The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

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This post below is exactly what I was getting at.

How is wanting this dangerous?
You realize That post didn’t wade into any of his discussion on black men/women relationships, which is why we know who Kevin Samuel is and was mostly what the convo with the Budden podcast was about?

Not really. Joe isn't informed enough.
Neither is Charlamagne.
 

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This post below is exactly what I was getting at.

How is wanting this dangerous?
Because he seems to believe the only way we get there is if women collapse and are put in their place - submissiveness. If this was just about empowering black men to do better and begin to advance - and match the success black women are beginning to attain (regardless of whether you "like" the ways they are attaining success), I'd have no issue. Instead he clearly wants this current situation toppled and believes only then can black men regain their seat at the head of the table.

In reality, the jobs that created the black middle class of the 50s-early 70s are gone. Manufacturing isn't coming back. The factory/warehouse jobs that remain, such as Amazon, don't pay well enough to sustain a family. Trades can be lucrative but the few men who are taking that route tend to be white or Hispanic. Telling black men to work 60 hours a week in menial jobs isn't some cure all. It's nothing more than KS exerting control. No different from Dave Ramsey telling people not to use credit cards. It's a bullshyt gimmick that will not save you.

We need to see black men doing better in school, and going to college. We need to see similar numbers to what we see from black women. And miss me with the "enrolled" shyt - they are graduating at higher rates too. For those not going to college, we need to see more black men in trades. Learning a trade is more valuable than work 60 hours a week. You can work 40 and learn your trade during your free time.
 

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He's right.. And most people don't know how to play their roles, so they can't see it. Your name ain't even in the title. It's not like First Take. Slide off Skip and bring in SAS and the name never changes... Nah you're on a show called Joe Budden Podcast and you think leaving is going to matter to anyone? Is your name Joe Budden? There's no confusion on who the fans are tuning in to hear. Nobody hates Joe and tunes in to hear the sidekicks. Nobody loves Joe and is going to say fukk him over the sidekicks. So you leaving will be a minimal loss. A few fans won't fukk with it no more.. But depending on who you bring in, you might bring in more.

One monkey don't stop the show.. Especially if his name ain't on it and he don't own any part of it.
 

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I think it's worth writing paragraphs about because this dude is not only divisive as fukk, he's clearly signaling to (white racist/nationalist) red pill dudes. That's where the money is. Black men don't buy shyt outside of clothes and shoes. They are the least important consumer group, which is why no ads cater to them. You can't build your brand on black men in 2020/2021...which is why KS' shyt didn't go anywhere when he first started talking to dudes. He started talking to women and blew up, as he said in this interview. Now the next step is bringing white men into the fold.
Look at Flagrant2 switch from sports to near alt right? The money increased ten fold . And it’s stil going up :wow:
 

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Yeah, if you siding with Jordan Peterson then you a piece of shyt. :manny:

I get what he saying and there is a lot of truth with women not pointing out their issues in the male/female relationships, but he dropping a lot of nonsense about women not working hard.

And the shyt he talking is anecdotal and not research based. Dude is very dangerous and is trying to start a black man movement that is similar to the white man movement happening today.
What about when he said tax money come from men...like women don’t pay taxes too:pachaha:. Or said Mohammads knows how to control their women :deadmanny:

but I think he’s outta here already. He’s only gonna get bigger from here.
 

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People are actually impressed by Kevin Samuel? Can’t say I’m familiar with dude but he’s employing tactics you’ll learn in day 1 of any sales job. Say 2 things they’ll agree with and bring it to an illogical conclusion and 1/3 of people will just go along with it. “The family is the basis of society and 42% of women aren’t married so obviously all women need to be submissive to their man”. Huh?
Bragging about knowing the algorithms and how he understands why Facebook bought Instagram? Lol.
I can’t imagine any intelligent self respecting woman who would broadly agree with his simpleton one size fits all “guru” takes.
 

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Damn, I was expecting it from the women but I didn't expect so many men to be triggered by Kevin Samuels... Not saying he's right or wrong, but who cares if you consistently get people to react one way or another

I can understand why he's winning now and I'm sure he's going to keep leaning into that even more now.
 
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