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[iMajor]

In what world is Vitor not aggressive? If he ever catches Jones, he's going jump on him and completely dump his tank to get the W. If Jones recovers, he's going to be so gassed.

if anyone catches anyone that's what they do they jump on them.

I'm going all in for jones put your money up.

Victor probably can't get passed hendo. And I'm sure he still ain't shake the cobwebs of that silva beating.


But you're argument is weak. Jones will use victor aggressiveness against him just like silva did and submit him. That's my prediction

 

[pez]

if anyone catches anyone that's what they do they jump on them.

I'm going all in for jones put your money up.

Victor probably can't get passed hendo. And I'm sure he still ain't shake the cobwebs of that silva beating.


But you're argument is weak. Jones will use victor aggressiveness against him just like silva did and submit him. That's my prediction

Silva didn't use his aggressiveness against Vitor. Silva used his own speed and elusiveness.

If I was betting money, I'd put my money on Jones, no doubt. I think what makes the fight interesting is that you have Vitor who has the speed and aggression to close the distance on Jones. I know Jones will punish Vitor when he tries to come in. But against such a long reach, Vitor's only hope to hit him is to eat some shots while coming in to land that one punch. I think Vitor is smart enough to know that and is hungry enough to go balls out and go for it. That's my point.

 

[iMajor]

Silva didn't use his aggressiveness against Vitor. Silva used his own speed and elusiveness.

If I was betting money, I'd put my money on Jones, no doubt. I think what makes the fight interesting is that you have Vitor who has the speed and aggression to close the distance on Jones. I know Jones will punish Vitor when he tries to come in. But against such a long reach, Vitor's only hope to hit him is to eat some shots while coming in to land that one punch. I think Vitor is smart enough to know that and is hungry enough to go balls out and go for it. That's my point.

victor was getting mocked and silva was heel victor came in ready with a barrage of strikes and got a foot in his mouth. His "agressiveness" put him in that situation not Silvia's speed or elusiveness

one punch? Like I said your argument is weak everyone wishes they can have that "one punch" he poses no threat. If anything you're making a vitor vs hendo match sound better than this fight

 

[profound]

imo vitor waits too long. the crowd was booing by the time he knocked out rich, and he barely got to do anything to silva by the time he was KO'd. with jones his only chance is to catch him very early and i think he'll wait too long to get that chance. that or jones will do how he did with vlad/bader/vera, immediate takedown.

 

[pez]

victor was getting mocked and silva was heel victor came in ready with a barrage of strikes and got a foot in his mouth. His "agressiveness" put him in that situation not Silvia's speed or elusiveness

one punch? Like I said your argument is weak everyone wishes they can have that "one punch" he poses no threat. If anything you're making a vitor vs hendo match sound better than this fight

ehhh... read what you wrote.. Silva evaded Vitor's attack (elusiveness and speed).. Got a foot in his mouth = speed.. too many smileys and not enough thinking. Why you mad anyways?

My statement is the the only way I envision Vitor beating Jones. If you were Vitor, wouldn't you at least agree that this is how it would have to go down in order to win?

Y U Mad?

 

[pez]

imo vitor waits too long. the crowd was booing by the time he knocked out rich, and he barely got to do anything to silva by the time he was KO'd. with jones his only chance is to catch him very early and i think he'll wait too long to get that chance. that or jones will do how he did with vlad/bader/vera, immediate takedown.

That is true too. Vitor has that tendency. Vitor will have to basically try to make it a brawl and create some chaos. Because if Jones has a chance to settle down and work, then Vitor is dead. He's gotta just get unpredictable and get Jone uncomfortable. It might mean getting laid out but it's his only chance.

 

[iMajor]

ehhh... read what you wrote.. Silva evaded Vitor's attack (elusiveness and speed).. Got a foot in his mouth = speed.. too many smileys and not enough thinking. Why you mad anyways?

My statement is the the only way I envision Vitor beating Jones. If you were Vitor, wouldn't you at least agree that this is how it would have to go down in order to win?

Y U Mad?

Speed? Elusiveness? Smh. I'm not mad and no that's not how I would attack him. Hes a wrestler by nature so he's used to having people up in his grill. I think some judo clinch game and some bjj when on the ground would be the way to get to him. But just running and punching at him is gonna be victor killed so again your logic is weak

 

[baltimore]

Speed? Elusiveness? Smh. I'm not mad and no that's not how I would attack him. Hes a wrestler by nature so he's used to having people up in his grill. I think some judo clinch game and some bjj when on the ground would be the way to get to him. But just running and punching at him is gonna be victor killed so again your logic is weak

you didnt see silva bobbing and weaving when vitor let those flurries go???

you want lil ass vitor to judo clinch and bjj with jon jones??

 

[iMajor]

you didnt see silva bobbing and weaving when vitor let those flurries go???

you want lil ass vitor to judo clinch and bjj with jon jones??

...vitor has no judo clinch game he's not gonna win. He has a better chance on the floor than standing. Is my opinion and how would he get him to the floor.


And no all I saw was a foot to his face. I'm not saying silva doesn't have any of that. But what I am saying is that the argument of vitor just rushing in and attacking is stupid because that's what Jon wants him to do. That's what everyone thinks he's gonna do. So he better have something to surprise Jon

 

[pez]

And no all I saw was a foot to his face.

It ain't our problem you don't remember the fight or only seen the highlight. If you didn't remember it, you might want to reword your opinions.

Watch it again:

Just watch leading up to the KO. Vitor was rushing Silva and Silva was ducking and dodging the bombs Vitor were throwing.

This is all besides the point. My point is that Belfort needs to rush Jones and mix things up so Jones can't settle down and use his long attacks to slowly break Belfort down.

 

[baltimore]

...vitor has no judo clinch game he's not gonna win. He has a better chance on the floor than standing. Is my opinion and how would he get him to the floor.


And no all I saw was a foot to his face. I'm not saying silva doesn't have any of that. But what I am saying is that the argument of vitor just rushing in and attacking is stupid because that's what Jon wants him to do. That's what everyone thinks he's gonna do. So he better have something to surprise Jon

aight then first you say dude logic was weak he doesnt need to rush and try for a ko, say he needs to judo clinch/bjj/take jones down.. then admit he doesnt have a chance to do that..

his only chance is the ko.. either at the bell rushing or after jones misses on one of his goofy spinning attacks.. other than that he's not gonna be the first to take jones down

 

[jackswstd]

Jones stands with wrestlers and wrestles with strikers. He's gonna go for the takedown quick.

 

[iMajor]

Jones stands with wrestlers and wrestles with strikers. He's gonna go for the takedown quick.

Yeah but these guys that's been arguing but I hope trolling against me don't get it. Everyone expects vitor to try to rush jones. And Greg Jackson's gameplan is usually to neutralize your strengths.



"but but but he his only chance is to rush jones"

 

[baltimore]

Yeah but these guys that's been arguing but I hope trolling against me don't get it. Everyone expects vitor to try to rush jones. And Greg Jackson's gameplan is usually to neutralize your strengths.



"but but but he his only chance is to rush jones"

just say you feel like he has no chance and keep it moving.. the other shyt you said was just stupid

 

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The Silva-Bonnar fight is 3 rounds....I can't see Silva getting tired in 3 rounds unless it's a tough weight cut...and it shouldn't be.

Great card, this weekend. I'm buying it.