The Official Israel šŸ‡®šŸ‡± & Gaza šŸ‡µšŸ‡ø Thread

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Give me a break, man. This is a terrible argument. You should be asking yourself why telling the truth about a genocide is seen as beneficial to Trump.
This is all speculation, we don’t know what the ā€œtruthā€ is because we can’t peer into an alternate reality but we can see definitively that Trump restrains Bibi less than Biden did.

Bibi even admitted it during his Nelkboy interview by saying that Biden and Bibi had a falling out because they disagreed on how to move forward in Gaza.

Bibi praised Trump by saying they are lockstep in their vision in the same interview
 

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Yes, China doesn’t want TikTok banned so they are willing to tow their line so that they can keep their Trojan horse in place.

I thought the whole point of nefarious Chinese interference was to bring America to her knees by sowing internal disorder and chaos...but now you're saying they would rather get the ad revenue from a TikTok subservient to the interests of the American state than the geopolitical strategic win of mass internal protests? You say their goal is to keep their Trojan horse in place for...what, another time like right now?

I disagree. I think Kamala would be more motivated to end the conflict so that genocide wouldn’t define her presidency.
:mjlol: yeah she would have given Bibi a stern look and said "Stop it. Stop it right now." and he would have crumbled under her fierce gaze. This is fanfic, man. Kamala Harris has shown herself to have no political or moral courage, why the fukk would she risk her neck and give up something valuable to end the genocide when her advisors are all telling her to wait it out and hope the citizenry forgets all about this because they're as dumb as the pro-Israeli posters in here are.

Center left parties across the world are no longer capitulating to Israel so it would be fair to assume Kamala would reach consensus with our allies to keep Israel in check.
Center-left parties across the world aren't really doing shyt but a vibes shift. And they can all afford to do that because Israel doesn't rely on any of them like they rely on the US. That leash around the President's neck is getting pulled even if Kamala won.
 

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One would think but I think they’ve really latched onto not taking responsibility for their actions that have lead us here. Many have continued to double down on making the right choice for themselves.
"The people protesting the genocide are actually the ones to blame for it continuance, whereas I, the retarded centrist who refused to criticize the genocide because the progressives beat me to it, am completely blameless for advocating for the strategy that lost us the election. The real way to stop a genocide is to not care about it one iota, and then browbeat the people who do."

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I thought the whole point of nefarious Chinese interference was to bring America to her knees by sowing internal disorder and chaos...but now you're saying they would rather get the ad revenue from a TikTok subservient to the interests of the American state than the geopolitical strategic win of mass internal protests? You say their goal is to keep their Trojan horse in place for...what, another time like right now?

Why do you think China created a free social media app that their own citizens can’t use? Out of the goodness of their hearts?

When the product is free, you are the product.

China wanted Trump to win to destabilize America and so that they could take over in replacing American soft power with their own.

They’ve completed their objective by helping Trump win and now they have no incentive to weaponize their algo because like a bull in a china shop you don’t have to do much prodding of the bull for there to be destruction.

Additionally, China doesn’t want the app to be banned so they are making it appear as benign as possible right now
 

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This is all speculation, we don’t know what the ā€œtruthā€ is because we can’t peer into an alternate reality but we can see definitively that Trump restrains Bibi less than Biden did.

Bibi even admitted it during his Nelkboy interview by saying that Biden and Bibi had a falling out because they disagreed on how to move forward in Gaza.

Bibi praised Trump by saying they are lockstep in their vision in the same interview
Ok if we're playing the speculation game then so is everything you've said. None of us are on the phone calls between Bibi and Trump, we don't know what offers, threats and demands he's made. For all we know those reports of Trump being apoplectic about Bibi are true. Trump saying Israel doesn't know what the fukk its doing is more than Biden ever said about Israel. Going the "it's all speculation" route is just a useless diversion from what we know to be true. I don't care who yelled at Bibi more or who cried in the Executive Residence, I care about a people being genocided with the complicity of this government. We're supposed to hold powerful people to account for their actions, not forgive them for their crimes. Biden and Trump have genocidal blood on their hands. Period. You can stan your favorite genocidaire, I think they should all be hanging.
 

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Why do you think China created a free social media app that their own citizens can’t use? Out of the goodness of their hearts?

When the product is free, you are the product.

China wanted Trump to win to destabilize America and so that they could take over in replacing American soft power with their own.

They’ve completed their objective by helping Trump win and now they have no incentive to weaponize their algo because like a bull in a china shop you don’t have to do much prodding of the bull for there to be destruction.

Additionally, China doesn’t want the app to be banned so they are making it appear as benign as possible right now
:mjlol: bro come on this is utterly ridiculous. The notion that the destabilization of America hinged on the election of Donald Trump over Kamala Harris, as if this isn't a wave that has been decades in the making. The notion that China would "turn off" the protest algo once Trump was elected because...the election of Trump was the objective as opposed to the means to the end, so there would be no more use for domestic protests, as if they didn't see the George Floyd protests? You're not making any sense.
 

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:mjlol: bro come on this is utterly ridiculous. The notion that the destabilization of America hinged on the election of Donald Trump over Kamala Harris, as if this isn't a wave that has been decades in the making. The notion that China would "turn off" the protest algo once Trump was elected because...the election of Trump was the objective as opposed to the means to the end, so there would be no more use for domestic protests, as if they didn't see the George Floyd protests? You're not making any sense.

China knew if this was implemented, it would be the end of the American world order.

The American brand globally has never been more toxic, American soft power never been weaker in the modern era and it’s only been 8 months.

China won, why would they cause more destabilization when Trump being in office is already a checkmate?
 

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Ok if we're playing the speculation game then so is everything you've said. None of us are on the phone calls between Bibi and Trump, we don't know what offers, threats and demands he's made. For all we know those reports of Trump being apoplectic about Bibi are true. Trump saying Israel doesn't know what the fukk its doing is more than Biden ever said about Israel. Going the "it's all speculation" route is just a useless diversion from what we know to be true. I don't care who yelled at Bibi more or who cried in the Executive Residence, I care about a people being genocided with the complicity of this government. We're supposed to hold powerful people to account for their actions, not forgive them for their crimes. Biden and Trump have genocidal blood on their hands. Period. You can stan your favorite genocidaire, I think they should all be hanging.
If you’re going to disregard Bibi’s perspective then I think the narrative you have about this topic is set in stone
 

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If you’re going to disregard Bibi’s perspective then I think the narrative you have about this topic is set in stone
Taking Bibi's words of praise or criticism for American Presidents at face value is rube behavior.
 
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