The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[spliz]

The issue is the obsession of not just telling your man thank you bro, but we in negotiations already thanks for letting me know

instead of screaming on the guy not in the know who just bringing back info, go scream in tidal staff and jay z. No he to p*ssy to do so, so he wanna go after a weak target who isn’t even in the know of what’s going on. And then you gonna say “oh y’all never bring any deal” bytch cause you gonna scream on me if I do.

Yup. Joe has a big communication issue. He overreacts to things. And then wonders why people feel a way in the end. What I will say. Is Rory kinda tried to frame it like he spoke to Elliott about Tidal first about the deal and then Joe went behind him and spoke to them and then tried to take credit for it. So Rory wasn’t being completely honest there either if what Joe says is true. Which is he was already in talks with Tidal and he felt they were trying to be manipulative by going to Rory.

 

[PUT IN WORK]

Ehh, I didn't learn anything new from this. Same old, those boys don't know business, let me explain it to ya'll and nothing but crickets after that.

"I might’ve handled it wrong but man,you can’t attack your mans if you’re mad at the situation.."..... bruh, you're the one that came with the personal shots, they didn't even do you like that.

The only thing I learned today is that, Parks...parks...parks..."parks.... gets to talk as much as he wants because it's his house and his equipment". Good to know.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Joe really went on live drinking hard liquor and coffee at 9am lol. Who would want him in charge of their financial future? At least do it in private like a real alcoholic.

 

[1thouwow]

Joe prob was watching Godfather II while high and came up with this lie. This is wild shyt. Weakest link? This is Tidal, not a criminal organization.

Why isn’t that feasible though?

 

[Jekyll]

If Joe is telling the truth about the chain of events about the Tidal deal than Rory played himself. Their beef really is they thought they were more partners than they really were and Joe apparently has made it very clear that wasn’t the case without saying it. And they just let the shyt fester until it blew up in their faces. Joe’s been consistent about that with all the I treated them like friends instead of being the boss.

(for those that didn’t watch his live, he claims that when Elliot asked Rory to lunch, Joe was already in negotiations with Tidal and he already gave them his terms and they didn’t like it. Essentially insinuating that they targeted Rory as the weakest link in order to sow division.)

lol. Joe runs a very shoddy low quality business from everythings that's being revealed. No employee of any value would work under these conditions. This again brings me back to my last job where my boss would damn near beg us to bring new business in. Made sure we had custom business cards and all to drive the point that we represent the business even if final discussions always were ran by the owner. And this is a 7 figure operation approaching 8.

Joe heard that Elliot and Rory had lunch and the pod came up and lost composure. A lunch floating a possible deal means nothing in actual neogotiations and everybody but Joe seems to understand that. Was Elliot gonna sneak Rory a contract that he was going to sign or something? You have to empower your employee's to grow your business. Particularly those two if you are actually busting up profit. Joe has bad business sense.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

That's dicey. Let's say Rory goes to Mal and Parks, says Joe rejected X amount from Tidal and they feel some type of way. Two of them got engaged, I think they all got new cribs. That undermines the pod and any negotiations taking place. Elliot and Tidal were smart to do that, especially if this was during covid with no Dussepalooza and touring.

Overall, we agree we wouldn't have handled it that way. The Patreon deal announcement showed they were never on the same page. To avoid that, lines should've been drawn.



It's probably in the contract but I'm surprised they didn't define or hint at what constitutes podcast profit in their response.

Bro what are you talking bout? This is back in like 2017 the tidal shyt was on the table. They didn’t have any deal at the time lol. This is shyt from 4 years ago

 

[Trav]

"If you don't like the way shyt is being run over here, go flush the toilet....ova THERE. The water spins differently"

Sounds just like a Joe'ism

 

[ML29]

 

[Negro Caesar]

I don't fukk with IG live, but what is this "everybody's quiet" bullshyt he keep saying while literally everyone is answer his questions in the stream???

Trying to think up some bullshyt

 

[Negro Caesar]

That’s flat out lie now

No it’s not

 

[Montez]

Bro what are you talking bout? This is back in like 2017 the tidal shyt was on the table. They didn’t have any deal at the time lol. This is shyt from 4 years ago

I said if.

Either way, it was smart to create any tension between the pod to put pressure on Joe and/or Ian. I don't think Elliot reaching out to Rory was just friends talking. You don't negotiate like that.

lol. Joe runs a very shoddy low quality business from everythings that's being revealed. No employee of any value would work under these conditions. This again brings me back to my last job where my boss would damn near beg us to bring new business in. Made sure we had custom business cards and all to drive the point that we represent the business even if final discussions always were ran by the owner. And this is a 7 figure operation approaching 8.

Joe heard that Elliot and Rory had lunch and the pod came up and lost composure. A lunch floating a possible deal means nothing in actual neogotiations and everybody but Joe seems to understand that. Was Elliot gonna sneak Rory a contract that he was going to sign or something? You have to empower your employee's to grow your business. Particularly those two if you are actually busting up profit. Joe has bad business sense.

It ultimately meant nothing but that shyt was done to weaken their hand.

If Joe owns the IP which Rory admitted, why talk to Rory? Especially seeing how other deals played out i.e., Rory had no idea or say in what was going on.

 

[gho3st]

I said if.

Either way, it was smart to create any tension between the pod to put pressure on Joe and/or Ian. I don't think Elliot reaching out to Rory was just friends talking. You don't negotiate like that.

For sure, Elliot had information Rory didn’t. But how do we believe Joe that negotiation were happening?? If so, why tell Rory that? Rory probably finding out that negotiations were ongoing(if we believe Joe) like all of us in that live today, 4 yrs after the fact .

 

[Jekyll]

I said if.

Either way, it was smart to create any tension between the pod to put pressure on Joe and/or Ian. I don't think Elliot reaching out to Rory was just friends talking. You don't negotiate like that.



It ultimately meant nothing but that shyt was done to weaken their hand.

If Joe owns the IP which Rory admitted, why talk to Rory? Especially seeing how other deals played out i.e., Rory had no idea or say in what was going on.

Bro stop. I do this all day everyday. Its not weakening any hand, this isn't tv or netflix. "Talks" aren't being officially had until proposals get put on paper and get put in front of a decision maker. Lunch is nothing. Elliot isn't a dumb guy. He know's that he isn't signing the Joe Budden podcast by talking to Rory.

They are telling two different versions of the story and Joe's make the least sense. Particularly if Joe came back with the same numbers anyway. I'm sure that Elliot was negotiating with Tidal's best interest in mind but it isn't some sinister plot the way that Joe describes it.

 

[Montez]

Bro stop. I do this all day everyday. Its not weakening any hand, this isn't tv or netflix. "Talks" aren't being officially had until proposals get put on paper and get put in front of a decision maker. Lunch is nothing. Elliot isn't a dumb guy. He know's that he isn't signing the Joe Budden podcast by talking to Rory.

They are telling two different versions of the story and Joe's make the least sense. Particularly if Joe came back with the same numbers anyway. I'm sure that Elliot was negotiating with Tidal's best interest in mind but it isn't some sinister plot the way that Joe describes it.

Since you do this all day, what's the value in speaking to Rory?

Informal talks happen all the time, intermediaries are needed and do help push deals but just lunch when there are negotiations ongoing (if Joe is to be believed), what's the point in talking to Rory unless you want to apply more pressure on Joe? Fishing expedition maybe?

Especially at a time when they were doing it for free essentially.

For sure, Elliot had information Rory didn’t. But how do we believe Joe that negotiation were happening?? If so, why tell Rory that? Rory probably finding out that negotiations were ongoing(if we believe Joe) like all of us in that live today, 4 yrs after the fact .

Them admitting they didn't know about the Patreon deal until the Pod stood out the most to me. Without access to the contracts and emails, we're making assumptions but that move was interesting.

The fact Rory and Mal had no say in where the pod makes me wonder the true nature of their deals. If Joe can move the pod wherever he wants, without informing his partners, it doesn't sound like a true or actual partnership.

 

[Cladyclad]

Bro stop. I do this all day everyday. Its not weakening any hand, this isn't tv or netflix. "Talks" aren't being officially had until proposals get put on paper and get put in front of a decision maker. Lunch is nothing. Elliot isn't a dumb guy. He know's that he isn't signing the Joe Budden podcast by talking to Rory.

They are telling two different versions of the story and Joe's make the least sense. Particularly if Joe came back with the same numbers anyway. I'm sure that Elliot was negotiating with Tidal's best interest in mind but it isn't some sinister plot the way that Joe describes it.

Rory could easily said something that took any type deal off the table. Rory could talked to joe before any business talk happened.