The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

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Parks and Joe are right on the Puff Mase topic. This is business and Mase wouldn't be Mase without that deal even if he regrets it now 20 years later. It's the price you pay for the enormous push by the machine.
 

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Parks and Joe are right on the Puff Mase topic. This is business and Mase wouldn't be Mase without that deal even if he regrets it now 20 years later. It's the price you pay for the enormous push by the machine.

Why did Joe beef with Def Jam, LA Reid, Complex and Em then?

Lets be real, they said that shyt because of Joe's closeness to Diddy and him teaming up with AT&T to expand Revolt's reach. They obviously want to be the pillar under that umbrella. Rory's business is basically under Roc Nation.


This is the same nikka that made multiple 30-40 min long vids airing out grievances about his past companies, the pay, the Friday shows, etc. Not once did you hear them seriously argue Joe should have been okay with his treatment just because it helped elevate him, which it undeniably did
 

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Parks and Joe are right on the Puff Mase topic. This is business and Mase wouldn't be Mase without that deal even if he regrets it now 20 years later. It's the price you pay for the enormous push by the machine.

Nah, Diddy on some sucker shyt. He has the means to go back & fix Mase's deal or pay him what he owes. If Diddy is really on this black empowerment, positive energy, then he should have no problems righting the wrongdoing from his past.
 

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Let’s be real here Mase needed Puff a hell of a lot more than the other way around. Puff at that post Biggie moment could have chosen practically any rapper that appealed to women, put out a version of Harlem World and it would have done just as well.
I love Mase but without Puff it’s a crapshoot at best if he ever would have had any type of success.
Mase can tour off that album to this day and has infinite doors open to him that otherwise wouldn’t be.
 

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i think your focusing on “spit” to much , same shyt mal was doing. I think they just meant an altercation in general where a female has been mad enough to wanna throw something or curse you out crazy or even spit on you. I don’t know any nikkas who never been thru it with a female especially at that age.

When you add up everything in totality with mal it seems like he never really had serious relationship experiences from never being hurt to this to plenty of other things he has said on the pod. His mind be blown when Rory joe and parks start talking shyt they been thru on relationships.

Did you listen to the whole thing? Mal said several times he could understand a psychical confrontation and things getting heated. They kept focusing on the spit shyt. Joe was literally telling him that he couldn't call 5 nikkas that haven't been spit on by their woman.

Tbh, Mal doesn't get their relationship convos because they stay saying some really wild shyt about them with no heat but make fun of Mal for asking why somebody that flies constantly and runs their own parties doesn't fly first class

They tried to get on his ass like he was flexing when even Joe turned around and said he flies first class because of Love and Hip-hop. If VH1 can afford first class for Joe, Roc Nation should be able to pay for Rory to fly first class


shyt honestly makes them look even more silly when they defend flying economy, but act like tricking and paying $1000 for us p*ssy is supposed to be a normal.

Rory just tries to dikkride Joe a lil too hard when they get in their bag together. All these compliments have Rory defending damn near anything Joe says, for better or worse.
 

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Let’s be real here Mase needed Puff a hell of a lot more than the other way around. Puff at that post Biggie moment could have chosen practically any rapper that appealed to women, put out a version of Harlem World and it would have done just as well.
I love Mase but without Puff it’s a crapshoot at best if he ever would have had any type of success.
Mase can tour off that album to this day and has infinite doors open to him that otherwise wouldn’t be.

It doesn't matter. Puff is worth almost a billion dollars with an unlimited revenue stream and preaching all this black excellence, white people are stealing from us shyt publicly

But then refuses to even sorta kinda look out for one of your most successful signers. He's coming to you with $2 million for his own work, when you originally gave him less than $30k for it, but your black excellence is now telling mase a cac in Europe will give him $10. Like that $8mil difference matters to him. Mase owning his own music would obviously be much better than some European owning it

It's not a good look, imo, especially when you're already know for being kinda shady with deals sti to his day. Either you're
 

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Let’s be real here Mase needed Puff a hell of a lot more than the other way around. Puff at that post Biggie moment could have chosen practically any rapper that appealed to women, put out a version of Harlem World and it would have done just as well.
I love Mase but without Puff it’s a crapshoot at best if he ever would have had any type of success.
Mase can tour off that album to this day and has infinite doors open to him that otherwise wouldn’t be.
This has nothing to do with taking advantage of someone and signing them to a slave contract

both of them needed each other and they could’ve had a fair business deal and both prospered
 

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It doesn't matter. Puff is worth almost a billion dollars with an unlimited revenue stream and preaching all this black excellence, white people are stealing from us shyt publicly

But then refuses to even sorta kinda look out for one of your most successful signers. He's coming to you with $2 million for his own work, when you originally gave him less than $30k for it, but your black excellence is now telling mase a cac in Europe will give him $10. Like that $8mil difference matters to him. Mase owning his own music would obviously be much better than some European owning it

It's not a good look, imo, especially when you're already know for being kinda shady with deals sti to his day. Either you're
Puff isn’t worth nearly as much as Forbes says he is which is partly why he’s not giving Mase his publishing.

Diddy is back hosting parties every weekend like a 25 year old rapper; billionaires, hell people worth $100 million aren’t moving like that, especially at 50 years old. He’s trying to get back on reality TV as well.

You can tell by looking at him he’s not in a good space.
 

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Puff isn’t worth nearly as much as Forbes says he is which is partly why he’s not giving Mase his publishing.

Diddy is back hosting parties every weekend like a 25 year old rapper; billionaires, hell people worth $100 million aren’t moving like that, especially at 50 years old. He’s trying to get back on reality TV as well.

You can tell by looking at him he’s not in a good space.
He’s more straight my guy he just loves money and being on the scene
 

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This has nothing to do with taking advantage of someone and signing them to a slave contract

both of them needed each other and they could’ve had a fair business deal and both prospered

I love Mase and wish him success and happiness but to act like they both needed each other is just false.
Puff could take virtually anyone and put them in the studio with the Hitmen and huge artists like DMX, 112, Jay-Z, Pharrell, Busta and Lil Kim and then spend millions to make the hottest videos and turn that artist into a massive star.
Lets not forget that Mase "retired" right before his second album came out. Puff may have looked at that like a huge sunken investment and have animosity to this day about all the money he lost on him. We have no idea about what's gone on between them.
Stories abound of people who worked early on at startups that became huge who took cash over stock options that would have made them massively wealthy. Should we feel bad for them about signing a bad contract and "make it right"? The truly capable of those who signed away enormous riches can leverage the fact that they were part of building something huge and use it as a springboard to go anywhere they want. The less capable will be left to gripe decades later.
 

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He’s more straight my guy he just loves money and being on the scene
I have no doubt he likes to be seen but he ain’t swimming in money like he used to be (not saying he’s broke :whoa:). Ciroc is more or less dying out, Revolt is dead (and a money pit), Bad Boy Records is dead, Sean John is dead. He was so excited when Biggie got into the Rock and Roll HOF because he knew it was a chance for him to raise his stock again. No coincidence they’re trying to bring back Making the Band. He needs that check.
 

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I have no doubt he likes to be seen but he ain’t swimming in money like he used to be (not saying he’s broke :whoa:). Ciroc is more or less dying out, Revolt is dead (and a money pit), Bad Boy Records is dead, Sean John is dead. He was so excited when Biggie got into the Rock and Roll HOF because he knew it was a chance for him to raise his stock again. No coincidence they’re trying to bring back Making the Band. He needs that check.
Ciroc isn’t dying out it’s just not the hyped liquor of the culture anymore. It’s still the preferred vodka for the culture

top vodka sales of 2019

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Sean John has been dead for over a decade. Diddy has been accumulating millions for a decade. We don’t know the type of things he’s invested in

he’s not going to turn down a check just to show his face. No one is
 

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Ciroc went down because he

wants 30 a bottle in most places.

I think it’s two things. The hypebeast moved on to 1942 and now Class azul and Hennessy came back big time in 2016. Even women drinking Henn heavy now. Basically there’s no clout for being seen drinking Ciroc like it use to be


Titos is more affordable and is hurting Goose, Belvy and Circoc

now you just have the Ciroc stans drinking Ciroc and good business by Diddy to build up a large base of people that love Ciroc
 
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