'm still going to give the Israelis what they want because I don't have the courage to fight AIPAC, but I'm going to look at you with a sad face while I send them the bombs."
I disagree. I think Kamala would be more motivated to end the conflict so that genocide wouldn’t define her presidency. Center left parties across the world are no longer capitulating to Israel so it would be fair to assume Kamala would reach consensus with our allies to keep Israel in check.
 

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you realize you’re doing soft apologia of Trump by saying Kamala wouldn’t be better for Gaza right?
Give me a break, man. This is a terrible argument. You should be asking yourself why telling the truth about a genocide is seen as beneficial to Trump.
 
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