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What are you arguing about re: Biden ? I already agree with all that, you can just look at my post history.

My point is about Netanyahu. And yes he did work with Trump, what are you on about ? It's just factual that Trump and Bibi were talking before the 2024 elections. Do you think they were chatting about the weather ?
Here : Why Trump’s Phone Call With Netanyahu Is So Alarming

Regardless of Biden's decisions, Bibi and Trump made it so nothing would be solved in 2024 and we all know Bibi has always favored a Repub admin since the Clinton days.

Once again so I'm clear, that doesn't excuse Biden and his admin in any way shape or form. They could and should have push harder and relentlessly to broker a peace deal during his time in power. But that doesn't mean Bibi didn't undermine them at every step of the way.

They both were in the wrong.
Im arguing that your characterization of Biden “mishandling” the genocide is grossly inaccurate. He didn’t mishandle it, he facilitated it and never wanted a ceasefire because he is a self-proclaimed Zionist. At least trump being a grifter and egomaniac was motivated to end the genocide to take the credit. Biden literally chose Israel over a second term only for Netanyahu to call trump Israel’s greatest ally/friend :dead:

Netanyahu didn’t work with trump which is why he forced Netanyahu to apologize and sign the ceasefire. Netanyahu didn’t want a ceasefire. The airstrike on Qatar was the final straw. Trump forced Netanyahu of all people apologize to Arabs. This was unimaginable a few months ago. Just look at this photo

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Here's the thing. They know and don't care that Bibi and Trump orchestrated this entire thing for their political benefit. They also don't care that Trump and his family have enriched themselves by 10s of billions of dollars from both Israel and the Arabs to cement this phony ceasefire which will lead to even more conflict and Palestinian deaths. All they seem to really care about is damaging the Dem party, liberalism, and democracy.
How did trump orchestrate a genocide that started under Biden?

Trump enriching himself is on par with what the republican platform is about. Israel is a right wing extremist government just like the American Republican Party. The question is why is a “left-wing” politician like Biden aligning himself with a right-wing extremist like Netanyahu? :jbhmm:

Biden/democrats handed Donald trump the presidency by prioritizing Israel over America and by refusing to step-down when he and the democrats knew he had metastatic cancer and dementia while trying to convince their own voter base that they are crazy for recognizing his shortcomings. The democrats sabotaged their own party which is why trump was elected so that’s why they get the criticism.
 

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How did trump orchestrate a genocide that started under Biden?

Trump enriching himself is on par with what the republican platform is about. Israel is a right wing extremist government just like the American Republican Party. The question is why is a “left-wing” politician like Biden aligning himself with a right-wing extremist like Netanyahu?

Biden/democrats handed Donald trump the presidency by prioritizing Israel over America and by refusing to step-down when he and the democrats knew he had metastatic cancer and dementia while trying to convince their own voter base that they are crazy for recognizing his shortcomings. The democrats sabotaged their own party which is why trump was elected so that’s why they get the criticism.

That isn't what I said. Trump and Bibi sabotaged the negotiations. Trump even unilaterally declared a ceasefire when he was a candidate that never even happened. Biden didn't start the genocide. Hamas and Israel did.

The rest of this word salad is just a lot of soft shoeing for Trump and Republicans without putting any onus on them or voters to behave ethically or responsibly.

What's your main account, Cac? The stench on you is strong. Disgusting.
 

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Why is Blue MAGA so mad over return of hostages and a ceasefire, fragile as it may be? :heh:

Y’all senile grand pappy had 15 months to make it happen. But nope, he said fukk the 2024 election and the country, I wanna be remembered as the bestie of Israel in history. Now yall mad at the folks who warned you all along.
 

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I think it's crazy that they ushered all those civilians back into Gaza. They're about to break this ceasefire by claiming Palestinians caused it again......
 

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Imagine how stupid Biden must feel.

All that whoring for Israel, only for them to publicly declare Trump, not you, as their friend :laff:

Hopefully whatever disease he has makes that thought replay in his head for the rest of his life.

Imagine writing this goofy shyt and not connecting the dots that Netanyahu intentionally wanted that.

You really think Biden wasn't behind closed doors demanding Israel to stop? I bet thousands of calls were made. There's no reason Netanyahu couldn't have agreed to this in October 2024 vs. October 2025. He just wanted Trump in office. Your goofy ass is trying to fault Biden when those two already had a Faustian bargain in blood about when the war would end. You dumbass nikka.
 

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You’re giving Trump flowers when you’re ignoring the possibility of Trump coordinating with Bibi to prolong the genocide to help his chances in winning the election


They're so disingenuous on here. Rename this place Troll Tower.

Of course, Netanyahu was coordinating with Trump. He was talking about killing every man, woman, and child before. What changed?

If this were 1980, they'd be faulting Carter for not rescuing the hostages eventhough the Iranians refused to play ball until the Republicans won.
 

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Imagine writing this goofy shyt and not connecting the dots that Netanyahu intentionally wanted that.

You really think Biden wasn't behind closed doors demanding Israel to stop? I bet thousands of calls were made. There's no reason Netanyahu couldn't have agreed to this in October 2024 vs. October 2025. He just wanted Trump in office. Your goofy ass is trying to fault Biden when those two already had a Faustian bargain in blood about when the war would end. You dumbass nikka.
Sir, can you explain why the President of the United States, the most powerful nation known on Earth, didn't say that Netanyahu was fukking a deal up and making him the bad guy in public?
 

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Sir, can you explain why the President of the United States, the most powerful nation known on Earth, didn't say that Netanyahu was fukking a deal up and making him the bad guy in public?

I missed the part where Trump did that? Your statement is irrelevant. It's all predicated on the idea that Trump somehow forced Netanyahu to negotiate while Biden failed. That's simple-minded. Y'all are all in your 30s and 40s, some of y'all are 50 years old believing that shyt. Netanyahu chose to negotiate now. He was fukking texting this nikka during the election. Let's use our critical thinking skills for once.
 
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