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[The Infamous]

he doesnt want it, i mean this is a guy who is used to fighting guys who weigh 15-20 pounds less then he does on fight night

thats his biggest advantage

No. GSP on fight night is 190 pounds. According to what you're saying, his opponents weigh 170-175 pounds on fight night, which is false. GSP is one of the bigger WWs, but he's not the biggest and he's not as big as you're making it out to be. GSP is around the same size as Condit, Koscheck, Hardy, and Fitch. He's actually smaller than Thiago Alves and Jake Shields (dude packed a lot of muscle when he was @ MW in Strikeforce). GSP was bigger than Nick, Serra and Penn. The last two guys should've stayed at LW.

You thinking that GSP's biggest advantage is his size? Come on breh, it's clearly his wrestling. To say otherwise makes little sense.

 

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[FaTaL]

You thinking that GSP's biggest advantage is his size? Come on breh, it's clearly his wrestling. To say otherwise makes little sense.

i mean his last fight with penn was ridicules, gsp has many advantages which include his size difference as well as with his superior athletic ability


i really wanna know his cut technique, its a massive advantage

 

[The Infamous]

Post was pretty spot on, I'm not saying it wasn't fun or entertaining watching JDS mash up Hunt, but really compared to the last few cards they've put out, this one seemed water down.

We've all been watching Dana n Joe silva try to build up Glover as the future num1 contender after Gus, but come on, give the guy a real test already. its not like hes a youngin or sumthin, he has tonnes of experience already, lets give em a real test. At da very least, let em fight a gatekeeper like Bader, or put em in wit a wrestler like Phil davis to really test his take down defense. I dunno, I'm just really expecting more than a Te huna, to me that fight was pointless and just seemed like giving the guy a fight to boost his record and highlight real.

i know alot of you guys are huge Hunt fans, but his best days are behind him, he's up there in age and he's proven that he's a borderline gate keeper at HW. Yeah he's tough as nails, but he's never going to be a champ or fight for the belt, He hasn't beaten anybody who's matter in over 5 years. To put him in a fight against da previous champ really is a joke. I look at a guy like Frankie Edgar, who after losing gets another title shot, and then look at JDS after losing fighting a Mark Hunt, and its like come on UFC trying to hard to build back up JDS and give him an easy out. More and more UFC promotion is starting to feel like boxing, and not how the UFC use to be.

And even the TJ Grant fight, was nice for him to finally get a top 10 fight, but don't give him the title shot after 1 win in the top 10. Let him fight another top guy, then maybe title shot. Outside of Maynard, his last wins are guys like roller n prato, that shouldnt be a num1 contender. Would love to see Tj vs Thomson for num1 contender fight, put that on ufc on fox as 5 rnd main fight n then really let the free tv fans see 2 guys go at it, and then come in ring after, Bendo n announce title fight and hopefully the free fans now will pay to see the guy they just watched win, go against the champ.

Maybe its just after watching UFC n Pride in the golden yrs its hard to watch what MMA is starting to become now.

Watered down? Come on mayne. This card has been better than the last 3-4 PPV cards. If not better, on the same level. Which one of these cards was better than UFC 160?

For a late replacement [originally Bader], Te-Huna was a good option. Pretty much anyone I talked to was excited as hell for this fight. Also, going off memory, I'm pretty sure most of the LHWs at that time were booked for a fight or were just coming off a fight. Te-Huna is below gatekeeper status? Dude was 5-1 in the UFC with his only lose coming to Gus, he's above a gatekeeper.

Hunt was/is a top 10 HW in the world. I think it's pretty safe to say he's above a gatekeeper. 'Giving JDS an easy out' Wow, that was dumb. Stylistically, Hunt matches up really well with JDS, he was/is one of the tougher match-ups for JDS. In the HW division, I would favor Hunt's chances [against JDS] over Big Foot, Overeem, Mir and Big Nog [all of whom are top 10 HWs in the world].

So you want Bendo to sit out for an extended period of time [prolly till the end of the year] and wait for the winner Grant/Thomson? That makes little sense. What if one of them gets injured during or after the fight, then Bendo is going to have to sit out for even longer. If not Grant, who else is there for Bendo? The only other possible opponent is Thomson, who is 2-2 in his last 4 and is less deserving than Grant.

The talent in the UFC right now is better than it was before and what it was in Pride.

And of course, Cain vs Bigfoot, did we really need to see this fight again? Cain thoroughly and convincingly beat em da 1st time, so why oh why did we need to see this fight, or 30 secs again. Seemed more like it was a poor excuse to say this is HW belt ppv card. I can understand rematches when they make sense, god knows Edgar n bendo have had many close fights, but really why waste the fans time wit this rematch when I'm sure the Bendo vs Pettis 2 wldve been more entertaining that this crap.

I've already explained numerous times why Cain/Big Foot II was made. I'm guessing you really like your champions sitting out for 7-8 months. Damn, that makes so much sense

 

[The Infamous]

i mean his last fight with penn was ridicules, gsp has many advantages which include his size difference as well as with his superior athletic ability


i really wanna know his cut technique, its a massive advantage

So being bigger than Penn makes you a massive WW? Guess what, every fighter at WW is bigger than Penn. I guess WW is just filled with massive fighters.

Why are you exaggerating GSP's size?

 

[So UnThotful]

mark hunt fracture toe

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[Ralph Wiggum]

Watered down? Come on mayne. This card has been better than the last 3-4 PPV cards. If not better, on the same level. Which one of these cards was better than UFC 160?

For a late replacement [originally Bader], Te-Huna was a good option. Pretty much anyone I talked to was excited as hell for this fight. Also, going off memory, I'm pretty sure most of the LHWs at that time were booked for a fight or were just coming off a fight. Te-Huna is below gatekeeper status? Dude was 5-1 in the UFC with his only lose coming to Gus, he's above a gatekeeper.

Hunt was/is a top 10 HW in the world. I think it's pretty safe to say he's above a gatekeeper. 'Giving JDS an easy out' Wow, that was dumb. Stylistically, Hunt matches up really well with JDS, he was/is one of the tougher match-ups for JDS. In the HW division, I would favor Hunt's chances [against JDS] over Big Foot, Overeem, Mir and Big Nog [all of whom are top 10 HWs in the world].

So you want Bendo to sit out for an extended period of time [prolly till the end of the year] and wait for the winner Grant/Thomson? That makes little sense. What if one of them gets injured during or after the fight, then Bendo is going to have to sit out for even longer. If not Grant, who else is there for Bendo? The only other possible opponent is Thomson, who is 2-2 in his last 4 and is less deserving than Grant.

The talent in the UFC right now is better than it was before and what it was in Pride.



I've already explained numerous times why Cain/Big Foot II was made. I'm guessing you really like your champions sitting out for 7-8 months. Damn, that makes so much sense

Exactly, I don't know what's so hard to understand. Bigfoot was supposed to be a tune up fight before Overeem Vs. Cain, but Reem got knocked out in addition to everyone being busy so bigfoot took the title fight

 

[jackswstd]

mark hunt fracture toe

Spoiler

That Octagon mat has been bad for toes lately

 

[Screwface Exchange]

Exactly, I don't know what's so hard to understand. Bigfoot was supposed to be a tune up fight before Overeem Vs. Cain, but Reem got knocked out in addition to everyone being busy so bigfoot took the title fight

Missing the point, I fully understand why the fight was made, but it still doesn't change the fact that it was a rematch we really didnt need to see again. This fight was made to keep a HW active, n to help prop up a ppv card, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Screwface Exchange]

For a late replacement [originally Bader], Te-Huna was a good option. Pretty much anyone I talked to was excited as hell for this fight. Also, going off memory, I'm pretty sure most of the LHWs at that time were booked for a fight or were just coming off a fight. Te-Huna is below gatekeeper status? Dude was 5-1 in the UFC with his only lose coming to Gus, he's above a gatekeeper.

wow Te Huna is 5-1, who he beat? oh yeah Ryan Jimmo, beltran, Rosa, Romero and Pokrajac thats a real murderers row right there. Shoot dis dude cldnt even beat Lombard and he was fighting as a HW then. Sorry, I'm not hyped up to see a guy like Te Huna thrown into fights. Against higher ranked guys. You need to beat at least 1 top 10 guy or have a close decision loss to be gatekeeper status, and right now Te Huna doesnt fit that bill to me.

Hunt was/is a top 10 HW in the world. I think it's pretty safe to say he's above a gatekeeper. 'Giving JDS an easy out' Wow, that was dumb. Stylistically, Hunt matches up really well with JDS, he was/is one of the tougher match-ups for JDS. In the HW division, I would favor Hunt's chances [against JDS] over Big Foot, Overeem, Mir and Big Nog [all of whom are top 10 HWs in the world].

What has Hunt down since 2006 to make him above gatekeeper status? He's a hell of a guy, very entertaining to watch. But really, Struve is his biggest victory since 2006. And between 2006 to 2010 he didnt notch a single victory, he had 6 straight losses. Yes, some of them were to former champs, so he can only beat the low level guys, but gets decimated against top level talent that equals gatekeeper status for Hunt to me. Again, though not saying it wasn't an entertaining fight, watching a guy get da shyt knocked outta him for 3 rounds is very entertaining. But really did it didn't surprise any1, we all knew he was going to lose, but wished/hoped he would win. But Hunt has nt shown in the last 6 yrs to be able to win these kinds of fights. Maybe back in his Pride days, but not now.

So you want Bendo to sit out for an extended period of time [prolly till the end of the year] and wait for the winner Grant/Thomson? That makes little sense. What if one of them gets injured during or after the fight, then Bendo is going to have to sit out for even longer. If not Grant, who else is there for Bendo? The only other possible opponent is Thomson, who is 2-2 in his last 4 and is less deserving than Grant.

From a money and fight promoting stand point of course their gonna push their champ to fight as often as possible to collect dem dollars, but really, maybe Bendo shld take a break, fully heal up hit the gym n come back with sumthing new or improved added to his skillset so instead of all these close decisions he can finish a fight for once. Meanwhile the crowd will still be entertained by a TJ/Thomson fight.

The talent in the UFC right now is better than it was before and what it was in Pride.

I think the talent in the lower weight classes in the UFC is better than ever, and has been extremely entertaining, but the LHW and HW divisions, i feel have left me lacking the last 2 yrs. Between Bones fighting throw in's from MW not having to work their way up the LHW ladder cuz there isnt a solid ladder, and the HW division being top heavy and majority of the top 10 being ol skool guys who've been around for yrs and not adding nething new or refreshing. (nog, hunt, werdum, mir, reem). Add in, I'm getting tired of watching the same GSP fights over n over n they all almost exactly the same, nuthing new or exciting each time, but all of this is whats making me miss da old days of UFC n Pride and even WEC.

 

[puppetmaster]

So Ronda Rousey gets to coach against Tate and break her arm again now instead of Cat.






-P-

 

[Roman Brady]

So Ronda Rousey gets to coach against Tate and break her arm again now instead of Cat.






-P-

 

[Starburst]

So Ronda Rousey gets to coach against Tate and break her arm again now instead of Cat.






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This looks super suspect. I wonder if Cat was paid off. This is what Dana wanted all along. The drama between Ronda/Miesha will bring in the ratings and with any luck Miesha brings in CyGoat as a guest coach

 

[FaTaL]

So Ronda Rousey gets to coach against Tate and break her arm again now instead of Cat.






-P-

wow my interest has just disappeared for this tuf and fight

i mean why not bring in gina or cyborg, thats the only thing that could of saved this

tate got her azz kicked the last 2 times out

 

[Starburst]

wow my interest has just disappeared for this tuf and fight

i mean why not bring in gina or cyborg, thats the only thing that could of saved this

tate got her azz kicked the last 2 times out

If she loses against Liz in July does she still get to coach? I wonder if Sara Mcmann was offered the coaching gig?

This does not make sense because the fight with Ronda is in Dec, Her husband posted on the UG that she just got out of surgery, how does that jeapodize her appearance on TUF?