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Dis is exactly wha i was thinking da whole nite. Dis team stay losing. Was watchin dat part 2 vid of Rashad training, and all it was is vids of Rashad jumping up and down in training. No Mike van armsdale who was a shyt coach ne ways, and him n reem showed up stood in centre of ring and did absolutely nuthing. dudes seemed more concerned with their ring entrance than setting up combinations.

Since they started dat team, how many wins they all got in da ufc (dem other promotions dont matter shyt)

when big foot was on em he got dummied by cormier n cain, poor melvin gulliard left jacksons on a nice win streak n jus stay losing these days.

Dis gotta b the worst team in MMA. I bet da all cac gyms b laughin at em.
 

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Some thoughts:

- Nothing against Big Foot, that was an excellent win. But, Overeem pretty much handed that KO to him.

- Big Foot vs Cain II shouldn't happen, it's still way too early for a rematch. Cain steamrolled him the first time, I don't see how it's any different this time around. Cain is the better striker and grappler, while all Big Foot has is more power. His only hope is to catch Cain with a huge shot.

- Assuming Werdum gets passed Big Nog, Werdum vs Cain is the most logical match-up to make.

- What is going on with Rashad? He looked HORRIBLE and this fight was tailor made for him. He did a whole lot of nothing tonight. Props to Lil Nog for picking up the victory.

- Aldo/Edgar was a really great back and forth battle. The winner was pretty clear though, not sure why some people are screaming 'robbery'. Aldo/Pettis would be a dream match-up, Pettis is a huge threat. Like I mentioned, have Lamas and KZ fight a #1 contender bout, winner gets the next shot after Pettis.

- Maia looked great, he easily out-grappled one of the best grapplers in the UFC. He's quickly moving up that 170 pound ladder.

- Since Rashad is out of the picture, Silva/Weidman has to pretty much happen now. Who else deserves a shot at the title? Unless you want Silva to sit out for a while, Silva/Weidman is looking like the only reasonable option.
 

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Some thoughts:


- Assuming Werdum gets passed Big Nog, Werdum vs Cain is the most logical match-up to make.

nah, Werdum doesn't even fight until July. That means Cain would be sitting out around 9 months between fights. Also the winner of Werdum VS Nog is already guaranteed a title shot. The fight is for a title shot. So they'll get the winner but Cain needs a fight in the mean time.
 
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win or lose would luv to see nelson vs overeem and kongo vs struve next up.

cormier vs mir, that fight gotta get cancelled, let cormier take his time and drop that weight n get him settled in the lhw division, wit rashad n nog doin basically nuthin that division is def lacking tru contenders for jones. Its no wonder why belfort n sonnen are getting direct bouts against the champ witout having to work their way up da ladder.

frankie should fight clay guida next, put 2 treadmills in da middle of da octagon and see who taps out 1st. Getting tired of Frankie Edgar n his run around in a circle for 3 rounds trick to wear da dude out, then attack him for the last 2 rounds n hope for Cecil people to be judging n score it for me. He's had 7 str8 championship fights and only stopped a guy once, i'm down seein em fight. They might as well call em Kenny Florian now.
 

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pretty much, silva then can go after gsp after that

I wouldn't hold your hopes up for GSP/Silva.

nah, Werdum doesn't even fight until July. That means Cain would be sitting out around 9 months between fights. Also the winner of Werdum VS Nog is already guaranteed a title shot. The fight is for a title shot. So they'll get the winner but Cain needs a fight in the mean time.

That's a long wait, for some reason, I just assumed the winner of Nog/Werdum would be ready for a fight mid this year. Honestly, I can't think of anyone fighting Cain in the mean time.

If only Cormier/Cain were willing to fight each other, we wouldn't be having this dilemma.

win or lose would luv to see nelson vs overeem and kongo vs struve next up.

cormier vs mir, that fight gotta get cancelled, let cormier take his time and drop that weight n get him settled in the lhw division, wit rashad n nog doin basically nuthin that division is def lacking tru contenders for jones. Its no wonder why belfort n sonnen are getting direct bouts against the champ witout having to work their way up da ladder.

frankie should fight clay guida next, put 2 treadmills in da middle of da octagon and see who taps out 1st. Getting tired of Frankie Edgar n his run around in a circle for 3 rounds trick to wear da dude out, then attack him for the last 2 rounds n hope for Cecil people to be judging n score it for me. He's had 7 str8 championship fights and only stopped a guy once, i'm down seein em fight. They might as well call em Kenny Florian now.

Don't compare Edgar to Guida, that's idiotic. Edgar doesn't run around, he consistently lands effective strikes [some of them hard punches], he just lacks the power to finish fighters. Also, look at who he's fought recently:

- Aldo, has been finished once in his 9-year career

- Bendo, has been finished once in his 6-year career

- Maynard, only finished by Edgar himself in his 6-year career.

- BJ Penn, finished only twice in his 12-year career.

All fighters that are incredibly hard to finish.

Does Edgar inflict tons of damage in his fights? No, but he also sure as hell doesn't run around.
 

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If only Cormier/Cain were willing to fight each other, we wouldn't be having this dilemma.


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that's the bullshyt. As you know (or may not know) i'm get a lot of insider info and i've said on this site and others since Cormier was in SF that he was ALWAYS open to fighting Cain for the belt. He had no problem with it ever. He was down up until the JDS VS Cain 2 fight happened. Cain never wanted the fight. He and Javier Mendez are the ones that don't want it. They talked Cormier into forgetting about that fight.


also.. i forgot to mention this one here about that steroid rumor and Vitor. It's not Vitor. I was told about the drug failure about a week ago i think. I don't know who it is but i was told it's not Vitor.
 
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Don't compare Edgar to Guida, that's idiotic. Edgar doesn't run around, he consistently lands effective strikes [some of them hard punches], he just lacks the power to finish fighters. Also, look at who he's fought recently:

- Aldo, has been finished once in his 9-year career

- Bendo, has been finished once in his 6-year career

- Maynard, only finished by Edgar himself in his 6-year career.

- BJ Penn, finished only twice in his 12-year career.

All fighters that are incredibly hard to finish.

Does Edgar inflict tons of damage in his fights? No, but he also sure as hell doesn't run around.

I was watchin dis fight at da bar, and i told every1 count how many laps Edgar does da 1st round, dude was jus rotating in a circle for damn near 4 laps jus shadow boxing. Like he wasn't even tryin 2 land dem punches. I'm gettin tired of dis dude bein on da sprint team for the 1st 2 rounds and then when 3rd round comes and dudes r tired he decides to engage and land these 'effective' strikes. How is a strike classified as being 'effective' if it doesnt knock dude out, or cause lil to none damage?

Best way to judge who wins these 5 round fights is to use the club rule. B4 they annouce the decision and both are standing in the ring wit the ref, look at whos face is mashed up the most, and who's leg got welts on it. If he needs to put dem shades on to go to the after party at the club then he lost. If he has to go str8 to the hospital after the fight and misses da after party, he lost.

Jose finished dat post fight presser and probably went str8 to marquee or 1oak, Frankie cldnt even see out that left eye he was so mangled. Overeem was probably talkin 2 da doctor on da ground sayin he gotta make it to his after party he got escorts waitin 4 em. Rashad was so pissed he skipps da press conference n went str8 to da bar.
 
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Edgar landed 5-34 strikes in 1st round and 7 of 51 in second. u call that effective striking? Sounds like a 5mins of him running around doin fakes n ish just to wear out Aldo. Dis is a fight, not a track meet, UFC has to find a way to get these guys fighting and stop dis track meet crap going on. It's really starting to ruin the ufc having more and more of these stupid game plans.

U wanna see a boost in ratings UFC, imagine having that big foot vs overeem tko/knock out live on Fox as the main fight, the crowd and viewers wouldve gone nutz.
 

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I was watchin dis fight at da bar, and i told every1 count how many laps Edgar does da 1st round, dude was jus rotating in a circle for damn near 4 laps jus shadow boxing. Like he wasn't even tryin 2 land dem punches. I'm gettin tired of dis dude bein on da sprint team for the 1st 2 rounds and then when 3rd round comes and dudes r tired he decides to engage and land these 'effective' strikes. How is a strike classified as being 'effective' if it doesnt knock dude out, or cause lil to none damage?

Best way to judge who wins these 5 round fights is to use the club rule. B4 they annouce the decision and both are standing in the ring wit the ref, look at whos face is mashed up the most, and who's leg got welts on it. If he needs to put dem shades on to go to the after party at the club then he lost. If he has to go str8 to the hospital after the fight and misses da after party, he lost.

Jose finished dat post fight presser and probably went str8 to marquee or 1oak, Frankie cldnt even see out that left eye he was so mangled. Overeem was probably talkin 2 da doctor on da ground sayin he gotta make it to his after party he got escorts waitin 4 em. Rashad was so pissed he skipps da press conference n went str8 to da bar.

So dude is supposed to stand in one spot and trade punches? :dwillhuh:


I agree Frankie lost. Him throwing half assed jabs and landing every 3rd or 4th strike attempt IS not affective at all. He gets the :deadmanny: treatment for being "active" but in reality those punches arent doing shyt.

Edgar landed 5-34 strikes in 1st round and 7 of 51 in second. u call that effective striking? Sounds like a 5mins of him running around doin fakes n ish just to wear out Aldo. Dis is a fight, not a track meet, UFC has to find a way to get these guys fighting and stop dis track meet crap going on. It's really starting to ruin the ufc having more and more of these stupid game plans.

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This "Game Plan" shyt has to stop Fighters have had "game plans" since the beginning of time. How are you gonna tell a fighter to NOT be prepared for a fight, to take away his opponents best weapons? :stopitslime:


Frankie just aint a finisher breh...
 

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Edgar should fight either Guida or Mendes next. I'm tired of seeing him in the title scene. It's been the same thing for his last six fights. He DOESN'T deserve an immediate rematch especially with all the contenders coming up at 145 (Lamas, KZ, Siver, Cub). Let Lamas get the next shot - he's beaten two guys now who were next in line. He deserves it.

And why would Pettis fight Aldo when he has a guaranteed title shot against Bendo next? It makes no sense for him. He's already skinny at 155, he would look horrible at 145.
 

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Edgar should fight either Guida or Mendes next. I'm tired of seeing him in the title scene. It's been the same thing for his last six fights. He DOESN'T deserve an immediate rematch especially with all the contenders coming up at 145 (Lamas, KZ, Siver, Cub). Let Lamas get the next shot - he's beaten two guys now who were next in line. He deserves it.

And why would Pettis fight Aldo when he has a guaranteed title shot against Bendo next? It makes no sense for him. He's already skinny at 155, he would look horrible at 145.
i agree especially since pettis already has bendo's number
 

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Did anyone peep White's comments on the whole Coutour situation last night? What a fukking bytch Dana is. He wont even let Randy corner his son when he fights. He won't even allow him to purchase a ticket to any UFC event. If the UFC goes any further to being an elite sporting event Dana has to go. His petty, crass nature is embarrassing. The way he treats fighters, especially the ones who helped launch UFC to where it is today, is disgusting.
 
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