The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

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This was really a thought exercise because more Palestinians died and more destruction happened under Biden than under Trump.

So if Kamala continued Biden’s policies like she said. :francis:
"You only lost all your buildings and family members under biden but hey at least we'd pretend to care unlike trump!"
 

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I agree with this completely, and it is a stain on Joe Biden's legacy that he allowed the initial beginnings of what is now occurring. I also agree that Kamala didn't articulate any concrete policies other than rhetoric distinguishing how she would deal with the what was happening in Gaza.

But what would you say to the 10% of mothers who didn't have to lose their children? Or the fathers who didn't have to lose their wives and vice versa?

If Joe Biden or Kamala were President, would Laura Loomer be able to influence the State Department not to allow Palestinians children that require medical care to come to the US?
Would we have an ambassador to Israel who says that Palestinians don't exist?

When we get down to nuts and bolts, what happens on the fringes affects real people. Some of you seem to think that "better" is not better than "worse" and the entire house should be burned down regardless.
I think he understands that he just wants to argue hence why I told him he wasn’t getting anymore responses from me today and he went on to argue with someone else for the rest of the day.

Nobody is telling them to accept anything. Going strictly off their own assesrtions/logic that both administrations are full of genocide enabling war criminals and they would empower Israel no matter what after October 7th, agreeing with that fact, why are you okay with 10% (ie thousands of mothers fathers sons daughters friends etc) being dead? Everyone knows whoever is president can stop everything. But they haven’t (And that was never the question in the first place). So with that understood why are people arguing thousands of people’s lives are meaningless? The internet has broken a lot of these people and his turn in particular has been horrifying.
 
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10% less deaths is arbitrary to you?
Apparently which is why they keep changing the subject to Joe Biden and casually dismissing that 10% involves thousands of people that meant something to someone. And that 10% number again is coming from one of them who picked it out of thin air as a way to belittle those lives. Again I’d love to see them belittle lives as casually as they are on here, in real life to those whose loved ones are gone.
 
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It would be the whitewashed version of the genocide we've already witnessed. The “we're working aimlessly to reach a ceasefire and hoping to bring all the hostages home” rhetoric masks the reality: behind closed doors, they're telling Bibi to slaughter as many Palestinians as possible—and supplying his regime with the weapons to do it.

The old playbook, which should be obvious by now, has Blue MAGA members defending the fact that Joe Biden gave the directive for Bibi to blow up 95% of the buildings in Gaza. A slow, steady ethnic cleansing—once defended by people on the left. Now that the right is executing it, the left no longer feels morally obligated to defend the indefensible, aside from a few centrist Zionist lunatics like @Outlaw.

If this entire thing had happened under Trump, he would’ve received marching orders to be rightfully dragged—just as Biden should have been, and now Trump again. When you don’t stand for anything morally, it’s inconceivable to understand why people hold such views, regardless of who’s in power.

As for the “10%” argument—it’s an arbitrary, mostly irrelevant number. Sure, fewer deaths would be nice, but we blew past the “would be nice” phase back in December 2023. Joe Biden facilitated the murder of 30,000+ children under his watch, while shedding crocodile tears over fake stories of Jewish babies being beheaded. He should be charged with war crimes.
This man thinks thousands of additional deaths are a rounding error and wishes people he disagree with into chattel slavery yet I’m the lunatic.

Yeah ok buddy :russ:
 

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This man thinks thousands of additional deaths are a rounding error and wishes people he disagree with into chattel slavery yet I’m the lunatic.

Yeah ok buddy :russ:
“Mostly irrelevant number” is wild as hell to say as a guy sitting comfortably at home living his best first world life. From smooth mind to the euro with multiple accounts to him and Robbie these dudes are not well at all. Thank God they do not represent the average person who discusses this topic in real life.
 

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“Mostly irrelevant number” is wild as hell. From smooth mind to the euro with multiple accounts to him and Robbie these dudes are not well at all. Thank God they do not represent the average person who discusses this topic in real life.
The a slavery diversion tactic was smart because I love to debate and play devils advocate but the fact that he doubled down on saying thousands of deaths being meaningless shows that the concern for Gaza is insincere.

He doesn’t care about human life, he uses Gaza as a catalyst to shyt on Democrats like his idol Hassan. He also fully agrees with his other idol’s Joseph Stalin attributed phrase: one death is a tragedy one million deaths are a statistic.
 

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This man thinks thousands of additional deaths are a rounding error and wishes people he disagree with into chattel slavery yet I’m the lunatic.

Yeah ok buddy :russ:
"Would you rather be stabbed a million times or chopped to pieces in your death!" This is literally your argument, truly disgusting shyt to sanewash biden facilitating a genocide with orders to kill 25k+ kids and destroy every single building. I would say you should be ashamed but im not surprised :francis:
 

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"Would you rather be stabbed a million times or chopped to pieces in your death!" This is literally your argument, truly disgusting shyt to sanewash biden facilitating a genocide with orders to kill 25k+ kids and destroy every single building. I would say you should be ashamed but im not surprised :francis:
PuritianMAGA babble :francis:

The thousands of Palestinians that would still be alive today if Kamala had won would disagree with your sociopathic analogy :francis:
 

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PuritianMAGA babble :francis:
The fact that you're using this phrase not for something simple like a difference in healthcare policy but instead genocide says a lot :francis:. Truly a piece of shyt
 

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“Mostly irrelevant number” is wild as hell to say as a guy sitting comfortably at home living his best first world life. From smooth mind to the euro with multiple accounts to him and Robbie these dudes are not well at all. Thank God they do not represent the average person who discusses this topic in real life.

We are not well because we refused to excuse the actions of a decrepit president who facilitated a genocide and ethnic cleansing? Okay. That makes a lot of sense.
 

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PuritianMAGA babble :francis:

The thousands of Palestinians that would still be alive today if Kamala had won would disagree with your sociopathic analogy :francis:

This is wishful thinking.

Facts: Tens of thousands would be alive and Gaza would not be rubble if it wasn’t for Joe Biden’s destructive policies which Kamala said she would not change.
 

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We are not well because we refused to excuse the actions of a decrepit president who facilitated a genocide and ethnic cleansing? Okay. That makes a lot of sense.
He's generally a bad poster, honestly he's on a historic woat posting spree in this section while providing absolutely nothing to any conversation. At least outlaw tries with the disinformation and trumpian tactics.
 

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This is wishful thinking.

Facts: Tens of thousands would be alive and Gaza would not be rubble if it wasn’t for Joe Biden’s destructive policies which Kamala said she would not change.
If you’re going to blame Biden then you need to be willing to blame Hamas
 
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