The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

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Rumors? R Kelly married a teenager and had a sextape with a kid.
Yes, rumors

The rumors of R Kelly liking underaged girls existed prior to the evidence becoming public knowledge.

And for some people, they didn't hear about any of it until it was brought up in court back in the early 2000's

Which was my point. Court brings legitimacy.
 
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Halfway done with the episode, some pretty entertaining parts. The Joe Budden seats and Joe's casual clapback were great. I was right there with Parks and MLH, that nikka Fat Joe just be talking and not making sense. Nothing from their clips makes me interested in that pod, and it's primarily because Fat Joe is hard to tolerate listening to.

And speaking of hard to tolerate, I just couldn't understand Ray and Joe's inability to understand Mark and Mel's point and they kept coming back to if Cassie was complicit or if it was a case of Stockholm Syndrome. At the end of it all that shyt don't even matter. Sammy the bull was a fukking hired hitman for the Gambino family and still was the star witness to take down Gotti. Cassie ain't the one on trial. And even if she loved every moment of it, she's testifying against him and was present so her testimony holds a lot of value. When they talk about court cases they get way too caught up in their feelings about the people involved instead of the actual charges and evidence. Then they get totally surprised by the rulings cause they were focused on the wrong shyt.

And I won't even get into Flip. Anytime there's anyone famous he has the most asinine takes possible. He just loves to wallow in his ignorance and be loud and wrong consistently.
 

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Yes, rumors

The rumors of R Kelly liking underaged girls existed prior to the evidence becoming public knowledge.

And for some people, they didn't hear about any of it until it was brought up in court back in the early 2000's

Which was my point. Court brings legitimacy.
R Kelly had a sextape with a teenager before any damn court case. That ain’t a rumor or hearsay. We seen it. Ain’t no damn court legitimatizing chit.
 

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Is the ray guy the same dude that was spouting bullshyt trying to kick Ashante's back in cuz she isnt a top tier performer?
 

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This Ray guy is decent.


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Is the ray guy the same dude that was spouting bullshyt trying to kick Ashante's back in cuz she isnt a top tier performer?
\i think i vaguely remember him from an ep saying he was from ATL but he was born and raised in New York or something. I dont remember his talking points thouh
 

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\i think i vaguely remember him from an ep saying he was from ATL but he was born and raised in New York or something. I dont remember his talking points thouh
Found the vid.


Sounds like hating shyt from him. Ashanti may not have been a performer like Beyonce but she could sing and write. This smoke of calling her a "fakeout" shouldve been directed at Jlo. Had other women singing for her(including ashanti), Jlo was the cheat code that was used to appeal to a wider audience. :manny:

The pod shouldve asked him about that soundbite.
 

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Halfway done with the episode, some pretty entertaining parts. The Joe Budden seats and Joe's casual clapback were great. I was right there with Parks and MLH, that nikka Fat Joe just be talking and not making sense. Nothing from their clips makes me interested in that pod, and it's primarily because Fat Joe is hard to tolerate listening to.

And speaking of hard to tolerate, I just couldn't understand Ray and Joe's inability to understand Mark and Mel's point and they kept coming back to if Cassie was complicit or if it was a case of Stockholm Syndrome. At the end of it all that shyt don't even matter. Sammy the bull was a fukking hired hitman for the Gambino family and still was the star witness to take down Gotti. Cassie ain't the one on trial. And even if she loved every moment of it, she's testifying against him and was present so her testimony holds a lot of value. When they talk about court cases they get way too caught up in their feelings about the people involved instead of the actual charges and evidence. Then they get totally surprised by the rulings cause they were focused on the wrong shyt.

And I won't even get into Flip. Anytime there's anyone famous he has the most asinine takes possible. He just loves to wallow in his ignorance and be loud and wrong consistently.

Joe prefaced his comments about Cassie to say he wasn’t speaking to the legalities. He was speaking to the court of public opinion, which the prosecution is also leveraging, to make Cassie appear completely innocent. They’re trying to use Cassie to sway the jurors into convicting Puff when on the surface the charges are an overreach. The RICO was designed for people like Gotti who were getting people murdered, bribing jurors and committing crimes on a wide organizational scale. A lot of people are pushing back against Puff being overcharged, not him being in legal trouble. What they’re doing is a continuance of the racial double standards under the law. A lot of people on both sides (pro-Puff and pro-Cassie) are failing to see this because the powers that be know they can exploit us by triggering emotions, which they’ve been doing successfully for centuries.
 
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