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And 140- IIRC, she fought Shayna at 140lb catch weight

She walks around at 160-170

This isnt a big Deal and I agree with Tito.... this is all tactics- that fight will happen at 140lbs
:what: so even though dana/ronda are adamant that if it is to happen it will be at 135 u think they are just going to make a catchweight any way
Gina gets beaten again

Ronda is a one trick pony, until she comes to fight with more tools in her arsenal, all she is, is a Judo fighter on an MMA platform.

Lets just wait and see the numbers for the PPV in Feb.

Has Hendo commented on being demoted?
Who cares what he has to say, according to dana he aint even healed yet
 

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and when was the last time he finished off a fight? he uses his big strong body to pound away and control the fight. i give him credit for at least trying to finish condit

Not finishing a fight does not make you a lay and pray fighter. Lay and pray is when you control somebody on the ground, while landing little to no [or weak] ground and pound. That's not what GSP does. Look at Ben Henderson. He has had 5 straight decisions wins, but all of them have been exciting fights [except for the last Edgar fight, which was good, but not that great]. You wouldn't say Bendo is a lay and pray fighter?
 

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Not finishing a fight does not make you a lay and pray fighter. Lay and pray is when you control somebody on the ground, while landing little to no [or weak] ground and pound. That's not what GSP does. Look at Ben Henderson. He has had 5 straight decisions wins, but all of them have been exciting fights [except for the last Edgar fight, which was good, but not that great]. You wouldn't say Bendo is a lay and pray fighter?
dumb comparison because a large part of bendo's fights arent won between his opponents legs
 

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People throw around the term lay and pray far too much. Fighters like GSP and Chael Sonnen are not lay and pray guys, they're constantly trying to inflict punishment and/or advance position. Maybe you can criticize them for not being as aggressive in finishing fights when they have dominant positions but to say they're lay and pray guys is inaccurate.
 

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People throw around the term lay and pray far too much. Fighters like GSP and Chael Sonnen are not lay and pray guys, they're constantly trying to inflict punishment and/or advance position. Maybe you can criticize them for not being as aggressive in finishing fights when they have dominant positions but to say they're lay and pray guys is inaccurate.
I am sorry but sans the condit fight what gsp does is a modern interpretation of l&p.It might not look as glaring to the naked eye as when his predessors did but the principles are still the same.
To have such dominance over your opponent in every facet on the floor and non of it leads to something resembling a finish? nah what dude does is jjust enough passing and rabbit punches/elbows to appear active but by in large hes holding dude down to neutralize him with the sole intention of riding out the clock.Hence why its seen as lay and praying
 

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People throw around the term lay and pray far too much. Fighters like GSP and Chael Sonnen are not lay and pray guys, they're constantly trying to inflict punishment and/or advance position. Maybe you can criticize them for not being as aggressive in finishing fights when they have dominant positions but to say they're lay and pray guys is inaccurate.

sonnen is the definition of a lay and pray fighter, he was on top of anderson for 4.5 rounds in the first fight and he couldnt even bruise him at all
 

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You're criticizing their ability to finish fights/inflict damage not whether they are being active and working to gain better advantage

I interpret lay and pray as guys who once they get the fight to the ground will simply not try to advance position or attempts minimal strikes and I don't see either of these guys doing that.
 

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:what: so even though dana/ronda are adamant that if it is to happen it will be at 135 u think they are just going to make a catchweight any way ?

Who cares what he has to say, according to dana he aint even healed yet

:childplease:

You believe everything that Dana says?


Didn't he say Hendo/Machida was for number 1 spot...now all of a sudden, Rua/Gustaffason is for the number 1 spot. For some reason, Dana hates Hendo
 

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The title is not the UFC Women's Championship, its the UFC Women's Bantamweight Championship. There's no way Dana makes this fight unless it's for this title and the only way that happens is at 135lbs.

In reality, Cyborg has to move down simply because all the depth in women's MMA comes from the 105-135lb weight classes. Dana's not going to let Cyborg come in and beat his only draw then have no one to face.
 

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sonnen is the definition of a lay and pray fighter, he was on top of anderson for 4.5 rounds in the first fight and he couldnt even bruise him at all

I say this to people all the time...and this goes into something that @Heelhook and i say all the time.

People confuse position with dominance. Just because you have "top" doesnt mean youre doing shyt. Sonnen was in Anderson's guard a good portion of that fight, and when he had side control/mount, he wasnt doing much.
 
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:rudy: Its not about believing everything dana says if it was a lie dont you think mr outspoken hendo would have refuted it on social media? :stopitslime:

What are you talking about?

Dana has said many times that Hendo/Machida is for the number 1 spot...now out of nowhere he changes his mind. Hendo hasn't tweeted so many he hasn't heard the news yet lol
 

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The title is not the UFC Women's Championship, its the UFC Women's Bantamweight Championship. There's no way Dana makes this fight unless it's for this title and the only way that happens is at 135lbs.

In reality, Cyborg has to move down simply because all the depth in women's MMA comes from the 105-135lb weight classes. Dana's not going to let Cyborg come in and beat his only draw then have no one to face.

True...or maybe Liz may pull off the upset then they all get thrown in the bushes

Dana said prior to all this that the Rousey/Cyborg fight was going to be at 140lb catch weight...I wonder what changed his mind

Most of those broads who fight at 135lb can easily make 145 and probably walk around heavier than that. There is a division for that weight. i can name at least 10 females at 145 to feed to Cyborg. People want Gina to come back and fight Ronda, it will have to be at 145 because Gina struggles to get to 145.


Sidebar, IIRC a condition of the suspension is regular urine tests, Cyborg says she is tested often by the athletic commission so right now she is walking around at 160-170 pure bad azz muscle
 

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What are you talking about?

Dana has said many times that Hendo/Machida is for the number 1 spot...now out of nowhere he changes his mind. Hendo hasn't tweeted so many he hasn't heard the news yet lol
I am talking about the injury and I really dont see the point in citing the no 1 contendership switcharoo hes trying to sell this shogun/gus fight as meaningful..No way shogun faces jones again after just one win (without a freak injury)
 
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